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Old 05-18-2013, 06:26 PM   #4321
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I've tried some of the local rock crawling trails in Western MA on mine, only 2 problems I ran into were stopping and going on slick downhills since most of the time if vehicles can't get up a hill they just light up the throttle and put a nice smooth layer of rubber on the rocks and then the 530 once hot from climbing hard inclines with a lot of stops and stalls on the bigger boulder trails does not like restarting after a good hour or so in the heat. Taking your time and the right gearing with low tire pressures and you conquer pretty much anything.

This is the closest trail to me called Jeep eater. This was one of the only places I could really stop and put the kickstand down.


It would be a little more difficult now though.



Oh and I've been a long time Creeper on this thread without posting. Thanks to everyone for helping me make sooo many less bad decisions than I would have.
My brother has a place at Deep Creek. When I go up this summer, should I take my 525? It is plated and I would love to ride it up there.
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Old 05-19-2013, 03:38 AM   #4322
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Im still having a hard time getting the clutch to dis-engage all the way on my 2011 530,bled the clutch thouroughly,Im running T-6 Synthetic for trans oil currently,I cant see how it would work well on singletrack with a dragging clutch helping stall the engine in tight stuff.
Any other 530 riders dealt with this issue and fixed it?

Ive had a good collection of KTM's and all had a clutch that dis-engaged no problem.

Thanks for any help!
I have a 2011 530, and mine drags when cold, so much so that when I put it in gear to take off it stalls unless I give it some gas. Also, I have to find neutral to start it on the e-starter - hot or cold. I have kind of got used to it now, just one of the querks of this bike. Was thinking it may get better as time goes on - not done many miles, only 3 oil changes from new.
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Old 05-19-2013, 04:15 AM   #4323
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try some different oil in the clutch side.... my RFS motor does the same thing if i put in 20-50 Mobil 1 MC oil, yet w/the 10-40 Mobil 1 MC oil, it doesn't, and runs great.... too thick of oil, and it won't let the clutch fibers release.... there's definitely a thing between the clutch fibers and what oil you use, i think that's what that JASO/MA thing is about...... with the bike off, leave it in 1st, and push the bike around w/the clutch in, and you'll you'll feel the clutch bind, and it'll be better w/lighter/different oil.... check it out....
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Old 05-19-2013, 06:50 AM   #4324
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try some different oil in the clutch side.... my RFS motor does the same thing if i put in 20-50 Mobil 1 MC oil, yet w/the 10-40 Mobil 1 MC oil, it doesn't, and runs great.... too thick of oil, and it won't let the clutch fibers release.... there's definitely a thing between the clutch fibers and what oil you use, i think that's what that JASO/MA thing is about...... with the bike off, leave it in 1st, and push the bike around w/the clutch in, and you'll you'll feel the clutch bind, and it'll be better w/lighter/different oil.... check it out....
Motul 5100 has given me the least drag of the oils I've tried.
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Old 05-19-2013, 11:04 AM   #4325
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haven't tried that one.... all the good oils are so $$$, but i ain't gonna use that rotella stuff, so.... maybe try that motul stuff.... the 300V stuff is supposed to be good too....
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Old 05-19-2013, 11:19 AM   #4326
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ATF in the trans works very well. I run the Rotella in it sometime too, whatever is in the garage at the time.
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Old 05-19-2013, 03:04 PM   #4327
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Rekluse recommends Rotella in the transmission side( as opposed to full synth Motorex, or the like).
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Old 05-19-2013, 06:58 PM   #4328
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ATF in the trans works very well. I run the Rotella in it sometime too, whatever is in the garage at the time.
I used to use ATF in my 1981 495,supposed to be the hot settup at the time.

It does seem odd that out of the 14 other KTM's Ive had and many other bikes in general, it was irrelevant what oil was used as far as the clutch dis-engaging. Makes me think there's more to it then just oil choice.

I did get the 200XCW out for 100 miles of tight singletrack over the weekend,2 days of bouncing and thrashing through manzanita/boulders/trees and freshly watered decomposed granite did not suck.
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Old 05-19-2013, 09:07 PM   #4329
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I had a weird thing today. I have almost 10,000 miles on my engine of the 2009 530. I was riding on a 2 day Baja jaunt of about 400 miles. The weather was warm but not hot. The bike was running great. I had about 3/4 of a tank of gas. I was doing 40-55 miles per hour on a graded dirt road. I was pretty much bombing along.

