KTM 530 EXCR- More better! - Page 12

osteo · 11-27-2009, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob599

Just wondering if anybody new what the stator output was stock? I asume its around 90 and was wondering if anybody offered a higher output stator.

Thanks Ned. I bought both your vids and the book! Great stuff! Thought I was on to somthing with the road book holder but sounds like it was a let down.

Actually, I think it is closer to 70w (at least on the 450 I believe it is). I put the Trail Tech stator on my bike (100w) and no problems running 2HID's as well as my Garmin 276. Not sure what the Baja Designs is, or I know you can get it rewound which can give you more output.

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PacWestGS · 11-27-2009, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob599

Just wondering if anybody new what the stator output was stock? I asume its around 90 and was wondering if anybody offered a higher output stator.

Quote:

Originally Posted by osteo

Actually, I think it is closer to 70w (at least on the 450 I believe it is). I put the Trail Tech stator on my bike (100w) and no problems running 2HID's as well as my Garmin 276. Not sure what the Baja Designs is, or I know you can get it rewound which can give you more output.

Actually ('09 530 EXC) was rated 140-150watt, which should run any after market HID or H4 Halagon without issue.

Guess I can't say what the "R" was it may have been lower, but I don't think so.

Bob599 · 11-27-2009, 07:43 PM

Downloaded the 2010 KTM EXC Manual;

Page 91 Generator 12V 150 Watt

I guess I'm suprised since trail tech sells a 100w. Why would anybody buy a aftermarket stator with less watts? I think I must be missing somthing.

Country Doc · 11-27-2009, 07:43 PM

The KTM stators are AC current which I am told will not be good for HID lighting. I have no idea why, but that's what I'm told.

Also the KTM stator's rated output is at max-output rpm. The Trailtech stators are rated at idle. 100W's at idle is a lot more than the stock EXC stator puts out. Trailtech told me by phone that their stator should easily run the 70W HID X2, heated grips, a GPS, rad fan and another 35W helmet light. Practical experience on KTMTalk with the stock stator seems like it's way less than that - lots of folks that add any single additional accessory (fan for example), will not get adequate charging of their battery.

dc

neduro · 11-27-2009, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bmwrider75

... lots of folks that add any single additional accessory (fan for example), will not get adequate charging of their battery.

That was my experience when I had the fan- on a really difficult section with the fan running constantly and a few restarts, I'd have to start kicking.

osteo · 11-27-2009, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by neduro

That was my experience when I had the fan- on a really difficult section with the fan running constantly and a few restarts, I'd have to start kicking.

Hmm.. I'll have to remember that after I install my fan.
Sort of makes one think about switching to the current stator.

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Bob599 · 11-27-2009, 10:09 PM

Ned, did you upgrade to the trail tech stator? Or has anybody actualy instaled one and what were the results.

They told me that if I added a heavy weight flywheel and their stator on my CRF 450 R it would have 50 watts at idle and keep my headlight bright. More like half throttle it was bright. I did end up putting on one of their battery back ups and it did work well but the stator upgrade from my Baja Designs made no difference at all. Their products, in the end, worked well and had good customer service with knowledgeable people. Don't mean to bash but you know.....

Just wondering before I spend $170.

JayBo1 · 11-28-2009, 01:11 AM

I run the TrailTech stator on my '09 530 EXC Rallye bike. It's fitted with heated grips, twin HID's and all the Rallye navigation gear and additional dust lights needed for Rallye racing. The standard stator is almost exclusively wound for AC with very few coils for providing the DC necessary for the battery charging and running a few DC items in the circuit. I have had no problems with the Trailtech stator and the fitting was reasonably simple if you can follow instructions, can solder and do simple mechanical stuff. I have just today picked up a fan unit to fit ready for the Abu Dhabi Desert Challenge and am told that you need the Trailtech upgrade to run one.

BTW, if anyone wants a Trailtech 100W kit for a 2-Stroke KTM give me a shout. Mecasystem accidentally sent me one so it's just taking up space.

Bob599 · 11-28-2009, 05:53 AM

thanks for the reply and good luck in the rally!

neduro · 11-28-2009, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob599

Ned, did you upgrade to the trail tech stator?

No, that was with the stock part. Last 2 bikes I just didn't install a fan and try to ride faster. That's working out well so far.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayBo1

if anyone wants a Trailtech 100W kit for a 2-Stroke KTM give me a shout.

I'm sorta interested, but I bet shipping would make it a bad deal for us both.

I fitted my 09 300 with a high wattage Halogen Baja Designs setup and it works great. Fades at idle, but not much, and very rideable at night.

JayBo1 · 11-28-2009, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neduro

I'm sorta interested, but I bet shipping would make it a bad deal for us both.

I fitted my 09 300 with a high wattage Halogen Baja Designs setup and it works great. Fades at idle, but not much, and very rideable at night.

I'm happy enough to take it along to the post office and see what it would cost to freight over and let you know. Might not be too bad.
Ciao
JayBo

tobys · 12-05-2009, 10:31 PM

What's with the little second bulb in the 530 housing. The wiring diagram calls it a "parking light", but it is never on by itself - is it some sort of failsafe so you have something if the regular bulb goes? That doesn't seem right...

