ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Riding > Ride reports
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 05-28-2008, 10:51 AM   #31
DR. Rock OP
Part of the problem
 
DR. Rock's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Location: NYfC, yff
Oddometer: 5,528
We crossed the Tennessee river, which we learned later in the evening runs backwards.



Small towns in rural america seem to be turning into ghost towns... I know it's been going on for a long time, but it left an impression seeing it first-hand.

We passed up the gas here, because I thought there would be easy gas in Saltillo where we were planning on spending the night.



Well, there was gas in saltillo, just not where GPS said:



It was down at the marina / trailer park / campground / restaurant / general store / bait shop. It was the only place open it seemed in the whole town. We got a campsite for $7... free laundry. Walked up to the restaurant and was served by a nice waitress with bad teeth. A shame.

Our day's stats:





This was where I was glad we brought the camp chairs . It was a nice site on the river, as long as you photographed only from certain angles, if you know what I mean.



It was an interesting cast of characters living there. We spent the night listening to barges plying the river:



Imagining they were riverboats 150 years ago, but in the morning we saw they weren't... oh well.



Woke up bright and early with clean socks:



Grits for breakfast:



And we're back on our way.

__________________
"I came into this game for the action, the excitement; go anywhere, travel light... get in, get out... wherever there's trouble, a man alone... Now they got the whole country sectioned off; you can't make a move without a form." --Robert De Niro as Archibald 'Harry' Tuttle in Brazil, 1985. The Mobius Trip index | Spot tracking live 4/18-5/4/13 | AdventureLoft™ Tent Space
DR. Rock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2008, 11:21 AM   #32
DR. Rock OP
Part of the problem
 
DR. Rock's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Location: NYfC, yff
Oddometer: 5,528
Into MS





Leaving the pavement of TN:



And into the dirt of MS:



Yeah, baby... this is what I'm talking about... hours of this:



TN was great, especially for LDF to get used to the DRZ... but it felt good to get off our asses and up on the pegs.



Water crossings not so snotty-slippery:





We've lost the power lines along the road... getting more and more remote.



If you do the TAT, you'll likely run into this fellow:



Everyone seems to stop here for gas. He knows about the trail. Told us the previous crew had passed by about two weeks previously. Warned us not to ride the backroads after dark on account of the druggies. Methamphetamine mostly. Hoped we weren't going to try to make it as far as the Casino, cause it was getting late. His son is serving in Iraq. Give our regards if you meet him. Good people.



Turns out it wasn't. Interesting, these roads are seldom travelled, and the signs rarely correlated with the reality. More examples later.



After long days riding, and camping on particularly hard ground at the trailer park, we considered finding a motel near the interstate. They were all dodgey, and the weather was nice, so instead, we stopped at a grocery, picked up some provisions, and headed to Sardis Lake State park. No one camping there. Just beautiful.



11 hours later, making good milage, we racked up some cushion beyond our 200mi/day goal:



Oh yeah.









I love off-season mid-week camping. I really do.



__________________
"I came into this game for the action, the excitement; go anywhere, travel light... get in, get out... wherever there's trouble, a man alone... Now they got the whole country sectioned off; you can't make a move without a form." --Robert De Niro as Archibald 'Harry' Tuttle in Brazil, 1985. The Mobius Trip index | Spot tracking live 4/18-5/4/13 | AdventureLoft™ Tent Space
DR. Rock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2008, 11:23 AM   #33
California
Motorcyclist
 
California's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Location: Lantana, TX...after 56 years in Carmel Valley, Ca.
Oddometer: 2,877
Quote:
Originally Posted by DR. Rock


Why Mobius? It's surface forms a continuous and ongoing path. It forms interconnected links when cut down the center. It's disorienting. It's a simple concept that's hard to describe. Enough rhetoric.

The kernel of the idea of the trip started about 6 months ago. I floated the concept and fine-tuned it in a thread titled: "Dedicated trip bikes: Fly-ride-store-repeat?"
I am totally green with envy! As a geometry/architecture major, I understand the Mobius metaphor completely, and believe you may have touched on the ultimate explanation of why/how we ride. Secondly, my wife and I have been planning the same sort of ride/store/fly,repeat trip for our retirement. The only thing we're going to do differently, is, since I ride a Harley, leave the bike at an HD dealer for service, and then come back and pick it up , days, weeks, months later when it's time to resume the strip. I figure the entire trip, including time at home, will take almost a year!

