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Old 05-16-2008, 11:47 AM   #1
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anyone use the SV650 gel seat ? opinions ?

anyone use the SV650 gel seat ? opinions ?

is it better than stock or worse how is it on long rides.

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Old 05-16-2008, 03:37 PM   #2
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Plenty of good saddlemakers out there if you have a few bucks.
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Old 05-16-2008, 06:53 PM   #3
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anyone use the SV650 gel seat ? opinions ?

is it better than stock or worse how is it on long rides.

thanks.
I have it and in my opinion it is not worth it. It gets a lot hotter in the sun and is not that much more comfortable than stock.
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Old 05-16-2008, 08:48 PM   #4
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I have it and in my opinion it is not worth it. It gets a lot hotter in the sun and is not that much more comfortable than stock.
True.. It would be a lot more comfortable, but the heat is a killer. Insant sweaty monkey butt without some kind seat cover. I have a homemade bead seatcover for it.
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Old 05-16-2008, 11:47 PM   #5
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gen1 or 2 sv?

don't do corbin 4 gen 1 unless u have a tiny bubble butt.

anything is better than a gen 2 stock seat.

i put a cavalcade gel insert and then 1/2 in. foam to block the heat issue.
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Old 05-16-2008, 11:58 PM   #6
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Plenty of good saddlemakers out there if you have a few bucks.

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the stocker blows i almost consiering getting a tray of plaster and making a mold of my ass to so I have somthing to mold the foam from for a new seat
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Old 05-17-2008, 05:04 AM   #7
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such as?


the stocker blows i almost consiering getting a tray of plaster and making a mold of my ass
TMI !!!!!!!!
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Old 05-17-2008, 11:36 AM   #8
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ebay and corbin/sargent
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Old 05-17-2008, 01:17 PM   #9
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I have the factory gel and really like it. Two friends have bought them after riding mine. I have done a 700 mile day on mine with no prob. I got one of Bev's sheep skins so the heat is not a prob.

Corbin sucks, I have one for my ST Ducati and have gone back to the not very good stock seat.
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Old 05-19-2008, 07:36 AM   #10
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My Gen 1 SV650N has a Sargent seat on it. I love it, I can ride all day with little to no butt issues. It keeps you where you need to be front to back but its still easy to move around on left to right. I highy recommend one.
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Old 05-19-2008, 12:10 PM   #11
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What's the deal with heat? Do you mean when it sits in the sun, or from riding?
I just got an SV and I am having trouble with my sit bones.
This seat explains why I got such a good deal on the bike.
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Old 05-19-2008, 12:31 PM   #12
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Anecdotally, most of the SV seat discussions I've read almost always advocate the Sargent.
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Old 05-19-2008, 05:10 PM   #13
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What's the deal with heat? Do you mean when it sits in the sun, or from riding?
I just got an SV and I am having trouble with my sit bones.
This seat explains why I got such a good deal on the bike.
It gets hot quickly from the sun and RETAINS heat like crazy. On a hot day it is uncomfortable from the heat. Also, I dont find the seat much more comfortable than the stocker on the best of days, a little difference, but not much.
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Old 05-19-2008, 07:01 PM   #14
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I posted this on sv-portal.com a while back. It is for my sv1000s, but the seat is the same as an sv650.


Corbin vs. Sargent : Finally a real comparison

Naturally I have found the stock seat of my '05 sv1k unbearable as I like to use the bike for touring. After researching quite a bit, I ended up getting the sargent, as most people seemed to prefer it.

Imagine my disbelief when I found the sargent did not find my hind-quarters much needed comfort!

