Utards whos riding what

[trackhead]

Originally Posted by Ryman

Damn it trackhead. Just when I was so satisfied with my bike situation, you got me thinking about 450's.

Buy a 450XC. That short stroke motor is a blast to ride. Super revy, instant throttle response, great tranny ratio, feels like a bicycle.

On that note, your 690 will go anywhere a 450 will go. I rode my XR650R on all the same stuff I rode my 250. Only handicap with the XR was after dumping the bike, starting was a chore, but you've got "the button", so that's a non-issue.

Bring your CR250...........

[quota]

Originally Posted by rkclmbr24

Does anyone know a guy named J.D. that has a 12gs and lives in Woodland?

Yes

[MSH]

Originally Posted by trackhead

Only handicap with the XR was after dumping the bike, starting was a chore, but you've got "the button", so that's a non-issue.

The missing button is the main reason I got rid of my XRR. After a crash, its a pretty big deal. Esp if you are in the middle of nowhere.

[trackhead]

Originally Posted by MSH

The missing button is the main reason I got rid of my XRR. After a crash, its a pretty big deal. Esp if you are in the middle of nowhere.

I can usually get mine started in a couple minutes or less. But that said, I'd rather ride the XR where I'm not tipping over as much.

[GISkev]

Originally Posted by Ryman

Damn it trackhead. Just when I was so satisfied with my bike situation, you got me thinking about 450's.

Commander51 traded in his 450 for an XR650R and took 7th overall in the V2R Ironman, and 3rd in his class... *cough* (he's an endurance gorilla, which is decisive on its own accord.)


RYMAN: you won't want a 450 in the wash we'll be in soon if its a wash. BRRRAAAPPPP!

TrackHEED: BL is great on a MTB! I must work or i'd be there on my xr4 which is heavier than a mtb!

MSH: you gotta know the secret handshake.


NOTAR: what up with the handle? are you trying to not poison yer buds w/ second hand smoke?

[harcus]

Originally Posted by trackhead

Buy a 450XC. That short stroke motor is a blast to ride. Super revy, instant throttle response, great tranny ratio, feels like a bicycle.

On that note, your 690 will go anywhere a 450 will go. I rode my XR650R on all the same stuff I rode my 250. Only handicap with the XR was after dumping the bike, starting was a chore, but you've got "the button", so that's a non-issue.

Bring your CR250...........

Thead....

Did you buy an XC in place of an EXC cause that is what you found or what? Since an EXC has lights, etc, that would have made plating easier.

What am I missing?

[NOTAR_520]

The XC has different suspension than even the XCf-W, XC is MX type dual chamber forks and I think the EXC and XC-w have single chamber for the fluid. Cams and power curve are different.

IIRC the XC-w has a lower gear ratio in 1-3 than the XC, then the other gears are higher.

For a TAT type trip I'd rather have the XRR, where some of your hero's ride I'll take a 200SX,lol EXC's are the easiest to street legal, but the XC is more of a dirt shredder. The XC is easier to hammer the whoops too.

GISkev: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxObELla8Ns
no, I don't have one, but I could steal one :)

Originally Posted by harcus

Thead....

Did you buy an XC in place of an EXC cause that is what you found or what? Since an EXC has lights, etc, that would have made plating easier.

What am I missing?

[frog]

There is a reason why most racers are on a 450/530 not a 650. In tight stuff they are faster and even in Baja, where the 650 used to be faster, they are faster. And there are plenty of deep extremly fast sand washes down there.

Yes you can go anywhere you want on the 650 but you will be faster on a 450 and do it with less effort.

BTW the guy that came in 1st and 2nd in Commander51's class were both on 450's.

[NOTAR_520]

What about the crazies on the SE's passing the poor 450's doing 120 mph with flat tires(Great read BTW)

[quote=frog]

Yes you can go anywhere you want on the 650 but you will be faster on a 450 and do it with less effort.

/quote]

[frog]

Originally Posted by NOTAR_520

The XC has different suspension than even the XCf-W, XC is MX type dual chamber forks and I think the EXC and XC-w have single chamber for the fluid. Cams and power curve are different.

