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Old 01-15-2012, 07:48 PM   #3076
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I have them and like them, but it is really a matter of personal taste. Some people hate them and think they feel weird. For me they are more comfortable and allow easier access to the shifter with boots on. I got used to the weird feeling of movement. It's hard to know if you'll like them or not without trying them.

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Hello all.

I just sold my Country and replaced it with a Challenge. The Challenge has a bad right peg and was wondering if anyone has personal experience with the Pivot Pegs. I need pegs for sure, but was wondering if the Pivot is the way to go. They seem to be within $40 of the other replacements. Pros? Cons?

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Old 01-15-2012, 11:04 PM   #3077
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Ah, Jester, what rotten luck. How many miles on that bike now?
32k. Will update once the problem has been identified. Might be something to be aware of.
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Old 01-16-2012, 03:26 AM   #3078
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I cant seem to find a answer to my question through the search function.

When I turn the ignition on all my warning lights goes on (for a couple of seconds like it should) except my temperature light, it never goes on, is that correct or is the bulb faulty?

I'm just scared the bulb(I dont know if it is a bulb, maybe LED) is faulty in that way I wll never know when the bike is overheating.

On mine, the temp light flashes VERY briefly to let you know that the LED is OK but it doesn't stay on....that's normal.

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Old 01-16-2012, 03:28 AM   #3079
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I have them and like them, but it is really a matter of personal taste. Some people hate them and think they feel weird. For me they are more comfortable and allow easier access to the shifter with boots on. I got used to the weird feeling of movement. It's hard to know if you'll like them or not without trying them.
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Old 01-16-2012, 03:31 AM   #3080
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Anyone found adjustable clutch and brake levers for the xchallange?
The OEM levers from an 09 X-Country are adjustable and will probably fit the X-Challenge.
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Old 01-16-2012, 06:05 AM   #3081
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AugustWest,

I will give you my $.02.. You can solve the fuel issue cheaper than a TT tank. I found an add on tank that fits over where the charcoal canister used to be, over in the flea market.. If you can't find that, get a rotopack.. I used that for the first year, it's fine, just not as convienient.
I had to replace the air shock, mine leaked, I went thru 3 air pumps before I found one that would work. It eventually ticked me off so bad, I caved and bought a Ohlins. The airshock worked fine, when it worked. If you have one that holds pressure, and you have long enough legs to deal with it when it goes to full extension, I'd stay with it..
As far as the front suspension is concerned, I guess I'm just not a good enough rider to know how bad it is. It seems to me that it would be a budget buster to swap out front forks. So I just ride in blissful ignorance, thinking the front end is ok.
The seat sucks, but I threw a sheep skin on it, and stand up a lot anyway. (on the gravel..)
I found a used tank bag (wolfman) and a used set of rear bags and frames (dirtbagz). (TT Rear rack the large one.)
I had to have risers, I'm 6'5", and standing up so much was killing my back, not just because of the crappy seat. Ha
I also was lucky the PO of my XC had added an after market skid plate, I would have done that right away..
I also got an inexpensive windshield from The Jester. (his posts are above). It works fine for me. I still catch some air, but it is much improved over the original configuration..
I lucked out and found a used TT beak extender. I was almost to the point of making something out of plastic and hanging it on the front. Otherwise you get covered with road dirt, mud, gravel etc, every time it gets wet.
Oh, I added heated grips. I'd do that again. I've used them a bunch..
And, has been mentioned, change out the shift lever. I dropped mine on the left side a time or two, and each time I held my breath untill I determined it was ok. Now I just unbend the cheap one, and have a spare in the bottom of a bag in case I unbend the cheap one one too many times..
I went cheap.. There's lots of XCs that look fantastic, they may even have the air protection and comfort of a big GS, I just didn't want to drop that much $$$$. (plus, as I mentioned before, I am not that good of a rider, I crash a lot, the last thing I wanted to do is buy all the add- ons a second time, ha!)
By the way, I love this bike.. Haven't found anything else out there that fits me and my riding style better..
Hope this helps.
Jeff

Here's a pic.. Maybe not the prettiest bike out there, but I'd take it anywhere.. Ha



This one shows the added tank:



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Hello all,
I have a new XCH coming, probably this weekend. The big GS sold and I'm ready to start building an adventure bike. I'm in Western Montana with lots of gravel roads. I do a lot of day trips but want to build a bike capable of carrying me on extended tours on a budget. The bike has a custom seat, stock skid plate, stock suspension, and a one off Happy Trails pannier rack and cargo plate.
I have $1200-$1600 left to spend for now (depending on who you talk to me or my wife).