Thanks!

guns_equal_freedom · 12-05-2009, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tobys

What's with the little second bulb in the 530 housing. The wiring diagram calls it a "parking light", but it is never on by itself - is it some sort of failsafe so you have something if the regular bulb goes? That doesn't seem right...
Thanks!

European running light.

tobys · 12-05-2009, 11:14 PM

So, in Europe, the headlight is not always on, but the parking light is? I guess that makes sense... Thanks.

wrk2surf · 12-07-2009, 01:03 AM

its a daytime driving light and supposedly in highly lit "light polluted areas" it is legal to use at night to cut down on the "pollution" also can be used for a short parking light... I have a hella 90mm like that

11-27-2009, 07:43 PM	#168
Bob599 Bob599 Joined: May 2008 Location: The land of Beer and Cheese (Hartland WI) Oddometer: 279	Stator 150 Watts Downloaded the 2010 KTM EXC Manual; Page 91 Generator 12V 150 Watt I guess I'm suprised since trail tech sells a 100w. Why would anybody buy a aftermarket stator with less watts? I think I must be missing somthing.

11-27-2009, 07:43 PM	#169
Country Doc Wanderer Joined: Dec 2006 Location: somwhere north of Kingston, Ontario Oddometer: 2,454	The KTM stators are AC current which I am told will not be good for HID lighting. I have no idea why, but that's what I'm told. Also the KTM stator's rated output is at max-output rpm. The Trailtech stators are rated at idle. 100W's at idle is a lot more than the stock EXC stator puts out. Trailtech told me by phone that their stator should easily run the 70W HID X2, heated grips, a GPS, rad fan and another 35W helmet light. Practical experience on KTMTalk with the stock stator seems like it's way less than that - lots of folks that add any single additional accessory (fan for example), will not get adequate charging of their battery. dc __________________ Little Bikes, Big Desert II - Death Valley 2012 Little Bikes, Big Desert - Panamint/Mojave 2010 Little DR's, Big Mountains Desert's, Sunshine, and DR's

11-27-2009, 10:09 PM	#172
Bob599 Bob599 Joined: May 2008 Location: The land of Beer and Cheese (Hartland WI) Oddometer: 279	Trail Tech Ned, did you upgrade to the trail tech stator? Or has anybody actualy instaled one and what were the results. They told me that if I added a heavy weight flywheel and their stator on my CRF 450 R it would have 50 watts at idle and keep my headlight bright. More like half throttle it was bright. I did end up putting on one of their battery back ups and it did work well but the stator upgrade from my Baja Designs made no difference at all. Their products, in the end, worked well and had good customer service with knowledgeable people. Don't mean to bash but you know..... Just wondering before I spend $170.

11-28-2009, 01:11 AM	#173
JayBo1 Beastly Adventurer Joined: Aug 2007 Location: Perth, Western Australia Oddometer: 2,432	I run the TrailTech stator on my '09 530 EXC Rallye bike. It's fitted with heated grips, twin HID's and all the Rallye navigation gear and additional dust lights needed for Rallye racing. The standard stator is almost exclusively wound for AC with very few coils for providing the DC necessary for the battery charging and running a few DC items in the circuit. I have had no problems with the Trailtech stator and the fitting was reasonably simple if you can follow instructions, can solder and do simple mechanical stuff. I have just today picked up a fan unit to fit ready for the Abu Dhabi Desert Challenge and am told that you need the Trailtech upgrade to run one. BTW, if anyone wants a Trailtech 100W kit for a 2-Stroke KTM give me a shout. Mecasystem accidentally sent me one so it's just taking up space. __________________ JayBo on Safari Bro 1, Kiwi Safari Team, Perth, WA KTM 450 Rally ... arrived KTM 530 EXC-R (R for Rally, right!!) ... or Retired or Redundant Cagiva 750 Elefant - Lucky Explorer '88

12-05-2009, 10:31 PM	#177
tobys OCD Hobbiest Joined: May 2008 Location: Redmond, WA Oddometer: 321	Speaking of lights... What's with the little second bulb in the 530 housing. The wiring diagram calls it a "parking light", but it is never on by itself - is it some sort of failsafe so you have something if the regular bulb goes? That doesn't seem right... Thanks!

11-28-2009, 05:53 AM	#174
Bob599 Bob599 Joined: May 2008 Location: The land of Beer and Cheese (Hartland WI) Oddometer: 279	thanks for the reply and good luck in the rally!

12-05-2009, 11:14 PM	#179
tobys OCD Hobbiest Joined: May 2008 Location: Redmond, WA Oddometer: 321	So, in Europe, the headlight is not always on, but the parking light is? I guess that makes sense... Thanks.

12-07-2009, 01:03 AM	#180
wrk2surf BITD/Rallye Joined: Dec 2007 Location: THE exact center of California/Bass lake/Yosemite Oddometer: 5,307	its a daytime driving light and supposedly in highly lit "light polluted areas" it is legal to use at night to cut down on the "pollution" also can be used for a short parking light... I have a hella 90mm like that __________________ Thanks for the 2013 support: DUNLOP, BELL HELMETS, Kriega USA, Carbon-pro.com, Ride 100% Goggles, Renazco Racing, Sidi/Motonation, Acerbis USA,KLeN, FMF, Mx1west,,Masters paint and body, Magura , motolab ,and Freedom Cycle

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