Congratulations on a great theorum, a great plan, and a great ride report, so far!
__________________
California, aka Leslie V Leslie.

Two roads diverged in a wood, and I
took the one less traveled by,
and that has made all the difference
California is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2008, 09:15 PM   #34
woodworkernyc
dirty
 
woodworkernyc's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2006
Location: PA/albuquerque
Oddometer: 288
Dave, Great report so far!
Love the Mobius-Stip-Model-of-the-Universe metaphor...
(honestly I have no idea what you're talking about)
What I really want to know,
are those Titianium coffee cups?!



Btw - just picked up a set of these on your recommendation.
Guess you're becoming somewhat of a motoguru yourself.


Looking forward to more....
woodworkernyc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2008, 04:36 AM   #35
Questor
More Undestructable
 
Questor's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Location: Diamond Bar, CA.
Oddometer: 3,985
Hello Dr. Rock and LDF.

Nice trip you've got going there.
Obviously very thoroughly researched.
I'm taking notes and following along....

I love the spreadsheet idea for the gear list.
Q~
Questor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2008, 09:47 AM   #36
DR. Rock OP
Part of the problem
 
DR. Rock's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Location: NYfC, yff
Oddometer: 5,528
Thanks for the feedback, California. Good luck on your version of the same, and let me know if we can be of any help, or offer any advice. I've been learning a lot in the process of planning and riding, but it's probably mostly stuff that other people already know... like what to do when you have to stand down a bull in the middle of the road .

Chris: those are NOT titanium coffee cups, though the coffee pot is . They're just the Coleman peak 1 double-walled mugs, with the handles knocked off. I did that because they pack easier, and since it's double-walled, it stays cool on the outside anyway, so you don't really need the handle.

Oh, and it saved 28 grams.

Questor: How's Willy (the whale... not that one!)? Where've you been hiding? Look us up if you ever make it down to the city, eh? PM me your email and I'll send you the gear list file if you want... then you can edit it for yourself rather than creating it from scratch.

And for all who asked, RE: the Andy Strapz pannierz on the dirt bagz racks...

I think the dirt bagz are great. (LDF doesn't like the zippers on hers as much as the roll-top on mine, though) Why did I go with the Andy Strapz? I liked the expandability and even though we were traveling light, I thought it would be useful for at least one of us to be able to stuff a six-pack, or a watermelon in a side bag if we stopped at a grocery store a few miles from our end-of-the-day destination. I also like the top-loading, and I think they're a bit more waterproof than the dirtbagz.

The install of the Andy Strapz on the dirt bagz racks is quite simple. I don't know if I specifically have photos showing it. The bags have straps which velcro together over the top of the seat. Then you attach a second strap to the front and rear of the dirt bagz racks (I used the Rok Straps), and clip it across the lower mid-section of each Expedition Pannier to keep it tight and prevent it bouncing up and down when you go over bumps.

The Dirt bagz racks serve merely as stand-offs to prevent the bags from moving horizontally in towards the rear wheel. they're not actually providing any vertical support.

(I'll get back to the real reporting shortly)

__________________
"I came into this game for the action, the excitement; go anywhere, travel light... get in, get out... wherever there's trouble, a man alone... Now they got the whole country sectioned off; you can't make a move without a form." --Robert De Niro as Archibald 'Harry' Tuttle in Brazil, 1985. The Mobius Trip index | Spot tracking live 4/18-5/4/13 | AdventureLoft™ Tent Space
DR. Rock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2008, 05:51 AM   #37
Mandarax
internet insultant
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Location: gone
Oddometer: 670
Hi Dr. Rock,
while we are already talking equipment: I have a DR-Z with Clarke tank as well and I'm looking for a tankbag that can take my DSLR. I guess yours is from Wolfman. Would a DSLR fit in there (preferably with some room left for appropriate padding)?
Mandarax is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2008, 07:04 AM   #38
Motor 1
Studly Adventurer
 
Motor 1's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Location: 9 miles from the start of the Gap
Oddometer: 531
I just found this report. Dave & Francine, it was a pleasure having u both here. I just told Roxanne to look up this report as I know it will inspire her as well as myself to do an extended trip together this summer. . Great RR & pic's. Keep in touch. Rick
__________________
Brevity is the essence of wit
Traveling with the circus
Tattered Old Men
Ruta del Cakebaker
Motor 1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2008, 07:59 AM   #39
DR. Rock OP
Part of the problem
 
DR. Rock's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Location: NYfC, yff
Oddometer: 5,528
We have the wolfman small expedition tankbags. I have the acerbis E tank adapted for the S. I'm 6'3", so my crotch clears the bag and it sits well secured between my legs when I'm standing, no problem. For LDF, however, for her height, and the way the clarke tank slopes up, that for her to ride standing, we had to place the bag way up on the gas cap. Doable, but the bag lost a little stability. She had just her raingear in there, (mine's heavier with tools), so it wasn't such a big deal for dirt roads, but if we get into some technical riding for any great length of time, we'll have to see how it works.