Help me prioritize por favor. I've read all of the big XCH threads and have a broad view of what may be needed and what I think I want but I don't see a lot of suggestions on what I should do first, second, third.

I know a lot of you will howl but I am going to make due with the stock suspension for as long as I can, for those still with me the areas to be addressed seem to be:

Fuel capacity (I am considering shelling out for the TT tank right away as I may never be able to afford it again.) Since I am going to have luggage behind I'm not sure I want to carry fuel (rotopacks) over the sub-frame in addition to camping gear etc.

Wind Protection ( I like the Britannia Lynx as it helps solve night time illumination issues as well, but spendy and can't afford it and the tank) Will probably go with a plexi-screen of some sort.

Soft Waterproof Luggage (Enduristan?)

Skid plate and other protection items

Help me spend my remaining cash money wisely. What am I missing? Here's the rub, I'm having shoulder surgery next week so I'll only get to look at it for a while.

Thanks in advance,
A.W.
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Old 01-16-2012, 06:58 AM   #3082
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I have them and like them, but it is really a matter of personal taste. Some people hate them and think they feel weird. For me they are more comfortable and allow easier access to the shifter with boots on. I got used to the weird feeling of movement. It's hard to know if you'll like them or not without trying them.
another +1, like mine a lot, comfortable but also sharp .... ripped the bottom of my trousers!
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Old 01-16-2012, 07:00 AM   #3083
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Brake pads are expensive for the g650x $77 for font pads
if you buy brembo yes, i've used ferrodo, ebc and goldfren on mine, lots cheaper
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Old 01-16-2012, 10:36 AM   #3084
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Brake pads are expensive for the g650x $77 for font pads
a touch expensive, but.... if you consider the life of the bike compared to something like a KTM, where the oil change intervals are about 20% of that of the 'x'.. it equals out that the bmw is actually cheaper to maintain then most bikes.. .just my 2 cents,
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Old 01-16-2012, 03:20 PM   #3085
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I have them and like them, but it is really a matter of personal taste. Some people hate them and think they feel weird. For me they are more comfortable and allow easier access to the shifter with boots on. I got used to the weird feeling of movement. It's hard to know if you'll like them or not without trying them.
I have PivotPegz on the XChallenge and like them, just don't catch your shins on them whilst wearing jeans or shorts
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Old 01-16-2012, 03:27 PM   #3086
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AugustWest,

I will give you my $.02.. You can solve the fuel issue cheaper than a TT tank. I found an add on tank that fits over where the charcoal canister used to be, over in the flea market.. If you can't find that, get a rotopack.. I used that for the first year, it's fine, just not as convienient.
I had to replace the air shock, mine leaked, I went thru 3 air pumps before I found one that would work. It eventually ticked me off so bad, I caved and bought a Ohlins. The airshock worked fine, when it worked. If you have one that holds pressure, and you have long enough legs to deal with it when it goes to full extension, I'd stay with it..
As far as the front suspension is concerned, I guess I'm just not a good enough rider to know how bad it is. It seems to me that it would be a budget buster to swap out front forks. So I just ride in blissful ignorance, thinking the front end is ok.
The seat sucks, but I threw a sheep skin on it, and stand up a lot anyway. (on the gravel..)
I found a used tank bag (wolfman) and a used set of rear bags and frames (dirtbagz). (TT Rear rack the large one.)
I had to have risers, I'm 6'5", and standing up so much was killing my back, not just because of the crappy seat. Ha
I also was lucky the PO of my XC had added an after market skid plate, I would have done that right away..
I also got an inexpensive windshield from The Jester. (his posts are above). It works fine for me. I still catch some air, but it is much improved over the original configuration..
I lucked out and found a used TT beak extender. I was almost to the point of making something out of plastic and hanging it on the front. Otherwise you get covered with road dirt, mud, gravel etc, every time it gets wet.
Oh, I added heated grips. I'd do that again. I've used them a bunch..
And, has been mentioned, change out the shift lever. I dropped mine on the left side a time or two, and each time I held my breath untill I determined it was ok. Now I just unbend the cheap one, and have a spare in the bottom of a bag in case I unbend the cheap one one too many times..
I went cheap.. There's lots of XCs that look fantastic, they may even have the air protection and comfort of a big GS, I just didn't want to drop that much $$$$. (plus, as I mentioned before, I am not that good of a rider, I crash a lot, the last thing I wanted to do is buy all the add- ons a second time, ha!)
By the way, I love this bike.. Haven't found anything else out there that fits me and my riding style better..
Hope this helps.
Jeff

