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Old 05-25-2010, 09:16 PM   #14281
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Old 05-25-2010, 11:11 PM   #14282
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we'll try, cant garuntee a?nything. johngil, how long of a ride?
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Old 05-26-2010, 06:54 AM   #14283
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I just heard on news that a lot of the Angeles forest is open, including Rincon shortcut. But upper Big T is closed.
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Old 05-26-2010, 09:41 AM   #14284
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we'll try, cant garuntee a?nything. johngil, how long of a ride?
If I tell my wife it's only a day trip, then I guess I'd need to be back by 11:59 or so.

I'll have to see what Spafxer has in mind. I would think at least a couple of hundred (s)miles.
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Old 05-26-2010, 10:55 AM   #14285
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I just heard on news that a lot of the Angeles forest is open, including Rincon shortcut. But upper Big T is closed.

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Old 05-26-2010, 11:02 AM   #14286
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Old 05-26-2010, 12:18 PM   #14287
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I just heard on news that a lot of the Angeles forest is open, including Rincon shortcut. But upper Big T is closed.
Anyone got a GPS of the Rincon route of which you speak?

I heard the news this morning too, that said, yesterday I got this info from the Trails Assoc...
HERE (linky)

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Attached is a copy of the final Station Fire Closure Order which becomes effective Wednesday, May 26th.
Howard S. Okamoto
Recreation Officer
R5, Angeles NF, Los Angeles River RD
12371 North Little Tujunga Canyon Road
San Fernando, CA 91342
818-899-1900 ext 229
hokamoto@fs.fed.us
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Order No. 01-10-02
AREA CLOSURE
ANGELES NATIONAL FOREST
Pursuant to 16 USC 551 and 36 CFR 261.50(a) and (b), and to protect natural resources and provide for public safety, the following acts are prohibited within the Station Fire Recovery Area of the Angeles National Forest. This Order is effective from May 26, 2010, through December 30, 2010.
1. Going into or being upon National Forest System lands within the Station Fire Recovery Area, which is described in Exhibit A and shown on Exhibit B. 36 CFR 261.53(e).
2. Being on any National Forest System road within the Station Fire Recovery Area, which is described in Exhibit A and shown on Exhibit B. 36 CFR 261.54(e).
3. Being on any National Forest System trail within the Station Fire Recovery Area, which is described in Exhibit A and shown on Exhibit B. 36 CFR 261.55(a).
Pursuant to 36 CFR 261.50(e), the following persons are exempt from this Order:
1. Persons with a permit from the Forest Service specifically authorizing the otherwise prohibited act or omission.
2. Owners or lessees of private land within the Station Fire Recovery Area are exempt from the prohibitions listed above to the extent necessary to gain access to their land.
3. Persons who reside on private land within the Station Fire Recovery Area are exempt from the prohibitions listed above to the extent necessary to gain access to their residences.
4. Persons with a special use permit or contract from the Forest Service authorizing work within the Station Fire Recovery Area and their employees, sub-contractors, or agents are exempt from the prohibitions listed above to the extent authorized by the special use permit or contract.
5. Any Federal, State, or local officer, or member of an organized rescue or fire fighting force in the performance of an official duty.

These prohibitions are in addition to the general prohibitions contained in 36 CFR Part 261, Subpart A.
Done at Arcadia, California, this 24th day of May, 2010.

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JODY NOIRON
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Angeles National Forest

A violation of these prohibitions is punishable by a fine of not more than $5,000 for an individual or $10,000 for an organization, or imprisonment for not more than six months, or both.
16 USC 551 and 18 USC 3559, 3571, and 3581.
There's a PDF map included, not legable though...prolly available online.
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Old 05-26-2010, 12:25 PM   #14288
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after reading all this I'm still at ????? I don't understand fed language?
is it open or not?
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Old 05-26-2010, 12:36 PM   #14289
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after reading all this I'm still at ????? I don't understand fed language?
is it open or not?
I am from the govt, I am here to help. Here is your answer;
Pursuant to 36 CFR 261.50(e), the following persons are exempt from this Order:
1. Persons with a permit from the Forest Service specifically authorizing the otherwise prohibited act or omission. Do you have a Forest Service Permit? If you don't know what this is the anser is no.
2. Owners or lessees of private land within the Station Fire Recovery Area are exempt from the prohibitions listed above to the extent necessary to gain access to their land. Do you own or lease land within the Staion Fire Area? If not then the answer is no.
3. Persons who reside on private land within the Station Fire Recovery Area are exempt from the prohibitions listed above to the extent necessary to gain access to their residences. Do you rent land that is within the Station Fire area? If not the answer is no.
4. Persons with a special use permit or contract from the Forest Service authorizing work within the Station Fire Recovery Area and their employees, sub-contractors, or agents are exempt from the prohibitions listed above to the extent authorized by the special use permit or contract. Do you have a contract with the Forest Service requiring you to be in the area. If not the answer is no.
5. Any Federal, State, or local officer, or member of an organized rescue or fire fighting force in the performance of an official duty. Are you a Federal, State, or local officer, or member of an organized rescue or fire fighting force in the performance of an official duty. If not the answer is no.

Now wasn't that simple.

You would know if you were allowed to be in the fire area.
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Old 05-26-2010, 12:45 PM   #14290
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I think our confusion comes from what I was hearing on the radio, that some areas were open, but that paved roads(Big T, upper Big T, Little T) that had been open were closed

Couldn't tell if that was misreported, misunderstood or what?????
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Old 05-26-2010, 01:08 PM   #14291
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Chilao, Buckhorn and Horse Fats opened today. So, 3N17 is open from Mill Creek to at least Horse Flats......says the rangers today.
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Old 05-26-2010, 01:14 PM   #14292
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I think our confusion comes from what I was hearing on the radio, that some areas were open, but that paved roads(Big T, upper Big T, Little T) that had been open were closed

Couldn't tell if that was misreported, misunderstood or what?????
I think maybe they where talking about some slight open parts like Littlerock Damn and a few others is all.
Here, this is the actual boundries...try and pump this one into a GPS...
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ORDER NO. 01-10-02
Angeles National Forest
Station Fire Recovery Area
Exhibit A
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Old 05-26-2010, 01:26 PM   #14293
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Chilao, Buckhorn and Horse Fats opened today. So, 3N17 is open from Mill Creek to at least Horse Flats......says the rangers today.
wahoo! back in biznizzz...!
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Old 05-26-2010, 01:36 PM   #14294
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wahoo!
What side is Mill Creek on?

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Chilao, Buckhorn and Horse Fats opened today. So, 3N17 is open from Mill Creek to at least Horse Flats......says the rangers today.

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