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Old 02-06-2013, 10:50 AM   #32971
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I just ordered the IMS 3.0 after agonizing about this since I bought the bike last November. For 99% of my riding, the 3.0 will be fine, but I hope to get back out west in the next couple of years, and I hope to do some big loops that will need 200+ mile fuel range. I chose the 3.0 because of the negative comments regarding fuel slosh and the added width, plus the extra fuel pump is a little too "Rube Goldberg" for my tastes. I'll add a Rotopax or a cheap 2 gal plastic tank on the back for epic rides.
Thanks for the feedback. I've been struggling with the 3.0 or larger? question for a while. Your post kind of helped me orgainze my thoughts, most likely the 3.0 would be my best option, and then carry more for the less frequent times I need more range.
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Old 02-06-2013, 11:01 AM   #32972
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Hey 1-down 5 up. I've got 21,000 on my original 5/08 fuel pump. I'm sure others have more miles. I think they either go bad or they last and last and last...
Did a bit of searching, but this is the "MEGA" thread after all and it's tough to find specifics...

But anyway, is it others' experience that due to known failure issues, is an '08 fuel pump typically replaced by a dealer at no cost? Is there a service bulletin or warranty recall or anything for this issue? I'd rather address it before it fails. Maybe it never will fail, but if it does I can guarantee it won't be in my driveway....
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Old 02-06-2013, 11:54 AM   #32973
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Did a bit of searching, but this is the "MEGA" thread after all and it's tough to find specifics...

But anyway, is it others' experience that due to known failure issues, is an '08 fuel pump typically replaced by a dealer at no cost? Is there a service bulletin or warranty recall or anything for this issue? I'd rather address it before it fails. Maybe it never will fail, but if it does I can guarantee it won't be in my driveway....
I have no idea about Yamaha's warranty policy, but I am convinced that the replacement pump offered by Yamaha is no better than the one in your bike; i.e., it may last a long time or give trouble soon.

I replaced the original in my 2008 thinking I would avoid problems and had it stall in warm weather on a tough uphill trail, but not since that event.
The pump I took out was sold to someone on here that has run it ~35000 or so miles without trouble. Mark Sampson [Big Dog] seems to be replacing his at 17k mile intervals, on his third now, I believe.

Cal Cycleworks sells one that I think is better that the Yam pump, but I am not certain of it's status lately. It requires some work to fit into the assy, not drop-in.

PS: most fi bikes using these small pumps also have occaisional failures, not just Yam.
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Old 02-06-2013, 12:04 PM   #32974
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Yowza! $405 fuel pump on bike bandit!
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Old 02-06-2013, 12:22 PM   #32975
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Yowza! $405 fuel pump on bike bandit!
That's what I paid for mine at a dealer in AZ.
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Old 02-06-2013, 12:34 PM   #32976
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Ron Ayers has it listed for $223.61. That kind of difference makes me wonder if it's correct, but I've never had any issues getting parts from there.
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:30 PM   #32977
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Ron Ayers has it listed for $223.61. That kind of difference makes me wonder if it's correct, but I've never had any issues getting parts from there.
I bought mine from Service Honda for about the same $220. Fit perfect and still runs like a champ.

Write-up here - http://www.wrrdualsport.com/tech-gui...8-fuel-pump-rr
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:38 PM   #32978
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Since mine is a 2008 with about 4k miles on it, I'm debating buying a spare fuel pump to keep on the shelf. The PO didn't replace the pump, but I don't think he was the first owner. Any way to tell if it's been replaced?
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:17 PM   #32979
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Valve Clearances WR250R - 13,000 miles.

Sounded like a valve ticking... so I tore mine apart.
Here's what I found. (had to use inch feeler gages)

Intake Left (spec is .13 mm-.20 mm)
.005 yes. .127 mm
.006 no. .152 mm

Intake Right
.005 yes .127 mm
.006 no .152 mm

Both Intakes are near the min spec.

Exhaust Left (spec is .23mm-.30 mm)
.007 yes .178 mm
.008 no .203 mm

Exhaust Right
.008 yes .203 mm
.009 no .228 mm

Exhausts… Yup, too bloody tight. So I've ordered a hot cams kit
and a metric feeler gage. Hopefully valve clearances will fix the problem.
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:25 PM   #32980
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I agree, I simply bolted 4 metal rubber clad wire looms onto the subframe under the fender and use ROK straps to hold down a duffel. Works great, very minimal and inexpensive, and doesn't interfere with off road riding when not securing a duffel.
I use my WR a lot on tight trails and stuff. I am trying to keep it as lite as possible so I haven't mounted a rear rack. I am doing a week long trip this summer and was wondering about how to mount a duffel . I like your idea, any pics by chance?
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:34 PM   #32981
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Hey TZ. How many miles?
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:02 PM   #32982
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>"Hey TZ. How many miles? "

13,000 miles. Just started ticking.
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:37 PM   #32983
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Sounded like a valve ticking... so I tore mine apart.
Here's what I found. (had to use inch feeler gages)

Intake Left (spec is .13 mm-.20 mm)
.005 yes. .127 mm
.006 no. .152 mm

Intake Right
.005 yes .127 mm
.006 no .152 mm

Both Intakes are near the min spec.

Exhaust Left (spec is .23mm-.30 mm)
.007 yes .178 mm
.008 no .203 mm

Exhaust Right
.008 yes .203 mm
.009 no .228 mm

Exhausts… Yup, too bloody tight. So I've ordered a hot cams kit
and a metric feeler gage. Hopefully valve clearances will fix the problem.
So much for the 24,000 mile valve check. I'd ask if you've been riding the bike hard, but then, there really isn't another way is there?
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:43 PM   #32984
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>"Hey TZ. How many miles? "

13,000 miles. Just started ticking.
TZ,

Save yourself some money and go down to your local service dept. and pickup some loose shims from the mechanics then shave them down on an india stone(knife sharpening; fine grade)so that your valves will set at max setting assuming they still have more breakin to go before settling.
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:44 PM   #32985
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My WR250R and myself being rescued by a FJR with a trailer

So, my WRR battery decided to croak tonight when I was leaving bike night. Had no warnings it was even going, but guess it had had enough. Tore into it in the parking lot thinking it was a fuse, but realized it was a very dead battery that would eventually bring up the fuel pump if you let it sit long enough. Amazingly, we were able to bump start it and I thought I was set as it was running great. But, after letting it idle a few minutes while I put it back together it started sputtering. I tried riding it around the parking lot, but anything over 1/8 - 1/4 throttle was bogging down so I knew there was no way I was riding home like that. There just wasn't enough juice to keep the fuel pump primed I guess?

So, Garry to the rescue who just happened to have his homemade hitch & bike trailer he built for his FJR with him tonight and carrying an old Honda 2T on it. We unloaded the Honda and loaded up the WRR and Garry took me the couple miles home 2up. Of course the guys couldn't wait to snap some pics!

Amazingly, this setup worked pretty well! Garry said it even handled better with me on the back.





Here's his Honda loaded back up.


The FJR Hitch setup


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