I am 5'10" and 200lbs, and the sargent just didn't work. I then ordered the corbin, which was just installed and tested to my great satisfaction. However, it seems to me that a fair objective comparison is in order:

Sargent seat:

Soft, but supportive foam. The seat is still narrow enough in the front to make reaching the ground with both feet flat easy. The rear of the seat is flatter and wider. The seat seems designed to best fit a taller rider (or at least one with longer legs and arms). The most comfortable place to be is seated toward the rear of the seat. The problem I encountered is that sitting so far back in the seat made the reach for the bars farther. This, however, could serve to benefit by way of increased leg room. To sit towards the front of the seat (tank-humping?) is not very comfortable as you feel where the seat sharply goes from narrow to wide. Though, it is perfectly find for short amounts of time for more sporting riding.

The seat itself is very well made, with a nice carbon fx vinyl. The foam seems to readily isolate the rider from all major vibration. The seat pan even 'looks like' carbon fiber (plastic). I found this seat installed very easy. I ordered it with the matching rear cover, but I did not install it for obvious reasons.

Cliffs notes: Sargent = softer, lighter, better for taller riders.


Corbin seat:

The corbin brand is well known for its very firm (and heavy) foam padding. Their claim is that the shape is most important, and the foam serves to support the rider evenly. The leather and foam are supposed to break in after a few thousand miles. The SV seat was very firm, but seemed well contoured and comfortable. The riding position is a bit differant than the sargent/stock seats. Here, the rider is positioned almost a full inch *lower*! This seat also positions the rider more towards the middle or front of the seat. I found that it was fine to sit front (tank humping) or to move further back. The advantage of this seat would be for a shorter person: The bars are closer and higher relative to the rider, but the pegs are closer. Also note, the corbin is made for riding, not sitting at stop lights. Because this seat too is wider, (also wider in the front) the reach to the ground is slightly more difficult. This still proved no problem for me, but a shorter rider could be affected.

The corbin is available in many materials, most of which are leather (said to break in better over time?) I chose the carbon fx leather, which is really just a leather/vinyl laminate. This surface was nice, but the sargent looked more... uh... carbon fibery. The surface seemed very grippy, so that should keep one from sliding around to much. (Note: The regular leather [which I tested on other bikes with corbins] is much more slippery... better or worse you decide.) Anyways, due to the firm foam on the corbin, one could feel the sv's engine vibes much more. This was really only noticible duyring acceleration, but cruising speeds felt fine. This probably wouldn't be noticed after really getting used to the seat.

Cliffs notes: Corbin = better for shorter people: Firm foam, lower seat, sitting closer to the middle/front.


Anyways, I wouldn't call one seat better than the other, but for me, the corbin was a clear winner because I felt best being lower, with the handlebars seeming higher and closer. The reduced leg room didn't bother me. I also kinda like the firm foam, and the seat shape was perfect. Some of my taller friends would probably prefer the sargent though. One last note, the sargent was a good bit cheaper, but takes 2-3 weeks to get because they are made to order. I was told by a sales rep, that if the seat didn't fit me right, I could send it back, and they would re-carve the seat to match requirements... for FREE... so long as the cover fits back on. Otherwise it would be a pretty good charge I am sure. The corbin also has a matching rear seat available. The sargent was more expensive, but if you buy from the company directly, they have a 30 day money back guarantee. (I bought it from exoticsportbikes.com, which seemed slightly shady, but the thing did come, no order tracking though, and it came in a used box. So, no 30 day return for me ). The sargent only has a rear seat cover available though.

Anyways, I guess I'll sell my sargent (fits 04+ sv650 & sv1000s) with the rear cover and all on the forums somewhere. Just PM me, or check for a classifieds post sometime soon.



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Old 05-20-2008, 09:18 AM   #15
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I have it and in my opinion it is not worth it. It gets a lot hotter in the sun and is not that much more comfortable than stock.
I have it and I think it's WAY more comfortable than stock. It's also a bit higher so it adds a little leg room. I combined mine with an Alaskan Sheepskin pad and I think the combo is awesome. The pad keeps you cool in the summer and warm in the winter. The gel seat keeps you comfy. A good upgrade. Cheap, too.
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