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Old 06-30-2008, 06:30 PM   #1
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Two way radios in Australia?

We're heading down under for a nice little jaunt and were planning to use two way radios on and off the bikes for communication, due to the low price and longer range than blue tooth. However, it looks like the Aussies use a different frequency than the ones used by the standard FRS/GMRS radios available here in the US. After much searching here and googling about, I'm still not sure what our options are, so any suggestions would be appreciated. I looked at the cost of buying two ways in Sydney, but wow, were they expensive, at least what I found.

Are FRS/GMRS radios (eg, Motorola Talkabouts, 462/467 MHz) unusable then? What would be a useful, long range handheld option (with ear piece of course)? Must we consign ourselves to blue tooth?

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Old 07-01-2008, 03:00 AM   #2
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Aus ebay? (www.ebay.com.au)

Plenty of riders use handheld UHF over here, but as you have seen we pay a lot more than you do for the privilige...

You might also try the Aus forum for some relevant suggestions.
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Old 07-01-2008, 03:27 AM   #3
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I picked up an ICOM IC41S handheld UHF with an ear peace today , it looks like it will do a decent job on the bike , 5 watts with low power option , weather proof & looks strong enough . Haven't had a chance to try it yet but will post here when I do .
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Old 07-01-2008, 03:41 PM   #4
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Are FRS/GMRS radios (eg, Motorola Talkabouts, 462/467 MHz) unusable then?
They are not legal here ... "usable' ?

There is an extensive UHF CB network set up with repeaters here. If you want to use that then you'll need 'our' UHF sets ..
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Old 07-01-2008, 06:02 PM   #5
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I remember when I lived there, I worked 60miles from Echuca in a town called Boort. There were days when we could chat with people in Echuca in regular vehicle mounted UHF's. 10-15 miles was a pretty normal.
Wait till you get there and get one of these.
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Old 07-02-2008, 02:58 PM   #6
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Thanks for all the great comments. I've been looking at Aus eBay and Craigslist, as well as looking into rentals, which seem to be more corporate-oriented. I haven't found out what the 462/467 MHz frequencies are used for down under, but knowing my luck, if we try to surreptitiously use our US radios, it will be on the police band. Not sure I want to go to jail because every cop in a 30 km radius is unexpectedly forced to listen to our arguments over whether or not we missed a turn and whose fault that was
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Old 07-03-2008, 04:08 AM   #7
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Pmrs

When I was in Europe the FRS-style non-licensed walkie talkies used a standard called PMRS (I think that's for "Personal (or Public) Mobile Radio Service"). A quick web search makes it look like PMRS is a broad standard used in many nations, Australia included.

The walkie talkie units are identical to the FRS units sold in the USA, I think that the spectrum was marginally different but they use a similar carrier squelch system.

FCC, or the local equivalent, rules would make FRS is illegal there just as PMRS is illegal here, but it's unlikely that this is something that would be enforced (especially at the .5W strength of most of the small units) unless you are impinging on frequencies used by the local emergency services. That said... communications equipment is one of the things that customs inspections tend to take a close look at. In fact, they are officially on the restricted import list in many nations.

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Old 07-03-2008, 04:56 AM   #8
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Thanks for all the great comments. I've been looking at Aus eBay and Craigslist, as well as looking into rentals, which seem to be more corporate-oriented. I haven't found out what the 462/467 MHz frequencies are used for down under, but knowing my luck, if we try to surreptitiously use our US radios, it will be on the police band. Not sure I want to go to jail because every cop in a 30 km radius is unexpectedly forced to listen to our arguments over whether or not we missed a turn and whose fault that was
Play dumb- we all do- and being a yank they'll believe you. It will probably only be a worry at Pine Gap.
2 watt hand held UHF radios are about $160 or a bit less and if you have auto comm you can get leads here. Look up autocomm outlets here or at your port of call. Try duty free. Please enjoy the ride. Use the radios in the US for hunting etc.
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Old 07-05-2008, 05:05 PM   #9
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The top of the 467 MHz band is used by the police here in OZ.

Have fun....



Buy an Australian 477 MHz CB radio.....

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Old 07-05-2008, 05:37 PM   #10
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Realize a two way radio service legal in one country is not legal in another. Every country has its own set of frequency allocations and regulations one must abide by in order to broadcast legally.

The 477 megahertz Australian CB radio service was a good suggestion for the original poster.
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Old 07-05-2008, 05:40 PM   #11
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Thanks for all the great comments. I've been looking at Aus eBay and Craigslist, as well as looking into rentals, which seem to be more corporate-oriented. I haven't found out what the 462/467 MHz frequencies are used for down under, but knowing my luck, if we try to surreptitiously use our US radios, it will be on the police band. Not sure I want to go to jail because every cop in a 30 km radius is unexpectedly forced to listen to our arguments over whether or not we missed a turn and whose fault that was
That band is used by the SES (State Emergency Service) and Police in metro areas.

Radio Inspectors are virtually non-existant but the Police may not like it.
Not really an issue if you are only using them in country areas.

Our UHF-CB operates around 477mhz
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Old 07-05-2008, 06:05 PM   #12
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The European equivalent to the U.S. FRS/GMRS is called PMR446. It's not exactly the same but they due both reside in the UHF band.

www.ultimatefrs.com has some good info on FRS, GMRS, MURS & PMR446.
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