|03-20-2008, 07:55 PM||#1|
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Tourmaster Synergy wiring question
I got my net Synergy Jacket liner, but the wiring harness (The part that connects to the battery from the bike) was missing. I called up the vendor that sold me the jacket, and they said they would send one out to me. I've been waiting for it to arrive.
Looking at the jacket, I'm not sure I like the connector Tourmaster has chosen to use, and I'm debating switching it over to an SAE plug like the one I've been using for years on my old vest. The problem is I have no idea which wire comming out of the connector is +, and wich one is -. I do not want to reverse the polarity for fear of damaging the controller.
Can sombody tell me looking at the conector on the Jacket whether + is the Female (Inside), or the Male (Outside).
|03-20-2008, 07:58 PM||#2|
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|03-07-2009, 11:06 PM||#3|
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For the vest there is one red power plug and one black pants socket and a controller. The center pins are tied together and is + (positive). The outer pins are not tied together though. The red outer shell is (-) however. The black plug is wired on parallel with the vest heater element, so the outer shell is not tied to ground.
More details and ideas:
I ordered the Tour Master SAE to Coax adapter, and when I received it, realized it was not going to work. It is a SAE to coax plug, not SAE to coax jack. I thought I might be able to use it still and connect to the black plug, thinking it might be in parallel with the red power plug. Not so. Plus the polarity of the SAE plug would be reversed. This might cause bad things to happen i the controller.
Eastern Beaver has a proper SAE to coax jack connector to extend bike power to the jacket in the right polarity. It is very short. They do have 2 and 3 foot SAE extension cables with waterproof cap. I ordered both tonight.
The black socket connector is used to connect to pants and is wired in parallel with the vest heater. The + is common to the controller and both red and black connector center pins. The (- side) of the heaters (Pants and vest) are tied together inside the vest and go to the controller and to the black connector outer shell so that both the vest and pants heater elements (2.6 ohms each) are in parallel, both controlled by the single vest controller.
The controller is a pulse type and periodically connects the heater(s) minus side (-) to power ground (only available on the red plug outer shell) to allow current to flow and produce heat. The controller changes the length of time of each pulse to produce more or less heat.
I went through this carefully to answer a question of my own. Can you connect power directly to the black plug at all?
2 possible answers:
1. No, if you use supplied vest standard controller. The only way to supply ground properly is via the red plug. The black outer shell is the heater minus side, not ground. The controller completes the path to ground.
2. Yes, if you use an inline controller and disconnect the vest standard controller (no jumpering required). This is because the pants plug is directly in parallel with the heater elements.
Answer #2 is a revelation of sorts to those wanting to use inline controllers (existing heatrollers) and are cutting standard dead controller wires and jumpering. It may be less work to just disconnect the controller, stuff the cable into the vest, and create a cable extension with a red plug to red plug. In my case it is easier, I use the battery tender SAE plug for power so have an SAE to Coax adapter. The stock Synergy SAE to coax plug adapter will reverse the polarity, but the vest heater does not care and is fully insulated (not grounded).
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