Setting up a Rallye bike

[SteveRed]

Hi guys, I would like some advice on setting up my 650X as a rallye bike. How far do i need to go? What navigation equipent do i need and why? I know i will need a road book/map roller but what about gps repeaters etc? Sorry, I'm a n00b at this so even if you take the piss, your advice is welcome. Happy to buy someone dinner and beer in Sydney to have a chance to pick their brains..

[atgreg]

Originally Posted by SteveRed

Hi guys, I would like some advice on setting up my 650X as a rallye bike. How far do i need to go? What navigation equipent do i need and why? I know i will need a road book/map roller but what about gps repeaters etc? Sorry, I'm a n00b at this so even if you take the piss, your advice is welcome. Happy to buy someone dinner and beer in Sydney to have a chance to pick their brains..

for what event ???

[atgreg]

if its for the safari, search the Safari / Condo 750 threads in oz, lots of setup info there. No GPS's allowed in the Oz safari.
you should have come out to Condo to suss it all out !!

[Seth S]

Originally Posted by SteveRed

Hi guys, I would like some advice on setting up my 650X as a rallye bike. How far do i need to go? What navigation equipent do i need and why? I know i will need a road book/map roller but what about gps repeaters etc? Sorry, I'm a n00b at this so even if you take the piss, your advice is welcome. Happy to buy someone dinner and beer in Sydney to have a chance to pick their brains..

I have thought long and hard about running an endurance event in the future and I hope to do one in 2009. That being said everyone seems to think of the factory rally bikes when they thing rally. If your goal is to finish and have fun and not so much to win then I think you can build a good bike without going too crazy. The biggest things you will need to consider will be fuel range, suspension, and reinforcements. You will want a comfortable seat and a good fit as you will be spending long hours in the saddle.

At a minimum for navigation you will need a road book holder, a good clock, and a couple odometers.

I would make sure your lights are good but dont use excessive power...in case you end up in the dark. Reinforce the frame and subframe, make sure your wheels are up to snuff etc etc.

Also do a search for rally and I think you will find a lot of questions and answers (many by me :)...questions that is). I would also make sure you have a good understanding of how your bike works and what it takes to tear it apart and fix it. You dont want to have something simple break in the middle of no where that you could have easily fixed had you taken the time to learn before hand.

[SteveRed]

Ye I know I should've been at Condo.. Probably worried I'd run into my ex-wife who's family run sheep and wheat out there That and I still have kids who believe in the Easter Bunny!

It was really the photo's of the Condo and OZ Safari etc that have me intrigued. I want to ride the Wild Boar Imperative this year and even though it is a non competative event, I thought it might be a good introduction to rallye style events.

Anyway i see the pics but still would like info on what is and isn't allowed and why etc. Even reading the TT catalouge confuses me

... and a couple odometers.

I note that my OEM odo is out by at least 9-10% So I assume that all distances are GPS based? Apart from trying to adjust your stock odo do these aftermarket odo's run from GPS?

[atgreg]

OK,

basically you need an acurate calibrateable odo and a map roller, depending on you budget you can have;

A tupperware container with dowels for rollers and the standard speedo or a pushbike speedo





Something a bit more techo;

A manual route roller and a ICO rally odo



An electric roller and an ICO

[atgreg]

See this thread

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=211747

[SafariBerg]

Based on what I have seen and heard go for a MD Roadbook roller and a ICO rally odo like this (if you want the electric gear)




and avoid the Touratech gear like the stuff below. It's not as reliable and is more fiddly to use.

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[SteveRed]

Thanks guys for the imput... Where can I get the MD Roadbook? Or the ICO stuff? If you do a google search you get sweet FA!!

[Seth S]

I bought the touratech roadbook holder for my 950 because I was able to get it for $280 USD. For those of you outside the USA now is a good time to buy stuff from us because our dollar is quite weak. You can get a good deal from Munn Racing. The Touratech unit is not as nice as the MD but it still works quite well. The newer units have all metal gears and so far mine has had no problems.

[PPiA]

http://www.icoracing.com/index.htm

[SafariBerg]

Originally Posted by SteveRed

Thanks guys for the imput... Where can I get the MD Roadbook? Or the ICO stuff? If you do a google search you get sweet FA!!

In Australia the only place to get it is from Vince Strang @ Vince Strang Motorcycles Inverell NSW 02 6721 0610 or vsmsafaris@bigpond.com

Vince is good and has been associated with the Safari since the year dot.

[ChrisCrossed]

For a once a year noobie effort like 2 days at Condo my priority would be the ICO first, electric roadbook second. I found the Acerbis manual RB ($200) quite OK if fettled correctly - except for winding in long roadbooks manually at the start of the day. 40 pages of twisting gets a little tedious.... They are a work in progress out of the box with mine having tight rollers and top cover.

The tripmeters are just a flasher verion of a pushbike one, using a magnet on the front wheel and calibrated by changing the input wheel circumference. No GPS or anything complicated. Being able to rewind and advance the displayed distance is the key because you WILL get lost/overshoot and when you find yourself again you can reset the distance to match the landmark on the roadbook.

The MD would be nice but the cost is significant for a once a year thing.

Stick with Vince - his prices are around OS prices and I doubt he makes anything much from the deal, and carries spares etc.

[lastplace]

For anyone in N. America, we have MD Roadbooks, ICO Rally VR Light units, and Acerbis manual roadbooks. See http://www.rallymanagementservices.com/products.html

fun fun
Charlie

[Mudguts]

[quote

The MD would be nice but the cost is significant for a once a year thing.

Stick with Vince - his prices are around OS prices and I doubt he makes anything much from the deal, and carries spares etc.[/quote]

I find the road book excellent to use every day , I have cut up and old street directory to A5 and loaded in the map reader ( old school in car \ bike sat nav ) Now I'm getting more copys of all my other maps and cutting them into A5 strips taping them together and loading ,

BANG 'O" ( old school toppo sat nav ( with out the sattlelite part )

So i think there worth the coin , And if you on real long trip load them up with porn