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Old 12-19-2012, 12:55 PM   #31951
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Just curious - I assumed I needed to raise the tubes in the clamps when I did the shock clevis lowering, to keep the bike more-or-less the same geometry as original. Seems like the handling would be slow with the front high like that. Haven't tried it though, after lowering the rear, I also dropped the front 3/4" before I rode it.

Front is even easier to lower than the rear, if you decide to do it.
mine is adjusted the same... front stock, rear lowered. It actually slows the steering some, which is fine on this bike in my opinion, because this bike turns quick anyway. The bike also feels more stable at speed off-road with set up, especially in the loose stuff.

The original owner had the forks "raised" in the clamps lowering the front to match the rear. I put it back to stock and it was much better, of course the "clickers" for dampening were WAY OFF, and I changed those too. Went from sketchy off-road to stable. I am not sure what had more of an effect, but I did the forks 1st, and it was noticeable in a positive way
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:26 PM   #31952
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I've had one of these about two years and had to use it twice on the WR-R; worked fine, but once in soft ground I had to scramble to find a plastic 20-oz. soft drink bottle to put under it to keep it from sinking up. Usually there's something around for that - rock, plastic bottle, beer can, etc.

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I might add that this particular motorcycle requires a little creative lifting with a trail stand when you want to fix the front tire. The rear wants to scoot and can become unstable. I try and find something to wedge the rear wheel against. A curb or a tree will work.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:50 PM   #31953
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I might add that this particular motorcycle requires a little creative lifting with a trail stand when you want to fix the front tire. The rear wants to scoot and can become unstable. I try and find something to wedge the rear wheel against. A curb or a tree will work.
I just put mine in low gear and it was fine, maybe a bit tippy. Loosen the axle nut and axle clamp bolts BEFORE putting on the trail stand. Still better than hoisting from a tree limb, etc.
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:21 PM   #31954
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Just curious - I assumed I needed to raise the tubes in the clamps when I did the shock clevis lowering, to keep the bike more-or-less the same geometry as original. Seems like the handling would be slow with the front high like that. Haven't tried it though, after lowering the rear, I also dropped the front 3/4" before I rode it.

Front is even easier to lower than the rear, if you decide to do it.
With the aftermarket bars that came installed on mine, I might have a half inch before the forks would hit. It didn't seem to handle different after I lowered the rear.

I don't have issue sliding over to one side to get a foot down, just hard to do when on a sloped trail and rocks cause you to lose all momentum. A lot of my issues off road are really just a matter of confidence. This season I've ridden a lot less and thrown learning off-road on top of it which has led to a lot of weird not feeling right situations and allowed myself to get really psyched out. Some of my issues just require the application of more throttle to power through and more confidence to turn at speed on rough surfaces.
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Old 12-19-2012, 05:48 PM   #31955
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I've had one of these about two years and had to use it twice on the WR-R; worked fine, but once in soft ground I had to scramble to find a plastic 20-oz. soft drink bottle to put under it to keep it from sinking up. Usually there's something around for that - rock, plastic bottle, beer can, etc.

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TNX GSBS

That is the one I am thinking of. I thought I had a missing clevis pin on mine but it is shown with only one so I will go to a local hardware store to see if I can get a similar one. So I can secure the top cradle thing to the upper rod which should make it a little more stable.

TNX Bash3r
For your help. If this doesn't work out I might try FDKLR's stand





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Old 12-19-2012, 06:12 PM   #31956
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TNX GSBS

That is the one I am thinking of. I thought I had a missing clevis pin on mine but it is shown with only one so I will go to a local hardware store to see if I can get a similar one. So I can secure the top cradle thing to the upper rod which should make it a little more stable.

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For your help. If this doesn't work out I might try FDKLR's stand


I know for sure the maker of these stands sourced all the small parts from the hardware store. The foot is an "elevator floor bolt" and the clip is just a standard item.
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:27 PM   #31957
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I know for sure the maker of these stands sourced all the small parts from the hardware store. The foot is an "elevator floor bolt" and the clip is just a standard item.
I made one from aluminum and use a part from a 1/4'' wire wall hanger.
I would really like to find the clip you are talking about. What would you call it or where would it be used?
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:01 PM   #31958
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I made one from aluminum and use a part from a 1/4'' wire wall hanger.
I would really like to find the clip you are talking about. What would you call it or where would it be used?
This is the clip I'm talking about. It's called an "R" Clip. They are for sale everywhere.




If you are talking about the "cradle" on the top of the Trail Stand, the part that sets under your foot peg or where ever, it's custom made for the stand, and can only be sourced thru Steve on his web site. Email him and tell him Rick James referred you................. He'll give you one for FREE!!!

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Old 12-19-2012, 07:07 PM   #31959
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This is the clip I'm talking about. It's called an "R" Clip. They are for sale everywhere.


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Old 12-19-2012, 08:03 PM   #31960
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Ok, thanks for the pics. I have that part and the one I could not think of, the cradle is the one I would like to have. I have to give him a shout.
Thanks again.
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:27 PM   #31961
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This is the clip I'm talking about. It's called an "R" Clip. They are for sale everywhere.




If you are talking about the "cradle" on the top of the Trail Stand, the part that sets under your foot peg or where ever, it's custom made for the stand, and can only be sourced thru Steve on his web site. Email him and tell him Rick James referred you................. He'll give you one for FREE!!!
TNX KansasBob,

That is the part I was looking for, but could not figure out the name. They use them to secure clevis pins to things like tow bars.

Apparently they also call them hitch pins on Amazon.com
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Old 12-20-2012, 06:29 AM   #31962
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I'm interested in the pic of your home made mount.
I used the same basic design both for my tiger and the WR. With the WR I just bent the plate around more. The pictures make the WR mount look more obstructive to viewing the instrument cluster but really when sitting on the bike its not an issue. I realize some people prefer to have the gps higher but this works for me and, its free.


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Old 12-20-2012, 07:32 AM   #31963
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I used the same basic design both for my tiger and the WR. With the WR I just bent the plate around more. The pictures make the WR mount look more obstructive to viewing the instrument cluster but really when sitting on the bike its not an issue. I realize some people prefer to have the gps higher but this works for me and, its free.

Very clean. If I didn't like the vertical orientation of the Montana so much I might go this route. Thanks for taking the time to post the pics.
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:37 AM   #31964
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I did Hatfield (Buffalo Mtn) a couple months after I bought my Rē in February. It worked just fine on most trails. The bike is a bit heavy for the harder single track stuff but if you're feeling froggy it will get you through most of it.
Thanks for the lead on this trail system. Our family just got our hands on a ton of land in that area so I'll have to try this out when I'm in WV this summer.
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:23 AM   #31965
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Thanks for the lead on this trail system. Our family just got our hands on a ton of land in that area so I'll have to try this out when I'm in WV this summer.
I hear a lot of people there never even touch the hatfield trail systems, because there are so many other "outlaw" trails that are free and awesome. If I was there more than a couple days at the time I would try and explore some of these.
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