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Old 07-24-2008, 04:04 PM   #1
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Guys-

I am planning a long trip just in the US and going through California, Nevada and Colorado. I have done some research and wanted to make sure what I am reading is right.

I am assuming I can carry a unloaded handgun that is locked in a case of some sorts through all the states I mentioned and not be breaking any laws. At least that's what I think the laws are.

Any comments are appreiated

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Old 07-24-2008, 07:21 PM   #2
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I'm not sure if a forum is the best place for that sort of info, since getting it wrong could have major ramifications for you. I suggest visiting the website for the law enforcement agency for each state to see if there is information, or calling them directly. You want to look for/ask about law pertaining to "peaceable journey".

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Old 07-24-2008, 07:28 PM   #3
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ianal! I think you are right, Personally I would not be at all concerned about carrying an unloaded weapon. I'm from Nevada, and I live in California, no problems there that I've ever heard of. Put the clip in though and you have some issues. Usually just to be extra careful I store the ammo completely seperately.

Aside from that, there are certain municipalities, San Francisco comes to mind, where handguns are illegal. I dunno if you can travel through.

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Old 07-24-2008, 07:56 PM   #4
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Guys-

I am planning a long trip just in the US and going through California, Nevada and Colorado. I have done some research and wanted to make sure what I am reading is right.

I am assuming I can carry a unloaded handgun that is locked in a case of some sorts through all the states I mentioned and not be breaking any laws. At least that's what I think the laws are.

Any comments are appreiated

thanks,

Bodi
You're good to go in California with the setup you have described. Can't speak for the other states.
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Old 07-24-2008, 08:13 PM   #5
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LOL so much for being UNITED states of America.
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Old 07-24-2008, 09:21 PM   #6
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I think you'd be pretty safe in CO as well. I've been planning on getting a gun for hunting trips. Hunting/shooting is pretty common everywhere in the state really, so an unloaded gun should be AOK. Have a good ride!

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LOL so much for being UNITED states of America.
Yea, it's called state's rights and it's what this country was founded on. That's why every state has it's own complete legal and governmental system, they are designed to operate as separate entities with their own laws and jurisdictions. But of course the federal government would like you to think otherwise
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Old 07-25-2008, 06:19 AM   #7
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Aside from that, there are certain municipalities, San Francisco comes to mind, where handguns are illegal. I dunno if you can travel through.
I don't think this is ture anymore since the Supreme Court struck down the ban on handguns in DC. (Said second ammendment right is extended to individuals not just militias). But like others said consult check the states laws before you go.

ref: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...062300649.html
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Old 07-25-2008, 06:45 AM   #8
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Don't confuse the right to keep [arms] with the right to bear (as in transport, carry, wear) among several jurisdictions. It is still a varied set of rules out there. 1st guy above gave good advice.
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Old 07-25-2008, 08:19 AM   #9
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18 U.S.C. sec. 926A

18 U.S.C. sec. 926A

§ 926A. Interstate transportation of firearms


Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.

emphasis added by me

the kicker I understood about this is that some states (i.e. MA, NY, NJ), say that if you stop for any reason while passing thru on your way "...from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm...", you fall out of the Fereral law's protection. Including but not limited to overnight in motel, gas stop, piss stop, etc etc.

hell I hear Boston cops are busting people who transfer planes at Logan with a checked firearm in their CHECKED luggage.
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Old 07-25-2008, 10:33 AM   #10
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Again, you would be best served by talking directly to law enformcement agencies in the states you plan on traveling through. I live and go to school in NY, and only have a rifle, but know that people can't bring up a handgun from another state, even if all they want to do is keep it locked up and take it to the firing range to go shoot. So I'd be very careful. And of course be upfront with any LEO who pulls you over. I also would not ride your bike to the range with a rifle on your bike. And yes, I did ask a sheriff that.

I need to start worrying about this, as I plan on getting a pistol when I turn 21 in a few months.
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Old 07-25-2008, 11:19 AM   #11
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Goto the N.R.A web site.You'll find what you need.
Why your at it,if you aren't a member join,so questions like this don't have to be asked.
I know in a state like mine you need a permit to have a handgun.You can't drive,fly,ride,or walk thru it with out a pistol permit.If you do have a permit from another state the state your travel'n thru might honor it.
Exceppt for some intercitys you can travel thru the USA with an unloaded longgun.A pistol grip shotgun might fit the bill.
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Old 07-25-2008, 11:23 AM   #12
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Again, you would be best served by talking directly to law enformcement agencies in the states you plan on traveling through. I live and go to school in NY, and only have a rifle, but know that people can't bring up a handgun from another state, even if all they want to do is keep it locked up and take it to the firing range to go shoot. So I'd be very careful. And of course be upfront with any LEO who pulls you over. I also would not ride your bike to the range with a rifle on your bike. And yes, I did ask a sheriff that.

I need to start worrying about this, as I plan on getting a pistol when I turn 21 in a few months.
well LEO's aren't always the best informed folks on laws, believe it or not.

I'd suggest an email to the atty general's office in the states you intend to pass thru. Ask for a Letter explaining the correct way to transport thru their state.

I had to do this way back when CCW's were still fairly rare, I was stopped by Barney (Fife, not the purple socialist ) out in the boonies, who didn't want to accept reciprocity as a fact. So we went to town to clear things up. PITA

After that, I carried a copy of a LETTER from the state's atty general with me ... showing that provided all the clarification required.

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Old 07-25-2008, 11:41 AM   #13
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well LEO's aren't always the best informed folks on laws, believe it or not.

I'd suggest an email to the atty general's office in the states you intend to pass thru. Ask for a Letter explaining the correct way to transport thru their state.

I had to do this way back when CCW's were still fairly rare, I was stopped by Barney (Fife, not the purple socialist ) out in the boonies, who didn't want to accept reciprocity as a fact. So we went to town to clear things up. PITA

After that, I carried a copy of a LETTER from the state's atty general with me ... showing that provided all the clarification required.

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Roger that!!!!
I was in the gun buisness for 8 years and most cop's[not all]don't know firearm laws at all,and will not beleave you at all!
I know in New York there was a State Trooper that wrote a gun laws book for New York,and it was out standing.I still to this day carry a copy in the glove box of my truck and a copy at the bottom of my tank bag.I will go out and get it,so i can post the name and author.I have an unrestricted permit and had to jump thru hoops to get,more then most law enforcment officers did to get there job.I always thought they should have cops go thru the same course us civilans did.
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Old 07-25-2008, 10:37 PM   #14
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I am assuming I can carry a unloaded handgun that is locked in a case of some sorts through all the states I mentioned.
I take it you are heading to some sort of competition event, otherwise if for personal protection, of what use is an unloaded gun in a locked case?
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Old 07-26-2008, 12:21 AM   #15
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There's a lot of good info on carry and transport laws here; http://www.handgunlaw.us/
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