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Old 04-03-2008, 09:06 AM   #46
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Very nice fabrication on the tanks
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Old 04-03-2008, 10:15 AM   #47
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After reading the 'dead fuel pump' thread a couple of weeks ago, I decided I better check my OEM fuel pump points. I have 17K on the bike and the points were badly deteriorated. Would have not wanted to take off on a trip with this situation.

I ordered the 40171 pump and filter from Aircraft Spruce (about 48 bux), obtained plumbing fittings & teflon paste from NAPA dealer (about 9 bux) and then installed the new pump yesterday. My installation looks similar to that of Pyndon and Krumpus. The only bugaboo was some difficulty of reassembling the batterybox and attachments. That took some time.

Anyway, when it was all installed and buttoned up, I turned the iginition on and heard the familiar "tick, tick, tick, tick" for a few seconds and then it stopped. Hit the starter and it fired right up. Took that as a positive sign and went out for a 150 mile ride. No fuel starvation issues under hard acceleration, etc. Everything went according to Hoyle, so I am a happy KTM rider.
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Old 04-03-2008, 10:19 AM   #48
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Well, by now I guess it's prudent to conclude the Facet is a sound and reliable fuel pump replacement and we can put that one to bed.

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Old 04-05-2008, 01:33 PM   #49
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I just finished installing my new Facet this afternoon!

I was able to complete the swap in under three hours, and just took the 950 out for a short test drive.

So far, everything is running perfect and I'm ready for some sun and warm weather.
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Old 04-05-2008, 01:55 PM   #50
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Well, by now I guess it's prudent to conclude the Facet is a sound and reliable fuel pump replacement and we can put that one to bed.

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Somebody find a permanent solution to the water pump issue
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Old 04-09-2008, 01:27 PM   #51
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I got my 40171 & filter in the mail yesterday. I will do the install sometime soon & report back. Based on all the positive feedback I don't foresee any problems.
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Old 04-09-2008, 02:43 PM   #52
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I ordered a 40105 Facet and the 479735 Facet F/P filter last year and it's been sitting in the box it shipped in. Will this fuel filter work with the 40171 or do I need to order another filter?
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Old 04-09-2008, 07:36 PM   #53
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I ordered a 40105 Facet and the 479735 Facet F/P filter last year and it's been sitting in the box it shipped in. Will this fuel filter work with the 40171 or do I need to order another filter?
It's the same filter, so it should work..
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Old 04-09-2008, 09:12 PM   #54
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I have installed the #40105 with a filter and a check valve.

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I ordered a 40105 Facet and the 479735 Facet F/P filter last year and it's been sitting in the box it shipped in. Will this fuel filter work with the 40171 or do I need to order another filter?
No need to put the 40105 aside. You could use it with a check valve. You just have to fiddle with the check valve in order to seal properly and to work as a pressure regulator. I am running with it for 15k kms now and all is well.
The check valve is obstructing the flow so prevents carb flooding overnight and reduces higher than stock pressure. Some fellows in here (dockingplot) have been using #40105 without the pressure regulating check valve for a year or so without side effects but they overnight turn off the petcocks.

I have a question for all believers in this fuel filter: How can you guys check if it has collected residue? or are you going to replace it preventatively?
The way it is fixed on the metal tubing is excellent but the fact it is not transparent is a problem IMHO.

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Old 06-19-2008, 08:08 AM   #55
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I didn't want to mess with closing my fuel tap when I park it mostly b/c I'll probably forget when I'm on the road and be stranded.

I ordered the 40171 and over the past couple of weeks, gathered the necessary hose and brass fittings. Lowes and Home Depot doesn't carry them. Go to NAPA Auto Parts for these to save yourself some grief.

I haven't taken it out for a ride yet but it starts and runs for at least 15 mins .

Anyone need a 40105?
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:14 AM   #56
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Bobby, yup thats the one. You will not have to turn the petcocok off with the #71 model. I have around 4k miles on mine already with no trouble what-so-ever.


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I have since switched to the #171
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Old 06-19-2008, 09:47 AM   #57
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I don't turn my fuel petcok off either.

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I didn't want to mess with closing my fuel tap when I park it mostly b/c I'll probably forget when I'm on the road and be stranded.
I have a check valve installed for this very reason. No flooding and no problems up to now, running the #40105 being overpowered in line with a check valve. Cheers.
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Old 06-19-2008, 07:59 PM   #58
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Are you sure??

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My pump shuts off when pressure is reached.
Are you just hearing it shut down on the timer? When the bike is running and the oil pressure switch overides the timer - how could you hear it???? I have had a meter on the 40105 pump and it's drawing current all the time.

Note I'm not bad mouthing the facet just an observation.
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Old 06-25-2008, 11:23 AM   #59
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Has anyone found a second source for the 40171 besides Aircraft Spruce? They are back ordered until July 23. :(
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Old 06-25-2008, 11:45 AM   #60
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Has anyone found a second source for the 40171 besides Aircraft Spruce? They are back ordered until July 23. :(
I still have a new 40105 if you're in a pinch.
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