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Old 04-20-2013, 10:37 PM   #34906
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Fuel pump issues affect all model years, but it is no worse than many other FI bikes, ktm, husky- bmw, etc. that use in tank pumps. I have a 2008, pulled the pump out and replaced it with new to eliminate any problems, and it crapped on me last summer for about 20 minutes. The take-out pump was sold to a guy on here that has put over 30k miles on it without a hiccup. So which of us has the best pump?

My pump has not given further problems after that one event, I just finished five days a moab on some tough runs, not a miss, neither from the husaberg and husky that were along either, both with tiny in tank pumps very similar to the wr..
The 2008 year model had a defect in the fuel pump that lead to a recall in Japan and a service bulletin from Yamaha in other locations. It is well documented. Pretty much you were either going to have a fuel pump that would last the life of the bike or it was going to die an early death by 2,000-3,000 miles.
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Old 04-21-2013, 05:21 AM   #34907
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The installation of the IMS 4.7 gallon fuel tank is "finished" but I have a few comments
  • The directions suck - if you look at step #14 through #17, there is no clear indication these steps are apparently ONLY for the California WR250R --> LINK
  • The rear tank mount holes do not line up - mine were off by probably 3/16 of an inch - sort of a PITA to line up just right but I did it.
  • You have to be *very careful* the new vacuum line doesn't get pinched when you install the seat - this doesn't really seem like a big deal but worthy of mention

I know it's impossible to retool their mold to resolve the alignment problem with the rear tank mount - and they did get that "close" but I would not let that issue deter anyone from buying one of these tanks.

Although I haven't put fuel in it and tested it in use, I'm very impressed with this tank system. The quality of the molded part, the fittings included, the routing of the internal hoses and just about everything else has a very respectable, very high quality appearance and seems to be very well though out. There were some who mentioned earlier versions that needed items to increase performance/reliability but everything seems to have been worked out on the new versions.

After my ride in the mountain roads today, I'll post photos and ride report indicating what happens when the tank is actually being used but based on what most people have experienced, I don't think I'll have anything new to say that hasn't already been mentioned.

Finally (probably a stupid question) after I buttoned everything back together last night and looked at this beast of a tank on my '13 WR, I was thinking it would look nicer if I painted the sides of it white. Is it possible to paint a plastic tank and have a durable finish or would this just be a waste of time?

Thanks to everyone here who inspires me and those who have helped me so much - I genuinely appreciate your knowledge, experience, suggestions and recommendations!

Ride safe, ride often, enjoy it,

RS
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:42 AM   #34908
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From my buddy Rydnseeks experience with one of the first IMS 4.7's
it's not all useable unless you lay the bike over, & over & over. I can go farther with my Safari without stopping to tip over the bike.
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:02 AM   #34909
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2012 and 2013

Are there any differences between WR250R 2012 and 2013 years production?
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:18 AM   #34910
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The installation of the IMS 4.7 gallon fuel tank is "finished" but I have a few comments
  • The directions suck - if you look at step #14 through #17, there is no clear indication these steps are apparently ONLY for the California WR250R --> LINK
  • The rear tank mount holes do not line up - mine were off by probably 3/16 of an inch - sort of a PITA to line up just right but I did it.
  • You have to be *very careful* the new vacuum line doesn't get pinched when you install the seat - this doesn't really seem like a big deal but worthy of mention

I know it's impossible to retool their mold to resolve the alignment problem with the rear tank mount - and they did get that "close" but I would not let that issue deter anyone from buying one of these tanks.

Although I haven't put fuel in it and tested it in use, I'm very impressed with this tank system. The quality of the molded part, the fittings included, the routing of the internal hoses and just about everything else has a very respectable, very high quality appearance and seems to be very well though out. There were some who mentioned earlier versions that needed items to increase performance/reliability but everything seems to have been worked out on the new versions.

After my ride in the mountain roads today, I'll post photos and ride report indicating what happens when the tank is actually being used but based on what most people have experienced, I don't think I'll have anything new to say that hasn't already been mentioned.

Finally (probably a stupid question) after I buttoned everything back together last night and looked at this beast of a tank on my '13 WR, I was thinking it would look nicer if I painted the sides of it white. Is it possible to paint a plastic tank and have a durable finish or would this just be a waste of time?

Thanks to everyone here who inspires me and those who have helped me so much - I genuinely appreciate your knowledge, experience, suggestions and recommendations!

Ride safe, ride often, enjoy it,

RS
Yeah I had issues getting my bolts to line up, but its really not that bad. I figure after some use and lots of gas and bumping around, the tank will probably be easier to take off and put on on future maintenance.

You do not want to paint the tank. Your paint will not last and look like crap. Didn't you buy the natural so you could see the gas?

