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Old 07-15-2013, 09:35 PM   #36586
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what's 35mm film?

I think I've heard of that stuff.
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Old 07-16-2013, 01:49 AM   #36587
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So talked to the Son today about oil change ..he told me yam manual says 1000kms ...WTF that's less than my xrr ...I thought these things ran long k's b4 oil is needed .....its 4000kms from home to alice for his oil change or he can change oil with me 3000k's out from alice

I heard 5000kms oil change on a wrr ....so I thought no worries he change out with me at alice ...means we don't need to carry oil as most of the towns we visit wont have oil till alice

anyways what say you? change him out with me at 3000kms from alice ?
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Old 07-16-2013, 02:49 AM   #36588
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You can download the manual from Yamaha for free.

The FIRST oil change is at 1,000 km, but it's every 5,000 km after that.
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Old 07-16-2013, 02:51 AM   #36589
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You can download the manual from Yamaha for free.

The FIRST oil change is at 1,000 km, but it's every 5,000 km after that.
thank you ... I have the manual here I have not read it ... its my sons bike .....good to know tho ... I shall read the service part myself tomorrow at work
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:08 AM   #36590
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thank you ... I have the manual here I have not read it ... its my sons bike .....good to know tho ... I shall read the service part myself tomorrow at work

Not sure if this helps - did Cooktown - Tip - Daintree with no change as I felt that fell in the 5000km type of conditions. At home most of the stuff is in Kenilworth/Beerburrum so I work on 1500km on the theory that oil is cheaper than an early rebuild.

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Old 07-16-2013, 09:38 AM   #36591
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Can't seem to find what I'm looking for...

My new to me WRR has a FMF Q4 and Powerbomb header. I'm gonna put stock exhaust back on.

a) leave powerbomb on? Any gain over stock header WITH stock exhaust?

b) take powerbomb off and put stock header back on?

If there is no power difference, I'll likely remove both. More to sell for farkles I really want. If there is a power difference, I'll likely keep the powerbomb on. Goal here is a quieter bike, not a couple hp.

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Old 07-16-2013, 09:54 AM   #36592
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Can't seem to find what I'm looking for...

My new to me WRR has a FMF Q4 and Powerbomb header. I'm gonna put stock exhaust back on.

a) leave powerbomb on? Any gain over stock header WITH stock exhaust?

b) take powerbomb off and put stock header back on?

If there is no power difference, I'll likely remove both. More to sell for farkles I really want. If there is a power difference, I'll likely keep the powerbomb on. Goal here is a quieter bike, not a couple hp.

Thanks.
I can't help first hand, but mine is stock and it is fast enough for me. It is also quite.
I read on the 250 forum and some people did not notice a difference while others said they did.

It is kind of up to you. If you want less mgp, and a load noise, and maybe a couple of hp, go for it.
The only way you will feel a difference in my opinion, is to go with a total mod, including a larger jug and piston. jmho
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Old 07-16-2013, 10:18 AM   #36593
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Can't seem to find what I'm looking for...

My new to me WRR has a FMF Q4 and Powerbomb header. I'm gonna put stock exhaust back on. .
I had a PB and stock pipe that I opened up a bit by drilling out the flat baffle you can see if you remove the tip and look inside.
I'd say a bit more poop than the stock header but nothing to write home about.
I also had a stock pipe with the cat section removed. It wasn't much diff at all.

That said, your best bet is to do the whole FMF mod or not at all.
Q4, PB, and controller. On my friend's stock bike with the airbox door removed, and the FMF package installed, bike ran almost as well as my Athena kitted bike, but without the vibration...

Bone stock and constricted the bike is pretty tame.
Opening up the airbox is a good thing, but most of the noise on a WR comes directly from the airbox, right up into your helmet. The pipe noise is incidental in comparison.

Cheap alternative mod is the airbox flapper, drilled airbox door, and open up the stock pipe.
believe me, I tried it all...

Now if you're looking for some farkles, I have a nice set of Pivot Pegz in the FM......
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Old 07-16-2013, 10:37 AM   #36594
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i would put the entire exhaust back to stock along with the EXUP valve if you have it as that improves low/mid range response, it will be quiet but still peppy and you wont have to repack the muffler. i have ran stock vs modded wrr's side by side and there is just not that much difference, imo. modded bikes have less mpg/more noise and unlike my neighbor with a harley, i want my neighbors to like me!


