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Old 09-06-2013, 12:39 PM   #5251
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so i noticed my coolant hose is scorched yesterday. loosened the header bolts and gave the header a slight nudge upwards. clears the tubing by a fat finger.

this however gives the pipe almost no clearance to the frame a bit further down the pipe, right above the clutch cover.

tried her out this morning and noticed the frame got quite hot. I never checked how hot it got when there was more clearance so I don't really have any reference.

so tell me, is it okay for the frame to get hot. not that I burn my bare fingers on it. but hot enough to want to let go after 5 seconds or so.

i'd say five seconds is safe
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Old 09-06-2013, 01:46 PM   #5252
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Old 09-06-2013, 03:28 PM   #5253
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Out of curiosity how due you like your X compared to the Sertao? Is there a big difference in performance and handling ect?
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Old 09-06-2013, 06:11 PM   #5254
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Out of curiosity how due you like your X compared to the Sertao? Is there a big difference in performance and handling ect?

Hi O'B,
Good question.
My Sertao is not stock. i've done the yz fork conversion and had the forks reworked by HOH and set up for this bike and for my weight. It also has excel wheels front and rear (i changed the stock 17" to an 18"). the abs has been removed , exhaust has been changed to a leo vince. bars have been changed and yadda yadda

the big differences between the two bikes are: the location of the oil tank, the swing arm (sertao has box steel, X has some kind of aluminum thing), frame, air box location (sertao's intake is next to the headlight), exhaust routing, battery location, the shock, the sertao has a larger fuel capacity and a frame that cradles the motor. the sertao has a lower seat height which is nice, heavy duty sub-frame, it also has power outlets, heated grips and a center stand.

the sertao is more comfortable on the highway and is more stable.
the motor is basically the same though i feel like the sertao's motor doesnt seem to be working as hard as the X's motor.

handling is about the same but the big difference is that the ergonomics of the X allow it to be ridden more aggressively than the sertao. i mean, im able to move my body closer to the handle bars while riding the X than i am able to on the sertao. ..

which one is "better"? hmm thats like asking: which one is better; a fork or a spoon? ... by doing what i did to the sertao i made a spork. which is a good thing.

long rant, sorry, hope this answered your question


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Old 09-07-2013, 03:21 AM   #5255
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i'd say five seconds is safe
so your saying that your frame gets hot In that spot as well?
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Old 09-07-2013, 12:02 PM   #5256
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Hi O'B,
Good question.
My Sertao is not stock. i've done the yz fork conversion and had the forks reworked by HOH and set up for this bike and for my weight. It also has excel wheels front and rear (i changed the stock 17" to an 18"). the abs has been removed , exhaust has been changed to a leo vince. bars have been changed and yadda yadda

the big differences between the two bikes are: the location of the oil tank, the swing arm (sertao has box steel, X has some kind of aluminum thing), frame, air box location (sertao's intake is next to the headlight), exhaust routing, battery location, the shock, the sertao has a larger fuel capacity and a frame that cradles the motor. the sertao has a lower seat height which is nice, heavy duty sub-frame, it also has power outlets, heated grips and a center stand.

the sertao is more comfortable on the highway and is more stable.
the motor is basically the same though i feel like the sertao's motor doesnt seem to be working as hard as the X's motor.

handling is about the same but the big difference is that the ergonomics of the X allow it to be ridden more aggressively than the sertao. i mean, im able to move my body closer to the handle bars while riding the X than i am able to on the sertao. ..
So then the extra weight and less power isnt all that noticeble ?

which one is "better"? hmm thats like asking: which one is better; a fork or a spoon? ... by doing what i did to the sertao i made a spork. which is a good thing.

long rant, sorry, hope this answered your question


here are a few pictures of my sertao








So then the extra weight and less power isn't all that noticeble?
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Old 09-08-2013, 04:33 AM   #5257
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XChallenge Plastics

I am curious if anybody out there has a set of XChallenge plastics? No need for the front fender, just looking for the two front shrouds and the rear fender/side panel system.

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Old 09-08-2013, 11:26 AM   #5258
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So then the extra weight and less power isn't all that noticeble?
Right . They are both too big and heavy to be "woods bikes " and neither one of them needs anymore power than they have. Just my opinions. They are excellent machines. I bought my X over a 2014 ktm690 simply because I think BMW makes more reliable motors and better fuel injection . ... and I dont like orange ;)
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Old 09-08-2013, 11:29 AM   #5259
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so your saying that your frame gets hot In that spot as well?
Haven't done the touch test but im pretty sure it does, I mean the header and the oil tank are right there , I can feel the heat on my leg.
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Old 09-09-2013, 11:06 AM   #5260
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Old 09-10-2013, 06:32 AM   #5261
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Old 09-10-2013, 11:55 AM   #5262
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Don't recall as it was 7K miles ago. I do remember that it was a package deal where I got the front, rear and chain for one 'low, low, price'.

This happened to someone else on here and they said something about using loctite to fill in the gap between the splines if there was any play.
Had this happen to me on my X:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=759318

My advice: Stick to OEM.
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Old 09-10-2013, 01:55 PM   #5263
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Firstly, sorry if either of these has been posted before. I can't see it anywhere obvious.
Two questions:
1) My temp light flashes fast 3 times when the igntition is switched on. Does this symbolise anything? EFI fault?
2) Do BMW do a diagnosis manual for it? A friend of mine has a service manual which was no help in diangosing questionno. 1.

Many thanks

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Ollie,

See the snapshot from page 47 of the Riders Manual. There is no fault, just your bike doing its pre-starting routine. Do not attempt to start the motor until the light quits flashing. Never touch the throttle at all during starting. Good riding to ya.



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Hi,

Thanks for the reply. I however know this information already.
I am in particular talking about the temperature light characteristics when the ignition switch is turned on.

I have two friends with these XC's all with different temperature light characteristics:
1) Mine - Flashed 3 times - Sidestand switch red/white soldered together
2) Matts - Flashed once - Sidestand switch in service
3) Tims - Doesn't come on at all - Bike wouldn't start - Sidestand switch in service. We cut his switch wiring up, soldered the red/white together and now his light flashes 3 times but his bike starts.

Dilemma!

We've now tried Matts working sidestand switch on my bike and the temp light still flashed 3 times. Why are these bikes, all being 07 plate X Challenges, all different!!??

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Old 09-10-2013, 08:34 PM   #5264
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Had this happen to me on my X:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=759318

My advice: Stick to OEM.
Ah.... shit. well, at least I know I'm not the only one.
This should be posted at the top of the 650 X Thread Index where it lists other sprockets that fit the bike.
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Old 09-10-2013, 08:42 PM   #5265
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Ah.... shit. well, at least I know I'm not the only one.
This should be posted at the top of the 650 X Thread Index where it lists other sprockets that fit the bike.
I agree.

sorry this happened to you guys. that shit sucks.
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