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Old 06-27-2008, 01:25 PM   #1
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PA, MD, VA, WV Routes (Dirt Roads)

I road these routes down to the BMW Xplor (tracks and routes from that event are not included) event in Charlottelsville, VA from Princeton, NJ (I stared the routes at X3Start waypoint).

The routes actually start in Frenchtown, NJ.

The routes include some great dirt roads, twisites and backroads. All routes worked flawlessly (off-road navigation).

Here's a summary:
PA: great rural dirt roads through Michaux, the mountains and beyond. Ridge road is long and great! All legal, no gates, all fun.

MD: farm land dirt roads, some nice hills, some local forest to check out, near to Greenridge a worth while jaunt. Route to Greenridge included.

VA: nice twisties, farm roads and deep gravel with a bunch of houses. Roads flowed nicely, no traffic. Skyline drive is great but speed limit sucks, road down from Skyline into Charlottesville is really nice.

WV loop: includes roads around Seneca Rocks, Spruce Knob. Great roads, a few nice gravel roads and mountain roads where you have to open and close cattle gates! Can't go wrong with any road in that area.

Green flag wayponts are dirt roads that may or may not be along the route.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...S%20Routes.zip

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Old 08-08-2008, 09:15 PM   #2
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ok, 400 plus views and 115 downloads on a proven route with tracks and no replies?

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Old 08-09-2008, 01:41 AM   #3
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ok, 400 plus views and 115 downloads on a proven route with tracks and no replies?

I guess folks are too busy drooling and dreaming over the possibillity of riding these routes or better yet maybe they are out riding them! I am taking off right now for the WVA Border and will use some of the points around Seneca.Will let you know how it goes upon my return. Thanks for putting all this great info out here!
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Old 08-19-2008, 10:29 AM   #4
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ok, 400 plus views and 115 downloads on a proven route with tracks and no replies?

sorry, i would have replied sooner had i found it earlier.

now to covert this to a roll chart....


actually, i do have a question (if you are still checking on this thread)

how much of the route through PA is dirt? it looks like it's all pavement until you get to MD/VA area.
ridge rd looks fun.
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Old 08-19-2008, 11:48 AM   #5
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When I try to open it, it says "invalid mapsource file"
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When I try to open it, it says "invalid mapsource file"
Opened right up with MS Ver 6.13.7.
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Opened right up with MS Ver 6.13.7.
I have 6.14.1 so maybe thats the problem. I tried going back to the older version but then I can't open MS at all.
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I have 6.14.1 so maybe thats the problem. I tried going back to the older version but then I can't open MS at all.
i just used an online viewer that's based off of google maps. it's not the best, but it works just to get an overview.

http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/
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i just used an online viewer that's based off of google maps. it's not the best, but it works just to get an overview.

http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/
I tried that and I get this "No valid GPS data detected"
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I tried that and I get this "No valid GPS data detected"
send me your email and I can send you a Garmin gdb file
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sorry, i would have replied sooner had i found it earlier.

now to covert this to a roll chart....


actually, i do have a question (if you are still checking on this thread)

how much of the route through PA is dirt? it looks like it's all pavement until you get to MD/VA area.
ridge rd looks fun.
Actually, the most remote and best sections of dirt start at Ridge Rd in PA. It's mostly dirt from Ridge Rd all the way to MD.

Dirt roads in MD and VA have a lot of houses along them compared to PA.

To get more dirt in MD I suggest going up to Greenridge Forest, MD. See optional route.

Pressed for time I cut a lot of dirt out in VA but the route we took down to Skyline Dr was nice.
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I tried that and I get this "No valid GPS data detected"


i had no issues uploading it. sorry
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i did X3, X4 and most of X5 friday and yesterday.

the route through Michaux (ridge rd) was pretty cool, just VERY rough in the beginning. i couldn't keep anything strapped down it seems. i'm still mourning the loss of my water bottle and gas can.

the MD part i wasn't so crazy about. there were some awesome dirt roads, but it seems like in order to connect the dirt roads you had to loop back over and over and over. a few of the dirt roads were pretty washboarded and there were all kinds of potholes. it would have been ok if i didn't have all my gear with me. the roads are also very narrow and 2 way. i came upon several vehicles coming the other direction and had to squeeze into the ditch or against the embankment on the side to get around them.

i LOVED the VA route. once again, it seems to go out of it's way to get dirt roads in, but the dirt in VA was the best. I even took a few side trips just to run down more roads. i actually caught myself having a blast back there too. had i not been alone i would have been backing it in a lot more and worrying less.

i wish i would have made it into WV, but i was tired and didn't feel like running pavement all the way out there when i had about 300 miles to get back home already. if the route was as convoluted as it is in MD and VA. i'm thinking that if i wasn't alone and therefore preoccupied with "how long will it take for someone to find my body" should something go wrong i would have enjoyed it more.

overall a good route though. i think i'll go back to michaux a few times (and with less crap strapped to the bike)
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Thanks for the notes, can you provide some tracks and waypoints so I can improve the routes?


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Thanks for the notes, can you provide some tracks and waypoints so I can improve the routes?


Thanks,


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i didn't really add any waypoints, and because i've only had it a few days i did a dumb and deleted all my tracks on tuesday while trying to reset my trip data.
I'll check again when I get home to see if i actually saved it all, but i'm not hopefull right now.

i'll try and match it up against a better map than the base one and find the water, gas, and supply stops i made.
i did take note of a winery along the way. it was located on a pretty nice dirt road named axeline rd. (i think it's already a waypoint on the list, but you bypass it to follow the route)

Any idea where i can get a better map thant hebase map for cheaper than garmin wants to sell it to me? (yes i'm a cheap bastard)
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