All of a sudden the bike just died. Like I had activated the kill switch. No choking or gasping, it just quit running.

We messed with it for 15 minutes, verified we had gas flowing, verified I had oil, I took apart the kill switch, still no joy.

My buddy towed me 30 miles to the border. Along the way I was hitting the starter periodically with no start. We got to the border, while waiting in line for our turn the bike fired right up. I rode it 20 miles home and it ran as good as it ever did.

Ideas on what to check? It makes me nervous to take it back out without finding something wrong.

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Old 05-19-2013, 09:31 PM   #4330
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Old 05-19-2013, 10:41 PM   #4331
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Cdi's will do that sometimes. Get a spare and carry it with you and it will never happen again.
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Old 05-20-2013, 12:34 AM   #4332
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I had a weird thing today. I have almost 10,000 miles on my engine of the 2009 530. I was riding on a 2 day Baja jaunt of about 400 miles. The weather was warm but not hot. The bike was running great. I had about 3/4 of a tank of gas. I was doing 40-55 miles per hour on a graded dirt road. I was pretty much bombing along.

All of a sudden the bike just died. Like I had activated the kill switch. No choking or gasping, it just quit running.

We messed with it for 15 minutes, verified we had gas flowing, verified I had oil, I took apart the kill switch, still no joy.

My buddy towed me 30 miles to the border. Along the way I was hitting the starter periodically with no start. We got to the border, while waiting in line for our turn the bike fired right up. I rode it 20 miles home and it ran as good as it ever did.

Ideas on what to check? It makes me nervous to take it back out without finding something wrong.

DD
I've had that a few times on my 2010 530exc the last time 9km into a 50km loop trail ride it died on me after 3mins it fired up ok about 10km later it happened again I checked everything I could think of 5 or so mins later she fired up again this happened 2 more times before I got to the end of the loop even when she died I would try crash starting it while I still had the momentum no luck at all except the last time 4km from the end on a downhill she fired up I revved the shit out of it & got it another 3km only to die 1km from the finish gave it 5-10mins rest fired her up no problem I haven't been riding the last few months but I need to figger it out before I go out again
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Old 05-20-2013, 05:15 AM   #4333
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I am going to throw some heresay and conjecture out there on the stalling and firing up thing. This is all totally derived from sharing adult beverages with folks that are in the circuit board industry (primarily DOD).

I have heard that many makers of the common circuit boards (auto and other vehicle) have outsource much of their production to stay more profitable. What this has led to is the boards the circuits are embedded in being not as robust to the vibration and heat conditions as they need to be to keep making proper contact. In the case above, the board in the CDI may have some very fine circuits in it to save on the cost of the (copper/silver/gold/platinum) that the trace is made of, then the board the circuit is etched on is thinner also. That could lead to it being more sensitive to heat distortion. I know that these should all be potted so the issue is lessened, but you just never know if there is an issue because it is all "closed".

I have experienced this many times with the older Ford "gold box" ignition systems. After 20 + years the original will finally give up and then I have replaced as many as 5-6 in a 2 year period of the more modern make.
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:31 AM   #4334
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I've had that a few times on my 2010 530exc the last time 9km into a 50km loop trail ride it died on me after 3mins it fired up ok about 10km later it happened again I checked everything I could think of 5 or so mins later she fired up again this happened 2 more times before I got to the end of the loop even when she died I would try crash starting it while I still had the momentum no luck at all except the last time 4km from the end on a downhill she fired up I revved the shit out of it & got it another 3km only to die 1km from the finish gave it 5-10mins rest fired her up no problem I haven't been riding the last few months but I need to figger it out before I go out again
I wish you would get to work on this!

I will pull the tank and look at the wiring, it was literally like an on off switch.
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:04 AM   #4335
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I wish you would get to work on this!

I will pull the tank and look at the wiring, it was literally like an on off switch.
I bet its something simple like some corroded connections behind the headlight or elsewhere. A buddy's 525 coasted to a stop one day and it was dirty connections behind the headlight,key switch maybe.
Water splashes everywhere and takes dirt with it.

New KTM's have gone to better connectors Ive heard.

Always,always,check the simplest stuff first.
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