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Old 09-15-2010, 06:14 PM   #346
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My 2c ... less chance of flattening the battery priming the Facet pump & filling the bowls. (e.g. falling over a lot in sand)
You have to crank the motor for the vacuum pump to pump.
Might be unwarranted worry, but Im happy with the 40171. Moreover, I dont know anyone else that has had any problems with it either.
+1, I considered the vacuum but went with the 40171 for the same reason.
almost 30k km on the stocker with no issues. switched to the facet for over 10k kms now and it works flawlessly.
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Old 09-15-2010, 06:20 PM   #347
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When I installed my Facet 40171 ... It ran OK, but a bit rich. I installed a $30 Mr. Gasket fuel pressure regulator, set it to 1.5 psi ...

Apparently, my Facet is a bit of an overachiever.
I think 1.5psi is just right too, Stobie.
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Old 09-16-2010, 09:25 PM   #348
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I may have missed it, but I had not heard on the 40171 having "over pressure" issues. My only experience is with this pump on a bike is with my Super Moto which carries the pump higher (I think) than the Adventures. This might be a factor in that the SM would be MORE prone to over pressure or gravity feed overcoming the carb fuel valve---less vertical distance for the fuel to rise from the pump to the carb.

So maybe there are differnces in manufacturing tolerances between various 40171 Facet pumps????? Or something else at work here??

40171 on a SM for 15k miles, no regulator, never turn off petcocks--works great! Maybe I'm just lucky?
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Old 11-26-2010, 07:39 PM   #349
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Well, I just got done installing the Facet #40171 from Aircraft Spruce. THIS WAS FOR PREVENTATIVE maintenance only, using the Original one (added connectors) as a backup. Started right up....yeah!

Here is the install pic's:







I wanted to mount the pump with the tangs facing the bottom of the battery but it is TOO DEEP this way and keeps the Bash plate from closing, So had to rotate it 90 degrees and it now closes.

Thanks for ALL those who shared their experiences with this for it was extremely valuable.

Happy New Year to All.....
OK, I order a 40171 today with filter, and I was looking over installation ideas. {Preventive maintenance on a 26k miles bike.} I remembered this post from many months ago. I initially thought that it showed the pressure line running up the exhaust side of the bike. See the filter over there? But that line looks to be the cross-over line. I don't get it.

Anyone tried to run the gas pressure line going to the carbs by routing it up the exhaust side? Is the answer, "No, because only a dumb@~~ would run the pressure line by the hot exhaust"? It just seems it would be easier to run the pressure line out and up rather than circling it back. And, it might get the gas line coming out of the airbox off of the oil pressure sensor, which I invariably knock off just about every time I mess with the carbs.

Thoughts 'preciated.
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Old 11-26-2010, 08:13 PM   #350
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Here is the Left Side Fuel filter (Red Arrow) that was not too clear on the other picture that shown the Right Side one:



Hope this helps....
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Old 11-27-2010, 03:20 AM   #351
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Orange,

Here is the Left Side Fuel filter (Red Arrow) that was not too clear on the other picture that shown the Right Side one:



Hope this helps....
Well . . . I'm still perplexed. Does your bike have the pretty much stock configuration of tank feed to fuel pump and then up the left (non-exhaust) side of the bike?
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Old 11-27-2010, 07:38 AM   #352
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Orange,

Let me see if I can explain this...these pictures and hoses are confusing.

Mine is a Stock Configurations BUT with These Filters (2) each are installed between the Tank Feeds to the Facet Pump. This is to ensure all fuel is filtered before feeding the pump.

Then the Outlet Hose of the Facet Pump feeds the Other Hose that feeds the Carb's up through the frame.

Hope this clarifys and answered your question.
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Old 11-28-2010, 04:14 PM   #353
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I'm curious as to why folks are running 2 inline filters before the Facet? Is the one Facet filter not sufficient?
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Old 11-28-2010, 04:23 PM   #354
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I'm curious as to why folks are running 2 inline filters before the Facet ...
one from each tank im sure
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Old 11-28-2010, 06:56 PM   #355
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one from each tank im sure
Yeah but the facet is fed from the left tank. Only half of the fuel would be filtered twice.
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Old 11-28-2010, 07:52 PM   #356
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one from each tank im sure
The pump only has one inlet.
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Old 11-28-2010, 09:09 PM   #357
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I'm about to switch over from the earlier Facet (I forget the #).
Question: Hows the 40171 treating you ? Any flooding or hydro locking issues with the petcocks left open with this one ?

Pleased to report that I have had no problems after 18K miles.
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Old 11-29-2010, 08:14 AM   #358
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Question: Hows the 40171 treating you ? Any flooding or hydro locking issues with the petcocks left open with this one ?
I installed a 4071 to replace the stock pump. During the installation I turned the key on & off a number of times, without starting, to check the pump connections. When the time came to start the bike, the bike let out a horrible ratchet like sound. I pulled both spark plugs, hit the starter, and fuel came gushing out of the front cylinder. Evidently, the multiple bumping of the fuel pump flooded the carb which in turn hydro locked the engine.

I just didn't feel I could trust the 40171 so I did the solid state conversion to the stock pump and put it back on the bike. I'll keep the 40171 as a backup.

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Old 11-29-2010, 09:01 AM   #359
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Dave,

Sorry to hear about this unusual experience. Most likely a malfunctioning pump. Would not trust it even as a backup with these symptoms. Probably a Bad Check Valve.

If you got it from Spruce Aircraft, call them at 800-861-3192 and sure they will exchange it for you.
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Old 11-29-2010, 09:30 AM   #360
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I just didn't feel I could trust the 40171 ...
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The 40171 puts out Too Much Fuel Pressure IMHO reguardless of the checkvalve
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