BTW, those little cutouts for the blinkers have turned out to be great places to rest your legs when you are just cruising and stretch your legs. It works out even better if you have a hard case on back to lean up against.
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:19 AM   #34911
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Are there any differences between WR250R 2012 and 2013 years production?
I don't think anything other than plastic colors & graphics.
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:44 AM   #34912
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I don't think anything other than plastic colors & graphics.
Didn't the price go up also?


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Old 04-21-2013, 07:46 AM   #34913
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I just returned from the auto parts store with my 27mm socket.

Breaker bar finally cracked off the nut . . . what was the torque setting they used?

I'm guessing 345 Nm

Ridiculous . . .

Is this a "recommended setting" for chain tension --> LINK (last photo & description) It llooks good to me but . . . I'm just a mechanic wannabie.

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Old 04-21-2013, 08:19 AM   #34914
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The installation of the IMS 4.7 gallon fuel tank is "finished" but I have a few comments
  • The directions suck - if you look at step #14 through #17, there is no clear indication these steps are apparently ONLY for the California WR250R --> LINK
  • The rear tank mount holes do not line up - mine were off by probably 3/16 of an inch - sort of a PITA to line up just right but I did it.
  • You have to be *very careful* the new vacuum line doesn't get pinched when you install the seat - this doesn't really seem like a big deal but worthy of mention

I know it's impossible to retool their mold to resolve the alignment problem with the rear tank mount - and they did get that "close" but I would not let that issue deter anyone from buying one of these tanks.

Although I haven't put fuel in it and tested it in use, I'm very impressed with this tank system. The quality of the molded part, the fittings included, the routing of the internal hoses and just about everything else has a very respectable, very high quality appearance and seems to be very well though out. There were some who mentioned earlier versions that needed items to increase performance/reliability but everything seems to have been worked out on the new versions.

After my ride in the mountain roads today, I'll post photos and ride report indicating what happens when the tank is actually being used but based on what most people have experienced, I don't think I'll have anything new to say that hasn't already been mentioned.

Finally (probably a stupid question) after I buttoned everything back together last night and looked at this beast of a tank on my '13 WR, I was thinking it would look nicer if I painted the sides of it white. Is it possible to paint a plastic tank and have a durable finish or would this just be a waste of time?

Thanks to everyone here who inspires me and those who have helped me so much - I genuinely appreciate your knowledge, experience, suggestions and recommendations!

Ride safe, ride often, enjoy it,

RS
I have installed 2-4.7 gallon tanks without any issues. It was very helpful to use the installation information from the WR/X Forum. When replacing the tank bolts, I lifted the tank and jiggled all the bolts in place, then tightened them. I love this tank! IMO-this makes the WR a real functional dual-sport bike!
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Old 04-21-2013, 09:08 AM   #34915
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I just tested it with ~1 2/3 gallons in it - no problems!!!

Installed the skid plate, cleaned, lubed and adjusted the chain.

Beautiful day - time to go riding!

Thanks everyone!

Woo hoo!

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Old 04-21-2013, 09:23 AM   #34916
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The 2008 year model had a defect in the fuel pump that lead to a recall in Japan and a service bulletin from Yamaha in other locations. It is well documented. Pretty much you were either going to have a fuel pump that would last the life of the bike or it was going to die an early death by 2,000-3,000 miles.
Mine is a 2008. There are plenty of stories of other years having problems, and the replacements seem to last no longer than installed originals. [ask Mark Sampson] My poorly made point is: don't let the pump keep you away from a deal on a 2008.
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Old 04-21-2013, 09:47 AM   #34917
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This is awful advice.

You don't know this guy, the riding he does, his expectations, his skill level, or 1000 other things that need to align to make a "perfect" bike for him.

The 800 GS is night and day different than the WRR, designed for a different application. A lot of guys that have a WRR as a small bike also have some sort of bigger bikeand each fills a nice niche with a little overlap.

My advice to you - and I'm not trying to be a dick here - is STFU with the advice. You've owned a WRR for what, a month, and you are already the end all be all of knowledge relating to the bike? How about you ride it a while, figure out what works for you, and then if asked specifically about something that you have firsthand knowledge of, you speak up. Otherwise you're like a virgin telling a group of porn stars how to fuck.
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:37 AM   #34918
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ok, guys, prepping for spring, i find my bat has got what my smart charger tells me is a sulfated cell. guess it's time for a new one, anyone got a good suggestions on where to get one for the right price?
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:39 AM   #34919
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ok, guys, prepping for spring, i find my bat has got what my smart charger tells me is a sulfated cell. guess it's time for a new one, anyone got a good suggestions on where to get one for the right price?
The OEM is hard to beat, mine is still ticking along nicely in an '08. Lots of reports from owners about how durable it is. I'll replace mine with the OEM when it's finally time...
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Old 04-21-2013, 12:47 PM   #34920
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The OEM is hard to beat, mine is still ticking along nicely in an '08. Lots of reports from owners about how durable it is. I'll replace mine with the OEM when it's finally time...
Ya, on board with that, but more to the point, who's got the good price?
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