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Old 08-21-2013, 08:42 AM   #24856
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That's why you should leave the camera on at all times and then spend hours deleting the boring stuff... I really am sorry I missed taping the whole incident.. if you remember I wasn't being to polite with my language...

Just got shims from very nice Harley dealer and starting to put it all back together now.... what fun.


How about "Das Boot Driver"
Did you take a peek at your fuel pump/fuel filter too? I had a street bike that would not run right until I pulled the fuel filter and found a ton of garbage in it. Not sure if any water got through your tank or not...

BTW, if you want to find out if your injector is clear, pull the injector out, rig up a connector for positive terminal and connector for negative terminal, each with their own separate wire, then connect to a small battery charge and put onto "12V - Manual" and it will come to life. Run it for a few seconds at time. If any junk is in there, you will see it spray out onto the ground.
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Old 08-21-2013, 04:38 PM   #24857
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Laugh Lotsa cool riding coming up!

I'ma thinking/researching about a different way to modify the Cheaha event this year. Wanting to head northeast out of the campground and get on the Trans Eastern Trail towards Elijay Georgia and back.
Melvin and Brad are on board and may have room for another rider or two if they have the right attitude to go-go-go.
We'll see what can happen if this thing doesn't hurt me....



Getting excited about Barbers Vintage Days and it'll be here before we know it:
http://www.barbervintagefestival.org/

Turkey Trot isn't far behind and I'll be seeing Aunt Bonnie and her grandson Ed at the family reunion this Saturday and will ask about us using their property for our staging area.
I'll let yawwl know.
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Old 08-21-2013, 05:50 PM   #24858
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I'll be seeing Aunt Bonnie and her grandson Ed at the family reunion this Saturday.

Don't forget to say hi to Mike for me!!!!!!
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:16 PM   #24859
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What happened to me is nothing like the normal drowning like OC had that day at Spec. Mine was completely under water for 10 to 15 minutes ...

It aint fixed yet but still working on it today. I took off "throttle body" - new name for carburetor - and glad I did... really bad inside with think layer of clay/sand/crap...took injector apart and it looks clear but what do I know.

Next is valves. Valve cover off and all valves are on tight side of tolerances. I am gonna loosen them up this morning and then put it all back together and see what happens. Waiting on oil filter (I just changed oil and installed new filter the day before it went under).

Oil got clear after 4th oil change...

More to come and wish me luck...
Correct me if im wrong, but wouldnt sand in the throttle body mean its also inside the cylinder? I would think running it would score the walls and destroy the rings.. Are you referring to sand and clay all over it and such, or in the throat past where the air cleaner is supposed to filter out all the crap?
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Old 08-22-2013, 04:36 AM   #24860
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Correct me if im wrong, but wouldnt sand in the throttle body mean its also inside the cylinder? I would think running it would score the walls and destroy the rings.. Are you referring to sand and clay all over it and such, or in the throat past where the air cleaner is supposed to filter out all the crap?
You are correct and that is my fear at the moment. I seem to have gas from the ejector (hooked up to tank and turned on so I saw gas spray into the throttle body). I have spark at the plug. Timing hasn't changed. It turns over way to easy. I suspect I have no or not enough compression. Could be total ruined top end BUT I have had this happen before and Im hoping some trash is holding open one of the intake valves.

I'm going to finish reinstall everything today and pull the sucker with the truck and see if that clears the head. If not I guess I take it down all the way and inspect cylinder.

This reminds me of old racing days .... ruin the bike on Sunday and rebuild Monday through Friday...

Thanks for all the concerns folks.
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Old 08-22-2013, 04:46 AM   #24861
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This reminds me of old racing days .... ruin the bike on Sunday and rebuild Monday through Friday...

Thanks for all the concerns folks.
Best wish's from me to you Vic.
Better riding weather is fast approaching!

That last comment you made me remember my brand new 1972 Rickman 6 Day with 125cc Zundapp engine.
Ride it maybe 1 day and work on it for 6.
I will accept some blame cause I WAS rough on machinery.

I can relate.
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Old 08-22-2013, 06:05 AM   #24862
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You are correct and that is my fear at the moment. I seem to have gas from the ejector (hooked up to tank and turned on so I saw gas spray into the throttle body). I have spark at the plug. Timing hasn't changed. It turns over way to easy. I suspect I have no or not enough compression. Could be total ruined top end BUT I have had this happen before and Im hoping some trash is holding open one of the intake valves.

I'm going to finish reinstall everything today and pull the sucker with the truck and see if that clears the head. If not I guess I take it down all the way and inspect cylinder.

