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Old 04-20-2013, 07:01 AM   #34876
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Not a MXer but very similar. They are very dependable though, not much different than the WRR. My son has 1 and I maintain it. The 250F's are low maintenance too. IMHO (wife and I have owned 5 of them)
What?

The 450f is a track bike plain and simple. How can you even say they have similar maintenance requirements to a wr250r? You're gonna end up smashing the shit out of your valves and toasting your engine if you think you can have the same maintenance intervals as the wrr...
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Old 04-20-2013, 07:31 AM   #34877
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Is that with a corrected speedo or GPS?

I top out at 78 on flat pavement with a corrected speedo and my mods.. still a 250.
my speedo said 105 mph but my gps said 97.1 i have not done any thing with my speedo yet i just use my gps for now
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Old 04-20-2013, 08:22 AM   #34878
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And what do you weigh in at? A buck nothing? I think you said you still had stock gearing on yours? On mine with my fat ass on it with stock gearing I lose speed in sixth at the top end, need to gear back down to 5th to pick it up. That is why I run different gearing and now my top speed GPS corrected has been 142kms but I think that was downhill with the wind, it seems that my normal top is about 132kms. Last night coming home into a 40km/hr head wind I was struggling to get the bike to do 100kms.
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Old 04-20-2013, 08:35 AM   #34879
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i weigh 196 pounds but with all my gear on im probley about 210 pounds.
and my gearing is 13t 42t when it was stock it was 13t 43t cause thats how yamaha does the wrr funny thing is on a stock wrx is 13t 42t yamaha changed the gearing alittle bit cause of the deffent tire the wrx uses. anyway i went down one tooth in the rear. so next time when that gear wears out ill probley go down one more tooth in the rear to make it 13t 41t.
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Old 04-20-2013, 09:15 AM   #34880
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Wonder what kinda power the 250r is capable of with big bore kit exhaust and any and all mods available? I rode that bike today at full throttle and got it to 71.
I think this is why most dealers are reluctant to offer test rides. Brand new motor and all... I don't think you need to baby these things, but I usually give them a few hundred miles to break in, seat the rings, valves, etc. before I wring them out. They do run better once broken in.

I agree with others, a guy your size really needs a bigger bike, the 250 is probably just too small for you. I'm 5'9" and 175 and it feels good under me, not a lot of power, but it takes me where I want to go and faster than I should go just fine. I have an 1150GS and when I get off that and onto the WR it feels like a bicycle, usually takes several miles before I quit subconsciously doing the size comparison thing and just ride it. It is a WONDERFUL bike.

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Old 04-20-2013, 09:32 AM   #34881
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Just finished 5 days at Moab, Doug. The wr did nicely at the slickrock trail with 12/47 sprockets.
Also did the white rim trail, what a buttburner.

No, I'm too old for 5 miles of hell... probably the wrong bike for that anyway.
Yeah, that place is just glorious! If you've never been, you need to go if you like off-road riding. I did the White Rim trail with some buddies once on mountain bikes, followed by two 4X4 sag wagons with our camping gear (3 days/2 nights), beer, and food. I think it was 112 miles total, from Island in the Sky visitor center around and back. That last few miles of asphalt after climbing out of the Green River and leaving the dirt roads was the longest few miles I've ever done on a bike . We were sitting on a rock at dusk at our last camp waiting for the sag wagons when another guy rode by on his bicycle, alone, with nothing more than a few power bars in his jersey and two water bottles. We chatted a bit and gave him some more water then he took off to finish his ride. He did the whole thing in one very long day, alone, to celebrate his 50th birthday . I said Jeeezuz, Superman, where is your cape?? He said the ferking thing kept getting caught in his spokes so he took it off and ditched in in some bushes. What a stud , it's a seriously long day on a motorcycle!

I miss that stuff a LOT. It's a 5000 mile round trip from here.

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Old 04-20-2013, 10:20 AM   #34882
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Is that with a corrected speedo or GPS?

