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Old 08-27-2013, 01:09 PM   #4441
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G'day Seth. I know you have the black frame bike but I was under the impression that the 690 orange frame bike had the same forks as the EXC's according to part no.s on the fiche?
I have the gray frame:


EXC forks will slide right into the 690 triples. my suspension was reworked and lengthened to R height but I would like to go for the full 300mm setup. Its possible the forks are at the same as the EXC's but I know the rotors and brake masters are different. The caliper and caliper mount are different to accommodate the bigger rotor on the 690...but event that I would have to check. If the forks are the same then they have been reworked for significantly less travel.
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Old 08-27-2013, 01:15 PM   #4442
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The 2009 690R is listed as having forks with part # 14187E4101 while the 2009 450 EXC is listed with fork part #14187E0601. The 2012 690R forks are listed as 14187L1001 while the 2012 500EXC is listed under 14187L6901. So they would appear to be different.
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Old 08-27-2013, 02:04 PM   #4443
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The 2009 690R is listed as having forks with part # 14187E4101 while the 2009 450 EXC is listed with fork part #14187E0601. The 2012 690R forks are listed as 14187L1001 while the 2012 500EXC is listed under 14187L6901. So they would appear to be different.
Ahhh...a bit more research shows that you are correct.

Even though the outers are the same length, judging by the compression adjustment tube, the EXC is 520mm long, the earlier 690's were 495mm and the latest 690 is 470mm long...so the newer versions have lost 50mm travel.

This is part no. 30 on the microfiche.

I have an idea that the black frame models had the 470mm version forks as well and the orange had 495mm?
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Old 08-27-2013, 02:35 PM   #4444
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Ahhh...a bit more research shows that you are correct.

Even though the outers are the same length, judging by the compression adjustment tube, the EXC is 520mm long, the earlier 690's were 495mm and the latest 690 is 470mm long...so the newer versions have lost 50mm travel.

This is part no. 30 on the microfiche.

I have an idea that the black frame models had the 470mm version forks as well and the orange had 495mm?
The 2008's were all "E" models and all had 250mm suspension iirc. The R came out in 2009 with 275 mm travel. The newer bikes are all 250mm I think.
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Old 08-27-2013, 03:37 PM   #4445
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good stuff o'large one,



but i just don't really give a fuck an deal with it.
ha, nice and I hears ya on this one...I've read and read and read and it just hurts to read anymore. When I changed from my XR650L to the 690...the first thing I noticed was how stable and smooth the 690 was on the gravel/dirt roads. I couldn't beleive that I could continue doing the same 120kph speed from tarmac directly onto the dirt (so handling was primo in comparision)...then cracking it open to 160k and still on dirt/gravel was just a freak show.

The main complaint for me is that its the slow square edge, slow speed corrugated roads that make the front feel hard...I would love to resolve that...but cost/hassle/time etc...so I try not to go slow, and that solves the issue. This bike is fast, and is designed for it.
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Old 08-27-2013, 05:25 PM   #4446
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The 2008's were all "E" models and all had 250mm suspension iirc. The R came out in 2009 with 275 mm travel. The newer bikes are all 250mm I think.
100% correct..
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:45 PM   #4447
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My 08's was one of the first in the USA. I never had a problem wit h the efi or fuel pump for 7000 miles. Got some dirty fuel in WA on the safari and seized the stock. Put a used pump from a berg in and that one is still in there...berg hoses and all.
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Old 08-28-2013, 06:15 AM   #4448
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Put a used pump from a berg in and that one is still in there...berg hoses and all.
Do you know which one?

What I am concerned about is switching to a CA Cycleworks pump but having that one fail on me (which hasn't happened to me, but I've heard it happening.)
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Old 08-28-2013, 08:38 AM   #4449
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Do you know which one?

What I am concerned about is switching to a CA Cycleworks pump but having that one fail on me (which hasn't happened to me, but I've heard it happening.)
The betgs use the same exact pump as the 690. I have a ca cyclewerks to put in but have not yet. I have not heard of a single ca pump failing yet.
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Old 08-28-2013, 09:11 AM   #4450
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The betgs use the same exact pump as the 690. I have a ca cyclewerks to put in but have not yet. I have not heard of a single ca pump failing yet.
I posed the CA Cycleworks FI pump failure question on my my FI Thread and have heard no failure responses. I have more than 7K miles on my CA pump and it's working great. I no longer carry a spare.
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Old 08-30-2013, 03:13 PM   #4451
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I carry a CA Pump as a spare but thinking of changing over soon as my standard pump has done 23000kms.
Just maybe easier to change out during a service than piss about on a ride, I think I have had good value out the first one.

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Old 08-30-2013, 03:14 PM   #4452
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On the TK Memorial ride for the first time I had my tank bag bounce forward and turn my key off, I had read about this before but in 23000kms never had it happen. Of course once it happened it did it again 4 times, each time catching me out in the worst sections with riders right behind me, anyway time for another mod.
Put this plate in, that should stop it.




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Old 08-30-2013, 03:17 PM   #4453
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I carry a CA Pump as a spare but thinking of changing over soon as my standard pump has done 23000kms.
Just maybe easier to change out during a service than piss about on a ride, I think I have had good value out the first one.

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My original pump only failed because I didn't filter my fuel enough. When we got it out of the tank and tapped it with a hammer while applying power it spun back to life...though didnt sound so hot.
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Old 09-02-2013, 06:07 AM   #4454
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Just picked up a new '13 690. Does anyone know if the Aussie '13 models need the 2nd-3rd gear mod doing.
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Old 09-03-2013, 05:29 AM   #4455
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Rad braces

I was talking to a buddy today who has a '10 model...he has ordered a great set of radiator braces from an English shop called Rapid Moto.

4mm thick Ali, cost him about $150 including the shipping. I was trying to post things with the link but can't get it happening for some reason. Looks like a great bit of protection for the bike.

http://www.rapid-moto.com/ktm-690-en...or-braces.html

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