IIRC the XC-w has a lower gear ratio in 1-3 than the XC, then the other gears are higher.

For a TAT type trip I'd rather have the XRR, where some of your hero's ride I'll take a 200SX,lol EXC's are the easiest to street legal, but the XC is more of a dirt shredder. The XC is easier to hammer the whoops too.

GISkev: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxObELla8Ns
no, I don't have one, but I could steal one :)

Depends on the xc/mxc. I think the only ones that have dual chamber are the version trackhead has?? Both my 04 and 06 are open chamber forks. And the xc 6th gear is lower then the exc. I just put 5th and 6th from an exc in my 525xc so I could gear lower and still have the same top speed. The first gear in the non-07 450xc is way too tall for slow stuff.

Here ya go

450/525sx 16:32, 18:30, 20:28, 22:26
450/525xc/mxc 16:32, 18:30, 20:28, 22:26, 24:24, 21:18
450/525exc/w 14:34, 17:31, 19:28, 22:26, 24:23, 26:21
450xc some 06 and all 07 14:34, 17:31, 20:28, 22:26, 24:24, 21:18

Edit: 400 exc same as 450exc and 250who cares noone wants a bike that small.

[frog]

[QUOTE=NOTAR_520]What about the crazies on the SE's passing the poor 450's doing 120 mph with flat tires(Great read BTW)

Originally Posted by frog

Yes you can go anywhere you want on the 650 but you will be faster on a 450 and do it with less effort.

/quote]

Good dirt roads. MORE DISPLACEMENT=MORE BETTER
when it gets bumpy, Id rather be on the 525.

[NOTAR_520]

Good one, that's why you have to have MORE than 1! (AR or KTM)

Originally Posted by pluric

Oh, thank you. I think I get it now. Good analogy.

[trackhead]

Originally Posted by harcus

Thead....

Did you buy an XC in place of an EXC cause that is what you found or what? Since an EXC has lights, etc, that would have made plating easier.

What am I missing?

I bought the XC because of the shorter stroke motor, quicker revving (I liked that about my 250), beefier suspension. I figure if I ever do put a bigger tank on it, or 20lbs of shit on the back on a mini-tour, beefier suspension will be nice. XC tranny has the same 1-3 gears as the XCW, then a narrower 4-6. It still only runs at 4900rpm at 60mph with stock gearing. I still haven't ridden it on dirt beyond third gear, and I'll be stuck in 1-2nd all day tomorrow, but that's what I bought it for. I have a Tusk cheapo light kit that makes it easy to pass DOT law.

I like the bike. Easy to work on. Tank comes off really quick, seat is held on with one bolt, carb is easy to get to, shock pops right out, easy to get to the valves, etc, etc.

[NOTAR_520]

Good info, lots of MXC's on sale at KSL.com, tall 1st gear. $2500 03 525MXC's EXC's are running $500+ more.

I'm looking for a donor 250exc, then a BB kit to 355 or 400 for Mav, good torque and 25-30lbs lighter than a 400EXC, super plush to finish it off for a great Utah trail bike. If I find the right 400EXC for her, I'll scrap the 250 idea.

Originally Posted by frog

450/525sx 16:32, 18:30, 20:28, 22:26
450/525xc/mxc 16:32, 18:30, 20:28, 22:26, 24:24, 21:18
450/525exc/w 14:34, 17:31, 19:28, 22:26, 24:23, 26:21
450xc some 06 and all 07 14:34, 17:31, 20:28, 22:26, 24:24, 21:18

Edit: 400 exc same as 450exc and 250who cares noone wants a bike that small.

[MSH]

Hey guys... chime in if you can. Am I too big for a YZ125? 6'2" 185. A guy in Idaho wants my AR for his 2001 YZ 125. Another guy offered me his 2003 KTM 250SX, but wanted some money too. Any thoughts? Can I ride the twosmokes the same places as the fourstrokes? I cant get a two stroke plated right?