The bag has the capacity for a SLR, probably a lens as well. I'd test-fit it with a borrowed bag if possible first, especially with the Clarke tank given the weight of the contents and your leg length to see if it's acceptable.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mandarax
Hi Dr. Rock,
while we are already talking equipment: I have a DR-Z with Clarke tank as well and I'm looking for a tankbag that can take my DSLR. I guess yours is from Wolfman. Would a DSLR fit in there (preferably with some room left for appropriate padding)?
__________________
"I came into this game for the action, the excitement; go anywhere, travel light... get in, get out... wherever there's trouble, a man alone... Now they got the whole country sectioned off; you can't make a move without a form." --Robert De Niro as Archibald 'Harry' Tuttle in Brazil, 1985. The Mobius Trip index | Spot tracking live 4/18-5/4/13 | AdventureLoft™ Tent Space
DR. Rock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2008, 08:02 AM   #40
DR. Rock OP
Part of the problem
 
DR. Rock's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Location: NYfC, yff
Oddometer: 5,528
Quote:
Originally Posted by Motor 1
I just found this report. Dave & Francine, it was a pleasure having u both here. I just told Roxanne to look up this report as I know it will inspire her as well as myself to do an extended trip together this summer. . Great RR & pic's. Keep in touch. Rick
Hey Rick! I've been distracted from writing the report by some nice weather this weekend... I'm back on it though. Hope your trip west is going well... you're in WA now, no?
__________________
"I came into this game for the action, the excitement; go anywhere, travel light... get in, get out... wherever there's trouble, a man alone... Now they got the whole country sectioned off; you can't make a move without a form." --Robert De Niro as Archibald 'Harry' Tuttle in Brazil, 1985. The Mobius Trip index | Spot tracking live 4/18-5/4/13 | AdventureLoft™ Tent Space
DR. Rock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2008, 09:02 AM   #41
DR. Rock OP
Part of the problem
 
DR. Rock's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Location: NYfC, yff
Oddometer: 5,528
Minor obstacles overcome

We were clearly in the South. The humidity was higher... We got a little late start, and then realized that we had gained an hour by crossing the time line into central. You know you're on vacation when you don't know what time it is.





Today was the day that we encountered a few set-backs, dealt with them, and reminded ourselves that we were capable of dealing with such things... An exercise in anxiety reduction. That and the fact that we were still making better time than we thought we might, even on the dirt.

Our first obstacle was this:



They must have escaped from a field... unlike the cattle out west who apparantly are much more territorial when it comes to defending their right to be on the road, these eastern varients just ran away.



A little ways further, we encountered a bridge out. No signs, nothing...



Mr. Happy puppet makes his first, but not last appearance for the day, boosting morale, and making the world safe for democracy. Easy go-around that added less than a mile to our day. No biggie.

What next? A downhill, off-camber left hand sweeping curve on loose gravel. The dust had been picking up as the morning moisture burned off in the sun. I'm following LDF pretty close to stay out of her dust-wake. There's a barbed-wire fence on the far side of the curve, I see her questioning her speed going into the turn. She starts to brake, straighten her line, I'm thinking... "her front wheel is going to wash out..." Sure enough, she's scrubbed off a fair amount of speed, but the wheel lets go of the road, and she's down.

Next thing I know, BAM!... I'M DOWN TOO!



How did that happen? Turns out, I was mirroring her actions, and basically while watching her crash, was sort of riding her ride. It was the weirdest thing...

Damage:



I scraped my hand, we spilled a little gas. Shaken up a little. Picked up the bikes, dusted ourselves off. Debriefed.

The accident scene:



Back on our way.

After about another hour of riding, we were on some twisty pavement for a few miles, connecting dirt roads. We picked up the pace a little, and my bike started to feel squirly. I signaled LDF to stop, and looked it over... seemed good. Rode a little further and realized my front tire was low.