This reminds me of old racing days .... ruin the bike on Sunday and rebuild Monday through Friday...

Thanks for all the concerns folks.


Hope it works out for you..
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Old 08-22-2013, 11:02 AM   #24863
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You are correct and that is my fear at the moment. I seem to have gas from the ejector (hooked up to tank and turned on so I saw gas spray into the throttle body). I have spark at the plug. Timing hasn't changed. It turns over way to easy. I suspect I have no or not enough compression. Could be total ruined top end BUT I have had this happen before and Im hoping some trash is holding open one of the intake valves.

I'm going to finish reinstall everything today and pull the sucker with the truck and see if that clears the head. If not I guess I take it down all the way and inspect cylinder.

This reminds me of old racing days .... ruin the bike on Sunday and rebuild Monday through Friday...

Thanks for all the concerns folks.
Well, a new top end would be the least of my worries. That's an easy fix. My main concern would be the crank bearings. Guess the only way to know will be once you get it running and up to temp with high RPM's. I feel for ya, Vico. If it IS the top end, given what happened, I would go ahead and split the cases for a rebuild.
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Old 08-22-2013, 11:21 AM   #24864
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Sorry VIC!

That sucks bro I have drowned a few dirt bikes in my day but not for that long of time. When will you be able to ride again? Hopefully by Veterans Day weekend? Speaking of that are there any rides planned soon. I still haven't been out to Eglin range yet but have the pass and a GPS.
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Old 08-22-2013, 12:31 PM   #24865
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You are correct and that is my fear at the moment. I seem to have gas from the ejector (hooked up to tank and turned on so I saw gas spray into the throttle body). I have spark at the plug. Timing hasn't changed. It turns over way to easy. I suspect I have no or not enough compression. Could be total ruined top end BUT I have had this happen before and Im hoping some trash is holding open one of the intake valves.

I'm going to finish reinstall everything today and pull the sucker with the truck and see if that clears the head. If not I guess I take it down all the way and inspect cylinder.

This reminds me of old racing days .... ruin the bike on Sunday and rebuild Monday through Friday...

Thanks for all the concerns folks.
Vic, Sorry to hear about your scooter being under the weather! Hopefully you can find the problem soon. At least it's not during prime riding season; which is around the corner. Let me know if I can help?
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Old 08-22-2013, 04:17 PM   #24866
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Thanks again guys for the concern.

Latest update. Phil came by and we pulled it behind truck. Scary. It finally started and ran for awhile and then I turned it of and it restarted. Yea. I was relieved.

Will not start now. Same thing. I worked on it some more and Phil will help me pull it tomorrow one more time. If that doesn't work I just tear it down.

At least I am part of the learning curve for the new 500.
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Old 08-22-2013, 04:36 PM   #24867
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my brand new 1972 Rickman 6 Day with 125cc Zundapp engine.


Mad, my buddy Mitch Lowery had one of those new......u know him? You remember Boneshaker?
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Old 08-22-2013, 06:38 PM   #24868
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:28 PM   #24869
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Thanks again guys for the concern.

Latest update. Phil came by and we pulled it behind truck. Scary. It finally started and ran for awhile and then I turned it of and it restarted. Yea. I was relieved.

Will not start now. Same thing. I worked on it some more and Phil will help me pull it tomorrow one more time. If that doesn't work I just tear it down.
Crossin my fingers for ya Maestro!
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Old 08-23-2013, 12:10 AM   #24870
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Absolutely!
Bone shaker, Strawberry Hill , Sanders Beach, Indian Mound, Sun City ,,,,,on and on man!
Michel was one of the Kings of the Brentwood Junior High claypit along with Jimmy Fitzgerald.
Mitchels Rickman was a 73 (red) and my 72 was blue.
Fenders and side panels were Fiberglas with the toughness of a gram cracker.
Grabbed this image off the interwebs:
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Mine looked that good or better.

Piston port engine before the days of reed valve and my Rickman had 2 and sometimes 3 neutrals.

We bought them from Cycle Rip-off (World) where Sandy Sansing BMW is now from sales manager Bill Armstrong. Brand new, mine set me back $825 tax, tag dealer prep and Full Bore tires.
What a piece of crap that motorcycle was.
Thanks for reminding me.

Good times in that claypit with Mitch, Jimmy and Fernando with his brother Herashio (spelling) .
Madhouse my first race on my '74 Elsinore CR125 was against Mitch & Jimmy at a track in Geneva, AL. I got 4th & was proud. I bought the Honda from Spotswood Honda in Mobile Al. about a week or so b4 that race. Paid $725 for it. I've got some pix I'll try to post of that race. Great memories, and fun times.
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