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Can't seem to find what I'm looking for...

My new to me WRR has a FMF Q4 and Powerbomb header. I'm gonna put stock exhaust back on.

a) leave powerbomb on? Any gain over stock header WITH stock exhaust?

b) take powerbomb off and put stock header back on?

If there is no power difference, I'll likely remove both. More to sell for farkles I really want. If there is a power difference, I'll likely keep the powerbomb on. Goal here is a quieter bike, not a couple hp.

Thanks.
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Old 07-16-2013, 11:33 AM   #36595
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i would put the entire exhaust back to stock along with the EXUP valve...
Hmm. Alright. Mine is removed. Anybody want to dispute this? What about the AIS? Its been blocked off..
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:55 PM   #36596
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The whole stock vs aftermarket exhaust/ programmer has been debated multiples times in this thread as well as other sites. Each has its advantages.

Stock: quieter, heavier, less restrictive bottom end, more restrictive top end

Aftermarket: Louder( model depending), lighter, more(hair) restrictive bottom end((less power)), less restrictive top end

EXUP valve: In my opinion, based on what I have read and seen of vids in its action on the WR250R/X, its function is more for show and EPA noise standards than anything else. Extra weight.

AIS: Again, in my opinion, its post combustion, so only there for emissions reasoning and does nothing for running of bike. Extra weight.

Programmer: Stock maps are never optimal due to regulations they have to meet, for a street bike. Yes, Japanese engineers are very smart people, and make the best map they can to meet the needs and guidelines they have to have the bike fall into. BUT, especially when changing around the restrictive exhaust, changes are need to map.

So, for me, I wanted the lighter weight, and less restrictive top end( bike does not make a lot of power low anyway...so who cares about lower end). I used gearing changes to get a little more grunt on low end. I am also not worried about noise....I like to hear my bikes personally. I got rid of the EXUP and AIS....just weight to make the bike heavier than it needed to be.
And to boot, I got a used FMF Q4 can and a new programmer( private seller) for about $250 combined.

So, that was the right decision for me..others may vary. Get what works best for you.
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Old 07-16-2013, 01:00 PM   #36597
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Old 07-16-2013, 01:35 PM   #36598
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The whole stock vs aftermarket exhaust/ programmer has been debated multiples times in this thread as well as other sites. Each has its advantages.

Stock: quieter, heavier, less restrictive bottom end, more restrictive top end

Aftermarket: Louder( model depending), lighter, more(hair) restrictive bottom end((less power)), less restrictive top end

EXUP valve: In my opinion, based on what I have read and seen of vids in its action on the WR250R/X, its function is more for show and EPA noise standards than anything else. Extra weight.

AIS: Again, in my opinion, its post combustion, so only there for emissions reasoning and does nothing for running of bike. Extra weight.

Programmer: Stock maps are never optimal due to regulations they have to meet, for a street bike. Yes, Japanese engineers are very smart people, and make the best map they can to meet the needs and guidelines they have to have the bike fall into. BUT, especially when changing around the restrictive exhaust, changes are need to map.

So, for me, I wanted the lighter weight, and less restrictive top end( bike does not make a lot of power low anyway...so who cares about lower end). I used gearing changes to get a little more grunt on low end. I am also not worried about noise....I like to hear my bikes personally. I got rid of the EXUP and AIS....just weight to make the bike heavier than it needed to be.
And to boot, I got a used FMF Q4 can and a new programmer( private seller) for about $250 combined.

So, that was the right decision for me..others may vary. Get what works best for you.
I read somewhere the powerbomb is for more top end, and the megabomb is for more bottom, being that the wr is already weak at the bottom,I'd go with a megabomb.

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Old 07-16-2013, 01:47 PM   #36599
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I read somewhere the powerbomb is for more top end, and the megabomb is for more bottom, being that the wr is already weak at the bottom,I'd go with a megabomb.

-ry
I still have my stock header, so I really don't know. Personally, buying new, seems like a lot of money for maybe 0.7 HP it may add.
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Old 07-16-2013, 01:49 PM   #36600
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I still have my stock header, so I really don't know. Personally, buying new, seems like a lot of money for maybe 0.7 HP it may add.

True true, I just don't like stock exhausts,I just need that aftermarket look, to each his own I guess right.


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