Since we were on a blind curve, I rode up to the intersection a ways ahead and stopped. It was flat.



Looked for something to support the bike... rock, log, ... nothing.

We know the drill from flats on the big bikes. Unload luggage, loosened the front axle, and then I just placed the bike on it's side and got the wheel off.



It ended up being near total breakdown of the tube around the valve stem... the tube at first seemed almost rotted, but if I rubbed the grittness off it (probably from the inside of the tire, actually, it seemed healthy:







In retrospect, I think any puncture or tear around the valve stem area has to be a tire/rim slippage issue until proven otherwise. I wasn't running a rim lock on the front (2 on the rear), but there will be one going on when we go back to the bikes in September for sure. Hard front braking with the extra weight of the luggage is just asking for trouble.

Don't want no trouble.

We prayed for better luck:



And tried to salvage some miles from what was left of the day.
__________________
"I came into this game for the action, the excitement; go anywhere, travel light... get in, get out... wherever there's trouble, a man alone... Now they got the whole country sectioned off; you can't make a move without a form." --Robert De Niro as Archibald 'Harry' Tuttle in Brazil, 1985. The Mobius Trip index | Spot tracking live 4/18-5/4/13 | AdventureLoft™ Tent Space
DR. Rock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2008, 10:15 AM   #42
DR. Rock OP
Part of the problem
 
DR. Rock's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Location: NYfC, yff
Oddometer: 5,528
MS Levees

We spent the rest of the day playing catch-up:

Riding on the levees in MS...



Getting comfortable with speed on gravel again .





__________________
"I came into this game for the action, the excitement; go anywhere, travel light... get in, get out... wherever there's trouble, a man alone... Now they got the whole country sectioned off; you can't make a move without a form." --Robert De Niro as Archibald 'Harry' Tuttle in Brazil, 1985. The Mobius Trip index | Spot tracking live 4/18-5/4/13 | AdventureLoft™ Tent Space
DR. Rock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2008, 10:46 AM   #43
Mandarax
internet insultant
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Location: gone
Oddometer: 670
Quote:
Originally Posted by DR. Rock
I'd test-fit it with a borrowed bag if possible first, especially with the Clarke tank given the weight of the contents and your leg length to see if it's acceptable.
Thanks for the info. Getting my hands on a specimen will be hard, I'm living on the other side of the big water in the old world.
Mandarax is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2008, 11:16 AM   #44
DR. Rock OP
Part of the problem
 
DR. Rock's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Location: NYfC, yff
Oddometer: 5,528
Another obstacle

This one made me laugh:



Closer...



So the guy is clearing some trees at the side of the road. We haven't seen anyone for miles. It started to seem like the only vehicles on these roads were the occasional piece of heavy equipment that was there to keep the road open for.... what... heavy equipment to be able to ride in to keep the road open?

So we sit there for a couple of minutes waiting for him to acknowledge us, maybe stop throwing tree limbs around for a few seconds while we passed... but Noooooo.

The rig is loud, the cab is closed, maybe he's got earplugs in, I don't know. We're just out of his line of sight. We honk our horns, wave... nada. He moved forward a little on his own, and finally we just timed it, and scooted around behind him.



That was nearly the extent of our social interaction with other humans for the day.

__________________
"I came into this game for the action, the excitement; go anywhere, travel light... get in, get out... wherever there's trouble, a man alone... Now they got the whole country sectioned off; you can't make a move without a form." --Robert De Niro as Archibald 'Harry' Tuttle in Brazil, 1985. The Mobius Trip index | Spot tracking live 4/18-5/4/13 | AdventureLoft™ Tent Space
DR. Rock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2008, 11:26 AM   #45
DR. Rock OP
Part of the problem
 
DR. Rock's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Location: NYfC, yff
Oddometer: 5,528
Over the Mississippi and into Arkansas

The casino is the approved lodging for those doing the TAT on the schedule that Sam has laid out. We passed on it, and figured we could pack some more miles in for the day despite our earlier delays.





Welcome to Arkansas, indeed.



The traffic was almost like home:

__________________
"I came into this game for the action, the excitement; go anywhere, travel light... get in, get out... wherever there's trouble, a man alone... Now they got the whole country sectioned off; you can't make a move without a form." --Robert De Niro as Archibald 'Harry' Tuttle in Brazil, 1985. The Mobius Trip index | Spot tracking live 4/18-5/4/13 | AdventureLoft™ Tent Space
DR. Rock is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 05:11 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014