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Old 02-15-2012, 02:41 PM   #3181
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also what the stator output like compared to the older f650 models?

just i would hope fit, heated grips, HID kit, GPS and 12v socket to run a 12v compressor and charge batteries.
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Old 02-15-2012, 03:34 PM   #3182
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also what the stator output like compared to the older f650 models?

just i would hope fit, heated grips, HID kit, GPS and 12v socket to run a 12v compressor and charge batteries.
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If you are running a 35W hid instead of the standard bulb you should be fine. A gps takes little power, as does a battery charger. Not sure how much power your grips will use but it handles my heated vest ok.
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Old 02-15-2012, 04:36 PM   #3183
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ok so having look at xchalleneg in few days. lad is doing a swop for my bike if it doesnt sell.

but he was telling me the only modification he saw was an different gear lever as the last owner broke his in a fall.

NOW... assuming this is true there is strong change the gear selector arm could be weakened. i have replaced these on other bikes before and its a 30min job just remove the covers and change the arm.

but how is it on the xchallenge? is it a full engine split job or simply remove the side cover and components?
The latter

But just check the lever & shaft carefully, moving the leaver up and down by hand and do a visual to see if it's centered on the seal/bush

They either break or they don't, it would appear
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Old 02-15-2012, 04:43 PM   #3184
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cheers,

take it its a full engine split if break it?
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Old 02-16-2012, 12:23 AM   #3185
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cheers,

take it its a full engine split if break it?
Yes, which is why many owners have swapped the standard gear lever for something a little more flexible. With the stock lever it is almost pot luck, depending which way an impact comes. I managed to bend the lever twice and now have a steel lever from an f650 single. Others have not been so lucky.
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Old 02-16-2012, 01:29 AM   #3186
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Yes, which is why many owners have swapped the standard gear lever for something a little more flexible. With the stock lever it is almost pot luck, depending which way an impact comes. I managed to bend the lever twice and now have a steel lever from an f650 single. Others have not been so lucky.

I swapped mine out ( at the advice of earlier posts here) for a more malleable lever and ended up bending it the very next ride..

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Old 02-16-2012, 02:46 AM   #3187
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I would check the radiator and then cooling system first to make sure it is all working properly because it doesn't quite sound like it is giving the conditions. My fan would come on in very hot weather, low gear climbs, etc like it was supposed to but never came close to overheating. I found the fine finning of the xch blocks up very quickly in muddy conditions and also with seeds and stuff and would hose mine out from the rear after every ride.

Fitting a Boosterplug and freeing up your exhaust will reduce the heat a bit as well.
cheers guys, thought it must be something a little more than the reported X-C problems... will look intot he cooling system this weeked...
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Old 02-16-2012, 08:33 AM   #3188
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cheers lads

my main concern is i have a heavy foot when changing gear as always wear mx boots so dotn want to break it myself
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:31 AM   #3189
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cheers lads

my main concern is i have a heavy foot when changing gear as always wear mx boots so dotn want to break it myself
Can't see that happening. Most of the engine parts are the same as the 0ld f650. The main difference is the rotor and stator. I would be surprised if the gear change shaft was any different. The problem is the gear lever on the X bikes which is too stiff and transmits force straight to the shaft. If the shift shaft is OK now I doubt you will have a propblem with it.
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:58 AM   #3190
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just got get own bike sold. rather go pick the right xchallenge than trade for one that may not have had easy life
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Old 02-18-2012, 12:15 PM   #3191
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sub frame bolts

I remember being told or reading that the subframe bolts can be a bit weak and could do with replacing with something stronger, if this is true can anyone tell me what the standard bolts are made of and what would be stronger? would stainless or marine grade stainless bolts be better?

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Old 02-18-2012, 03:02 PM   #3192
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I remember being told or reading that the subframe bolts can be a bit weak and could do with replacing with something stronger, if this is true can anyone tell me what the standard bolts are made of and what would be stronger? would stainless or marine grade stainless bolts be better?

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Well somebody correct me if I got this wrong, but I think the bolts are fine. The trouble is that they like to back themselves out and fall off the bike when you're not looking. A little threadlock and you're good, unless you're one of "those guys" and need to do a safety wire job on them before you're happy.
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Old 02-18-2012, 04:19 PM   #3193
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Never had trouble with mine or heard of any worries with the ones around here.

Would prefer the bolt to be the weak point than the rear subframe if there has to be one.
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Old 02-18-2012, 05:17 PM   #3194
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I remember being told or reading that the subframe bolts can be a bit weak and could do with replacing with something stronger, if this is true can anyone tell me what the standard bolts are made of and what would be stronger? would stainless or marine grade stainless bolts be better?

tia
I am with Drone here. Threadlock is your friend. I've lost a few & they are expensive to replace OEM.
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Old 02-19-2012, 07:11 AM   #3195
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Hello

I am a newly owner of an XC and I really need the repair manual. Cam anyone help me? A PDF through email will be the best.

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