I top out at 78 on flat pavement with a corrected speedo and my mods.. still a 250.
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My speedo is waaay off - 82 mph indicated is really 70 mph on the GPS. That said, my 2010 WR-R with 22K miles can hit a true 85-87 mph (GPS) on level ground or about 90 mph on a downhill. Mine has FMF pipe, AIS and EXUP removed, opened up airbox with K&N filter. Gearing is 13/47, but I'm running a larger diameter MT-43 rear tire, which makes the gearing very close to the stock 13/43.
I had mine up to 80mph according to the GPS the other day and it was still pulling when I ran out of road. I doubt it would have gone too much higher, though. The only "mod" mine has is I adjusted the TPS to 18-99%. Oh and 13/47 gearing. I weigh a little less than 140lbs without gear, so that helps too.
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Old 04-20-2013, 01:59 PM   #34883
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Not a MXer but very similar. They are very dependable though, not much different than the WRR. My son has 1 and I maintain it. The 250F's are low maintenance too. IMHO (wife and I have owned 5 of them)
I don't have your experience with the WRF, but it seems inaccurate to write "not much different than the WRR" and "250F's are low maintenance too".

They valve check intervals on the WRF are what, 600 miles, vs. 26,000 miles for the WRR?

I don't doubt that WRFs may be considered low maintenance compared to some other off-road competition bikes, but for a dual-sport that may see many tens of thousands of miles, I don't think there is any comparison.
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Old 04-20-2013, 02:55 PM   #34884
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  • Hand guards (not going very well - think they are for smaller diameter handle bar)
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Old 04-20-2013, 03:17 PM   #34885
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What brand handguards and what difficulty are you experiencing?
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Old 04-20-2013, 03:36 PM   #34886
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Ya it looks like your bars are stock. They would be 7/8 bars, they don't get any smaller then that. But might just be the bend of the bars.
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Old 04-20-2013, 03:53 PM   #34887
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I don't have your experience with the WRF, but it seems inaccurate to write "not much different than the WRR" and "250F's are low maintenance too".

They valve check intervals on the WRF are what, 600 miles, vs. 26,000 miles for the WRR?

I don't doubt that WRFs may be considered low maintenance compared to some other off-road competition bikes, but for a dual-sport that may see many tens of thousands of miles, I don't think there is any comparison.
What you may not be taking into consideration is about 90% of the posters on this site don't ride much they are the weekend warrior type (as long as the sun is out and it's warm and the wife will let me and the moon is in the waxing gibbous stage and my buddies want to go.....and spend more on farkles than riding .....,,). So what may be "high maintenance" to you might mean once every other year to them.
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Old 04-20-2013, 04:06 PM   #34888
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What brand handguards and what difficulty are you experiencing?
They're Zeta guards and the "expansion plugs" seem to be quite loose (I have a set of large and small - I'm using the large ones).

Also, the aluminum bars will need to be bent because when the "plug" that goes into the bar end is attached, the plugs are about 10 or 15 degrees from aligning with the bar - I think I can bend the aluminum guards without too much problem but it's sort of a hassle.
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Old 04-20-2013, 04:30 PM   #34889
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They're Zeta guards and the "expansion plugs" seem to be quite loose (I have a set of large and small - I'm using the large ones).

Also, the aluminum bars will need to be bent because when the "plug" that goes into the bar end is attached, the plugs are about 10 or 15 degrees from aligning with the bar - I think I can bend the aluminum guards without too much problem but it's sort of a hassle.
I don't have any experience with the zeta's put try inserting the "expansion plugs" into some rubber tubing first
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Old 04-20-2013, 04:42 PM   #34890
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I don't have any experience with the zeta's put try inserting the "expansion plugs" into some rubber tubing first
Great idea - thanks.


I have a problem with my tank - I can't get either of these to disconnect - both the electrical connector and the fuel hose coupler.

I think if I could get the electrical plug disconnected, then I'd have enough room with my fingers to press the blue "buttons" to release the fuel hose coupler.

I did already drain the tank.

THANKS FOR ANY HELP!!!

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