Here's a pic.. Maybe not the prettiest bike out there, but I'd take it anywhere.. Ha



This one shows the added tank:

Nice ride, my sentiments exactly and you have a lot of my mods

Can we have some more pics please (and bigger ones) please
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Old 01-17-2012, 08:55 AM   #3087
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Nice ride, my sentiments exactly and you have a lot of my mods

Can we have some more pics please (and bigger ones) please
Be happy to post some pics.. Anything in particular? The rear gas tank is probably the most unique upgrade. The guy I bought it from (from NJ) actually had several posts about it.. I will try to find them and re-post.
The rest of the stuff, bags, risers, seat cover, air shield, risers, grip warmers, rear rack, beak, gps, hard parts, and skid plate are just standard stuff.

Here's jacksplash's plate that holds the tank:
http://jacksplash.smugmug.com/Motorc...XjwNZ&lb=1&s=A

Here's the tank mounted:

http://jacksplash.smugmug.com/Motorc...7GdYn&lb=1&s=A

Hope those help. I leave it mounted all the time, and just add a gallon of gas occasionally.. It just runs off the vent line into the main tank. So far, no problems at all. (minor leak/seep at the gas cap on the main tank. Not much.)

Jeff
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Old 01-17-2012, 12:46 PM   #3088
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2 miles from home I glanced down to see the oil light flash on.....

I got to work on the bike today and it is not looking good, although it could have been much worse had I not seen the light come on or taken a chance that it was an electrical issue. Unfortunately I have no oil pressure to the engine. Judging by the fact that the oil tank is also full to the brim, my best guess is the engine oil pump has failed leaving the engine without oil and allowing the scavenger pump to pump all the oil to the tank. Having checked the manual this shouldn't be too major a job as the oil pumps are accessed behind the clutch. It could well be the plastic drive gear has failed as this would seem to be a weak point; if so they will all be replaced. Not having a clutch holding tool, and being up to my eyes in it with other stuff, I am going to hand it to the local dealer this time. I guess my shock is going to have to keep on squeaking for a few more months.
There are 2 oil pumps, each driven by a plastic gear (8) from behind the clutch. There is an additional idler gear to drive one of the pumps. Each gear slides over its shaft, slotting over a pin going through the shaft (9) and held in place by a circlip. 1 pump scavenges oil from the bottom of the engine to the tank. The other supplies the engine.



As I suspected the plastic gear to the upper pump (engine supply) has failed. The problem is to understand the cause of the failure. The oil pump shaft was also very tight however the mechanic was unable to confirm the cause - there was no blueing or scoring which would have suggested the shaft seizing and overheating due to lack of lubrication. Not surprising since it runs in engine oil and I am pretty meticulous about oil changes. There was some bruising to the metal on the oil pump cover (7), probably caused by the pin which would have been able to slide out of its hole once the gear had failed. This in turn could have caused the tightness on the oil pump shaft as the cover is thin metal and could be pushed out of shape. Alternatively the oil pump may have been tight for another reason which caused the gear to fail. Basically the cause of the failure is unknown.

The end result will be a complete new oil pump. Around 100 in parts and new filter, oil etc plus around a couple of hours labour. Hopefully the few seconds that the engine was running while I came to a stop, and later when testing the pressure switch, has not resulted in damage elsewhere in the engine but only time will tell.

The good news for everyone else - the plastic gears are not a new part and have been used in all varients of this engine since 1993. This is the first such failure the dealer has seen. They also checked the BMW parts database to see how often the plastic gears were ordered. The result - 0.07 gears ordered per year, approximately 1 gear every 14 years. Not sure whether this was UK only or international but, either way, not something to be worrying about.
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Old 01-17-2012, 01:12 PM   #3089
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How wide is an X tank?

Thanks for the thoughtful responses to my earlier post.

Can someone with an X Tank measure its' width please?
I need to know how wide it is.
Thanks.
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Old 01-17-2012, 01:30 PM   #3090
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Thanks for the thoughtful responses to my earlier post.

Can someone with an X Tank measure its' width please?
I need to know how wide it is.
Thanks.
I don't have the x-tank so can't help with the width but it does fit inside the hepco and becker rack, if that is the reason for the question.

Pictures are on their website.
http://www.hotrodwelding.nl/product.php?id=3
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