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Old 03-08-2010, 08:13 AM   #11446
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I feel you need it to be balanced front to back?
This is a direct quote from Yamalink:

"Changes to rake/trail (the forks) do not need to be on a 1:1 ratio with the rear because geometry is affected at a different rate. In addition, 18mm (3/4") is the most I'd raise the forks due to the possibility of fender/wheel contact at full bottoming."
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Old 03-08-2010, 08:24 AM   #11447
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Can it be made better by sending it out for a revalve & springs, you betcha! But I have this notion I can make it more user friendly myself?
This may sound crazy to some but here is where I am on the suspension. I went with Eibach 7.1KG shock spring, softer. Backed out the clickers almost all the way. First tried the rebound setting almost full on, clockwise in. The back still pogoed some so backed off almost all the way. Instead of the whole back end wheel & all off the ground the wheel now follows the terrian. Has not bottomed & better everywhere. Bought a set of 43KG springs on E-bay out of a 2002 YZ125. Perfect fit. Then you can try different weight fork oil to suit yourself on what works best. I am useing 9oz 2.5 weight in each leg. Bike is lowered & has Yamalink. Forks are raised 1/2 inch in clamps. I feel you need it to be balanced front to back? I weigh 180 & am not that aggresive a rider but like to go fast wherever I can. Just my non professional seat of the pants evaluation??
9 oz is no enoungh oil to cover the cartidge , you maybe have 19 oz??
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Old 03-08-2010, 08:25 AM   #11448
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I installed the Yamalink and did the 1" factory lowering.

At first I raised the front fork tubes up about 12MM in the triple
clamps but have since dropped them down to 3MM.

The bike handles well and its cured the stinkbuggy tail-end high
stance it has stock. I also think that the longer shock link has
help to smooth the rear suspension as well.
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Old 03-08-2010, 09:59 AM   #11449
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9 oz is no enoungh oil to cover the cartidge , you maybe have 19 oz??
No actually 9 or close. Did not completely wash out forks. Just turned upside down drained & pumped them out into can. No topping on rebound & much better on the small stuff, rocks & such?? By balance I mean fairly level front to back eliminating the butts up feeling!
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Old 03-08-2010, 10:06 AM   #11450
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question about the yamalink and the rear shock.

shouldn't using that affect the leverage ratio?
on other bikes lowering links cause the spring to be optimal in a lowered weight range.


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Can it be made better by sending it out for a revalve & springs, you betcha! But I have this notion I can make it more user friendly myself?
This may sound crazy to some but here is where I am on the suspension. I went with Eibach 7.1KG shock spring, softer. Backed out the clickers almost all the way. First tried the rebound setting almost full on, clockwise in. The back still pogoed some so backed off almost all the way. Instead of the whole back end wheel & all off the ground the wheel now follows the terrian. Has not bottomed & better everywhere. Bought a set of 43KG springs on E-bay out of a 2002 YZ125. Perfect fit. Then you can try different weight fork oil to suit yourself on what works best. I am useing 9oz 2.5 weight in each leg. Bike is lowered & has Yamalink. Forks are raised 1/2 inch in clamps. I feel you need it to be balanced front to back? I weigh 180 & am not that aggresive a rider but like to go fast wherever I can. Just my non professional seat of the pants evaluation??
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Old 03-08-2010, 10:26 AM   #11451
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I think that would be why mine is fairly decent. I'm small and I haven't had the seat try to pass my ears.
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Old 03-08-2010, 06:42 PM   #11452
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had about the same experience, the rider behind me saw it all happen and said he saw the back wheel almost as high as my head was just a second before it happened.

second time I had this problem was when I hit a 40cm high whoop with not enough speed. the front whent over fine, but when the rear hit the whoop it catapulted me over the bars and I came to a dead-end stop straight with the top of my head in the sand (heard lots of popping and crunching noises in my head and spine). after I was standing for a split second on my head in the sand I fell forward onto my back and was waiting for the bike to land on top of me, but luckily it fell to the other side.

luckily the only damage to me was a sore wrist (I got the mirror) and a stiff neck + headache for a few days. the bike only had twisted forklegs which I could straighten by releasing and retightening the tripleclamps.

so normally I don't have a problem with the suspension, but sometimes I get in situations that require some better settings
Leipo, I mean no disrespect, but do you know how to hit a jump? I didn't for the longest time and everytime I'd hit a big bump or jump, the rear end would try to throw me over the handlebars. I didn't realize it, but every time I'd hit a jump I'd let off the gas at the last second, which would cause my problem. Once I learned to maintain throttle all the way through the jump, all was good. I'm not saying the stock suspension won't try to kill you , just that sometimes our technique can kill us as well.
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Old 03-08-2010, 07:43 PM   #11453
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Hi Machtig:

Now that your suspension is back, how about a report on the dyna-ring? I am ready to buy one but was hoping for a report first.

Thanks!

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Old 03-09-2010, 01:35 AM   #11454
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Leipo, I mean no disrespect, but do you know how to hit a jump? I didn't for the longest time and everytime I'd hit a big bump or jump, the rear end would try to throw me over the handlebars. I didn't realize it, but every time I'd hit a jump I'd let off the gas at the last second, which would cause my problem. Once I learned to maintain throttle all the way through the jump, all was good. I'm not saying the stock suspension won't try to kill you , just that sometimes our technique can kill us as well.
I know what you are saying
I know the effect of releasing the gas just moment before the jump and I really try to avoid that but it also happens when I hit a ledge at speed with the gashandle wide open to clear the front wheel over the obstacle.

my guess is that it depends on the slope of the ledge/whoop whether or not the back kicks you in the @ss
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Old 03-09-2010, 05:50 AM   #11455
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I had seen 2 guys on an ATV the day before head into the woods near the park so I figured I'd go check it out.

It led into some nice maritime forests with a sandy floor.


Do you by chance have GPS coordinates or directions to this trail head? We go down to Atlantic Beach several times per year, and it would be great to take the WR. PM me if you can help. Thanks!
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Old 03-09-2010, 06:18 AM   #11456
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will the wr250r take the same rear sprocket as the wr250f ? cant seem to find any sprockets specifically for the R
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Old 03-09-2010, 06:20 AM   #11457
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will the wr250r take the same rear sprocket as the wr250f ? cant seem to find any sprockets specifically for the R
Yes but you need the nuts and bolts.

I believe the bolts are flush mount for the wrf and surface bolts stock on wrr.
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Old 03-09-2010, 07:34 AM   #11458
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Old 03-09-2010, 08:21 AM   #11459
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New test update

Yesterday i took the wrr for 1 1/2 hour ride around the shop in the mud snow ,i put a 49 t rear (rode sunday with 48t)the rest was the same new milville rear tire 110/100/18 .
The gas mileage is the same around 36/40 mpg but the hook was even better with the 49 i can ride it a little easy and no so much wide open throttle with it.
So im pretty happy with the new suspension settings the i install for sunday and the shock change .
Did anyone out there run a 50t rear with 13 front and a knobby ?/and wath are you toughs ??
Very happy on how the wrr performs in the single track and goat trails now .
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Old 03-09-2010, 08:30 AM   #11460
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First time...

Sunday I took my month-old WR-R on a somewhat steep/technical trail for the first time. I was amazed at how easily it handled the terrain compared to the F650 Dakar I've ridden exclusively for 70K miles over the last three years.

A stop on the trail:


En route to here (a beau-ti-ful camping spot on the Sipsey River in NW Alabama):
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