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Old 02-04-2013, 02:18 AM   #1141
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The only possible issue for a learner on the SV650 might be the low-down
torque. New riders usually don't have the smoothness needed for gentle
launches on a twin, and letting go of the throttle suddenly can also get
them in trouble.

I know I've had issues with that when I got my Ninja 650R,
but my first ride was from a dealership 60 miles of curvy roads
from home!

But after the first few days, it was all peachy.

I remember tho that I did NOT have issues feathering the throttle
on a friend's ZX6R (636) and the FZ6S (Fazer), they're both a lot
smoother initially, but stay away from high revs!
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Old 02-05-2013, 05:00 PM   #1142
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CRAP, totally thought I had subscribed and didn't. ANYWAY

Thanks a bunch for all the replies guys. I definitely see the school of thought about starting on a smaller, less intimidating bike, but I'd just worry about outgrowing it within 6 months and then what are you gonna do? A bike would be a major investment for us in our current situation, but as I ride everywhere, she wants to be able to come along. (I learned with 0 experience and no class on an 1100 cruiser, so I am a terrible example (and I did eventually take the class and unlearn bad examples).

She will take the motorcycle class before she does anything, so she'll have that under her belt. My other thought was to see about one of the new Honda 500s, as that would also be in that grey area between beginner bike, and everyday rider.

No cracks about me having no class either!
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Old 02-05-2013, 05:20 PM   #1143
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Ninja 500 a good option too.
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:40 AM   #1144
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I taught 2 of my friends on there sv's as well. Using the msf course as my guide, one guy had absolutely no experience but did just fine. I say go for it. Riding anything is intimidating for a new rider. The sv is a bike you can learn on and keep riding for a very long time.
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Old 02-06-2013, 08:15 AM   #1145
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Thanks to discoganya...nice find on the windscreen fairing.






About $23.00 delivered.





I changed the bike from blue to red.


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Old 02-07-2013, 11:32 AM   #1146
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I changed the bike from blue to red.
Looking good there, TrashCan. You changed the bike color from blue to red to match a $23 windshield ?
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:40 AM   #1147
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Looking good there, TrashCan. You changed the bike color from blue to red to match a $23 windshield ?


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Old 02-08-2013, 03:28 PM   #1148
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Modify or sell?

I like my SV650S a lot. It's light, flickable, and the engine sounds great with a pipe. It's fast enough to be fun but not stupid fast. What I dislike is the crouched over on the clipons, feet up and back uncomfortable (to me) riding position. I'm riding with guys now on ADV bikes and sport tourers, and I want to take some longer trips. I did a 350 mile day with them and almost put my bike in the classifieds that night.

I bought a custom CNC top triple for 50 mm USD forks. My plan is to buy a complete GSXR front end and a Penske rear shock. The triple is drilled for handlebar clamps, so I would run dirt bars. That should solve the crouched over position and low budget suspension problem. Then I would change to SV650N rearsets or find something custom. Because of ground clearance, I can't lower the pegs too much. They would never be as low and forward as, say, a WeeStrom.

This would not be cheap. I think all in, the mods would cost about 2 grand. This means I would have over $5500 in a bike worth around $3500. It would be a very fine bike, though.

So, what do say? I rode a Versys and it fit great. Should I mod the SV, or sell it and buy something else?

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Old 02-08-2013, 05:19 PM   #1149
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I'm 6'3", I put MX bars and lowered Buell pegs on my streetfighter and I find it pretty comfy. Not as comfy as my KLR though. I think my KLR is more comfy than a Versys.
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Old 02-09-2013, 02:24 AM   #1150
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Sodapop. A grand idea and worthy project, but that's a lot of scratch for the mods you want to do. get a SV650N put on a PUIG WINDY wind screen and have a ball. or get the Vstrom.
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Old 02-09-2013, 07:52 AM   #1151
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Don't forget you'll recover some of the cost if you sell your SV front end. I remember reading about someone who did the swap and almost broke even.

OTOH, the Versys would probably let you hang with the ADV bikes in places the SV wouldn't.
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Old 02-09-2013, 10:56 AM   #1152
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Modify or sell?

I like my SV650S a lot. It's light, flickable, and the engine sounds great with a pipe. It's fast enough to be fun but not stupid fast. What I dislike is the crouched over on the clipons, feet up and back uncomfortable (to me) riding position. I'm riding with guys now on ADV bikes and sport tourers, and I want to take some longer trips. I did a 350 mile day with them and almost put my bike in the classifieds that night.

I bought a custom CNC top triple for 50 mm USD forks. My plan is to buy a complete GSXR front end and a Penske rear shock. The triple is drilled for handlebar clamps, so I would run dirt bars. That should solve the crouched over position and low budget suspension problem. Then I would change to SV650N rearsets or find something custom. Because of ground clearance, I can't lower the pegs too much. They would never be as low and forward as, say, a WeeStrom.

This would not be cheap. I think all in, the mods would cost about 2 grand. This means I would have over $5500 in a bike worth around $3500. It would be a very fine bike, though.

So, what do say? I rode a Versys and it fit great. Should I mod the SV, or sell it and buy something else?

Thanks.




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Easily done, and not nearly as expensive as you estimated. Here are some tips:

1) Take your time aquiring the GSXR parts. Often if you piece together everything, you'll end up spending much less. Also, there is a strong market for used stock SV parts, and you'll recapture some funds that way as well.
2) Make sure to get the GSXR front with the correct spring rate for you. They vary in length as well.
3) 2005 GSXR1000 upper triple for instance fits the 2006-2007 GSXR600-750 fork offsets perfectly, allow the ignition lock to work (albeit straight ahead) and can be drilled to add risers for naked SV bars

Here is a picture when I first did the conversion, with risers added to a stock GSXR upper triple



Later went to a custom triple and 3-1/2" rise clipons. Nearly the same as the bars but a cleaner look (and sold the drilled upper/bars)


Yoi can also lower the footpegs cheaply with Buell pegs. I ended up having some custom low pegs machined.

The SV makes a VERY comfy all-day twistys bike
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Old 02-10-2013, 02:10 AM   #1153
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2) Make sure to get the GSXR front with the correct spring rate for you. They vary in length as well.
In case you were wondering what the differences were...

http://www.svrider.com/forum/showthread.php?t=135430

Someone has done a great job compiling the information already at the top of that thread. :)
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:08 PM   #1154
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CRAP, totally thought I had subscribed and didn't. ANYWAY

Thanks a bunch for all the replies guys. I definitely see the school of thought about starting on a smaller, less intimidating bike, but I'd just worry about outgrowing it within 6 months and then what are you gonna do? A bike would be a major investment for us in our current situation, but as I ride everywhere, she wants to be able to come along. (I learned with 0 experience and no class on an 1100 cruiser, so I am a terrible example (and I did eventually take the class and unlearn bad examples).

She will take the motorcycle class before she does anything, so she'll have that under her belt. My other thought was to see about one of the new Honda 500s, as that would also be in that grey area between beginner bike, and everyday rider.

No cracks about me having no class either!
I've been riding for 20 years, and bought my '99 SV brand new, and still haven't outgrown it or gotten tired of it yet! Other bikes have come and gone but I still have that one!

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Old 02-10-2013, 01:58 PM   #1155
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I just found a full gsxr front end with everything I need for 800 except speedo and am jumping on it myself. I have an N but its got lowered bars. Should make the bike juuuust about perfect. Nice to see someone drilled the stock triples for bars as that is my intention as well.
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