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Old 07-13-2013, 07:54 AM   #24256
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IMO the secret to riding sand is to go fast/gas it. When you go fast you stay on top of the sand and have some control...when you let off or hit the brakes you get down into the sand and all bets are off. Sounds a little scary at first but when in doubt, GAS IT!
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Old 07-13-2013, 10:07 AM   #24257
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I have not yet set up a RR here on the forum for my run to the circle as internet is a bit doggy for the type of photo quality I want to post. If interested you can see a general RR over at my blog. SiegWelt as I'm only traveling with a cell phone it's easier to to keep it short when I find wifi at gas stations along the way.

And for those who are bitching about gas prices imagine what you hear coming from my mouth when I pump in 38 dollars a tank at fill up. Ouch!! I find the pain goes away using a debit card to pay for gas as it's not real till I check my account balance. I'll save that for when I get home.

Weather is great here sunny running mid 70's perfect riding weather. We are taking a R&R day in Stockholm before heading up 1000km to a town called Jokkmokk for the Arctic Circle photo in the morning.

It amazing the back roads they have here, (think WRC racing type of roads you see on Speed) I just turn off my GPS interstate and highway mode and it runs us all over the back country.

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Old 07-13-2013, 10:12 AM   #24258
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IMO the secret to riding sand is to go fast/gas it. When you go fast you stay on top of the sand and have some control...when you let off or hit the brakes you get down into the sand and all bets are off. Sounds a little scary at first but when in doubt, GAS IT!
Standing up will help even out the weight on the tires as well, when able of course given the low trees on the Rez. Agree when in doubt punch that bitch full throttle.

I'm just saying...

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Old 07-13-2013, 11:25 AM   #24259
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Hey gang,

I have been riding the reservation off 85 and a little bit of moisture with some puddles. Dust has been down, but has been hot. Anyways, my brother is in from OK city on leave and brought his ktm 350.... We've been riding, but thinking of traveling a bit tomorrow. Any suggestions? I saw the river by the Bronx and look like it is overflowing quite a bit. I was thinking of off 20 east of Blue Water Bay or going to Blackwater. Anyone have reports on those areas or suggestions?

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Old 07-13-2013, 12:00 PM   #24260
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and it never hurts to have a huge pizza in your ruck in case you need to stop and fill up. and don't forget a vcr a battery backup, a laser range finder and oh course a kitchen sink.
thus the name "ruckedup"
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Standing up will help even out the weight on the tires as well, when able of course given the low trees on the Rez. Agree when in doubt punch that bitch full throttle.

I'm just saying...

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Old 07-13-2013, 02:54 PM   #24261
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and it never hurts to have a huge pizza in your ruck in case you need to stop and fill up. and don't forget a vcr a battery backup, a laser range finder and oh course a kitchen sink.
thus the name "ruckedup"
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You forgot two sigg bottles of gas and snake bite kit and gator repellent
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Old 07-13-2013, 02:56 PM   #24262
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Old 07-13-2013, 04:26 PM   #24263
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IMO the secret to riding sand is to go fast/gas it. When you go fast you stay on top of the sand and have some control...when you let off or hit the brakes you get down into the sand and all bets are off. Sounds a little scary at first but when in doubt, GAS IT!
the secret to sand is balance. you only need to go fast enough to keep your balance . size of the bike doesn't matter either.. just my opinion .
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Old 07-13-2013, 05:42 PM   #24264
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the secret to sand is balance. you only need to go fast enough to keep your balance . size of the bike doesn't matter either.. just my opinion .
BZ and all of you guys are correct, but let me try and clarify.

Its not SPEED but ACCELERATION that matters. Eglin is nothing but big sand washes. Many of them I stop and make sure the pack is together and THEN accelerate through super deep sand starting from 0. Acceleration is the answer not SPEED. If you see a super sand area coming and get your speed up to 90 MPH it aint shit if you have to back off the throttle which throws the weight forward, forks compress and little Johnny get thrown on his head....

When you see the sand remember- slowly accelerate and let the bike go where it wants too ... get your ass off the seat and let the bike dance...the balance thing... and our lord god and savior of all dirt bikes "Momentum" will see you through.

BTW - Blackwater is saturated. I was out there this morning and it was flooded in most areas. You gotta go North to get dry (meaning not underwater) ground.
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Old 07-13-2013, 06:15 PM   #24265
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BTW - Blackwater is saturated. I was out there this morning and it was flooded in most areas. You gotta go North to get dry (meaning not underwater) ground.
So I am guessing with all the rain today it will be pretty cool in the morning. I just got back from a pedal/paddle boat ride and am not even sweating.

I'm not interested in fording any 6' deep creeks--is there a ride plan for tomorrow? Otherwise, I think I'm gonna hit Brox/Powerstation/ATV trail which is always do-able.
Plus I haven't ridden in months, so I gotta get back in the game...
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Old 07-13-2013, 06:27 PM   #24266
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the secret to sand is balance. you only need to go fast enough to keep your balance . size of the bike doesn't matter either.. just my opinion .
I'm with BZ in regard to the size of the bike; if you are under 160-170 pounds, you can pretty much get by with anything if the tires are decent. I could haul ass on a 200--in fact, it was a lot less weight to throw around--I may even go back to a [KTM] 200.

Some of the heavier guys (I'm a lightweight) might need a little more ooomph, but I find that if I am not standing, sliding back on the seat to load the drive wheel and lighten the front (similar effect to WFO) will work fine for me in any sand conditions, but for turns I will move forward to work the balance/slide thing.
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Old 07-13-2013, 06:40 PM   #24267
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I'm with BZ in regard to the size of the bike; if you are under 160-170 pounds, you can pretty much get by with anything if the tires are decent. I could haul ass on a 200--in fact, it was a lot less weight to throw around--I may even go back to a [KTM] 200.

Some of the heavier guys (I'm a lightweight) might need a little more ooomph, but I find that if I am not standing, sliding back on the seat to load the drive wheel and lighten the front (similar effect to WFO) will work fine for me in any sand conditions, but for turns I will move forward to work the balance/slide thing.
For those who may not know - Skid started with another Avatar (see Jag) but was such an awesome "skidder - slider - drifter" that the name stuck. Ive seen this "lightweight" sling around a Suzi650 as well as his Ktoom 200.

I'm out for tomorrow but glad to see you are ready to ride...
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Old 07-14-2013, 09:56 AM   #24268
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This looks like a place to find some cool gear and it's local. Can't wait to see what they have for adventure riding etc. Thought ya'll might like to check this one out too!

http://www.gssgear.com/
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Old 07-14-2013, 10:49 AM   #24269
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Can someone lead me to the website to get the base pass? Is it open on Saturday or Sunday?

Also can find a local to ride with for a leader in early Aug. With sun pounding down! Lol

I'll treat for meal for the tour service! :) trust me it won't be at Micky D's :)

Being a restaurant owner and self taught chef for 17 years with back ground in BBQ/Spain/Italian I love the local seen and people living the dream in the food world!

Just PM me I hate telling the world I'm going to begone from my house please come rob my 2 tv's that's all I got that's worth a crap and my cycle is with me me so your screwed! Lol!
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Old 07-14-2013, 10:55 AM   #24270
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If you investigate further, you will discover that the pass can be obtained through the mail. They are open till noon-30 on saturdays, closed sundays. Their phon number is on the link provided above.
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