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Old 10-11-2008, 12:46 AM   #166
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I like the south of Israel a great deal. I like the north I and the center. I just don't like Tel Aviv with it's big city mentality and GO GO Go living style.
Parts of Israel still resemble how things were during those anciant times of the Bible. In others you have to try and let your imagination do the work for you. A week ago we rode to Bet Shean in the the east This is a very anciant city that is mentiond in the book of Joshua and in the 1st book of Samuel ws the city were the body of King saul was presented after he lost the battle on mount Gilboa. The whole city has been dug and is quite amazing to walk through ( though it is from a later period , Roman and mostly Bizantine). They have created a light and sound spektical that really allowes one to walk around and get a feeling that there is still a living city around you with all it's hussle and bustle

P.S As my wife and I were in New Zealand in 2003 (Mostly the south island) I can tell you with some confidance that NZ is really unique and very far from what Israel looks like. I wouldn't mind having some of that NZ beautiy arond here!
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Old 10-11-2008, 12:50 AM   #167
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one more from Bet Shean
And one of the bike on this trip as we are still part of the ADVrider
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Old 10-11-2008, 03:56 AM   #168
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Hi dear fellows,

I wanted to share with you my experience so far with the BIG one. I own a 750 and I will be soon getting a mint 800 of 96. So, As someone posted above, it is true KLX650 upside downs fit the 750 like a glove, no machining required, same bearings too. I have fitted these to my 750 and i will transfer them to the 800 soon-ish.
Its is by far the best mod handling wise to the bike. Very stable at all speeds even with a 20 year old back shock. I didnt even change springs up front, but i cant tell if they were the originals as i bought the forks from ebay.

Another interesting little thing. The 750 (and i guess the 800 too) respond extremelly well to ditching the airbox and fitting clamp-on KNs. Havent dyno'ed yet, but changed the main jets with a pair of 130 i had lying around and attached the KNs to a plastic tube of about 15cm long and 5 in diameter, which in turn where fitted to the carbs by a very non permanent sleeve made out of old inner tyre tube. Not the best craftmanship, but wanted to experiment before doing anything more permanent. Exhaust is stock, very rusty and with the last 10cm of it fallen off from rust and vibes, so a little bit more open than standard but not very much so.

Results? Simply amazing. I was never able to see more than 165km/hr before, but the bike now pulled hard to the red line. Top indicated speed with standard gearing was about 185 till rev limiter cut-off. The accelaration from 140 on 5th was fantastic. Absolutely no hesitation either at low revs whatsoever. Unforyunately the afore mentioned engine was toasted due to doing 5000km without checking the oil level and when i did so, the top end was rattling, and i managed to pure out 200ml of oil. Engine had 70,000km at that point.

I'm planning now to do the same to 800, put the klx forks in it, get a decent shock, fabricate a single exhaust with larger diameter downpipe, get excel rims, and look to the possibility of fitting fcr's.

As i wont get the 800 till a month or so, i was wondering if anybody knows whether the 750 tanks and plastics fit the later 800 frame. I like the old 750 looks much more than the 800. Alternatively, would the 800 engine fit the 750 frame?
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Old 10-11-2008, 07:06 AM   #169
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long shot but what the hell

if anyone sees, or has a DR750 for sale in canada please pm me. i am looking to buy one . please be ready to provide pics as i live in a remote area of ontario and will be buying the bike unseen. if any german members can help i would consider importing one from germany.
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Old 10-11-2008, 11:40 AM   #170
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A picture of my bike, all stock.
I just paintet it matt black... Not all done in this picture!!
Hope to do some more off-roading next year, and making some mods to the bike.
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Old 10-11-2008, 12:12 PM   #171
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Mods?

I was just wondering what eveyone has done for mods and any instructions to do them would be appreciated. It's my understanding that the airbox on the 750's need attention as does the exhaust. Mine is pretty close to stock mechanically, but has a custom pipe and the can from a DRZ 400 and although extremely quiet, it's running very rich and doesn't seem as powerful as it should. I have a hard time pulling more than 145 km/h and is seems sluggish after 120. Do I need to completely remove the airbox and go with k&n's and a rejet and if so what size jets? Or is there some airbox mods or a different box that will work? I will remake the spark arrestor from the DRZ can so I can get more flow out of it.

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Old 10-11-2008, 12:17 PM   #172
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Hi dear fellows,

I wanted to share with you my experience so far with the BIG one. I own a 750 and I will be soon getting a mint 800 of 96. So, As someone posted above, it is true KLX650 upside downs fit the 750 like a glove, no machining required, same bearings too. I have fitted these to my 750 and i will transfer them to the 800 soon-ish.
Its is by far the best mod handling wise to the bike. Very stable at all speeds even with a 20 year old back shock. I didnt even change springs up front, but i cant tell if they were the originals as i bought the forks from ebay.

Another interesting little thing. The 750 (and i guess the 800 too) respond extremelly well to ditching the airbox and fitting clamp-on KNs. Havent dyno'ed yet, but changed the main jets with a pair of 130 i had lying around and attached the KNs to a plastic tube of about 15cm long and 5 in diameter, which in turn where fitted to the carbs by a very non permanent sleeve made out of old inner tyre tube. Not the best craftmanship, but wanted to experiment before doing anything more permanent. Exhaust is stock, very rusty and with the last 10cm of it fallen off from rust and vibes, so a little bit more open than standard but not very much so.

Results? Simply amazing. I was never able to see more than 165km/hr before, but the bike now pulled hard to the red line. Top indicated speed with standard gearing was about 185 till rev limiter cut-off. The accelaration from 140 on 5th was fantastic. Absolutely no hesitation either at low revs whatsoever. Unforyunately the afore mentioned engine was toasted due to doing 5000km without checking the oil level and when i did so, the top end was rattling, and i managed to pure out 200ml of oil. Engine had 70,000km at that point.

I'm planning now to do the same to 800, put the klx forks in it, get a decent shock, fabricate a single exhaust with larger diameter downpipe, get excel rims, and look to the possibility of fitting fcr's.

As i wont get the 800 till a month or so, i was wondering if anybody knows whether the 750 tanks and plastics fit the later 800 frame. I like the old 750 looks much more than the 800. Alternatively, would the 800 engine fit the 750 frame?
Any chance you could provide pictures of your filter setup, as they say a picture is worth a thousand words.
It's something I'm looking at doing to get the Big to perform more like the wifes XT.Also how low are they, don't want to get swamped doing river crossings

Cheers......
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Old 10-11-2008, 03:30 PM   #173
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I was just wondering what eveyone has done for mods and any instructions to do them would be appreciated. It's my understanding that the airbox on the 750's need attention as does the exhaust. Mine is pretty close to stock mechanically, but has a custom pipe and the can from a DRZ 400 and although extremely quiet, it's running very rich and doesn't seem as powerful as it should. I have a hard time pulling more than 145 km/h and is seems sluggish after 120. Do I need to completely remove the airbox and go with k&n's and a rejet and if so what size jets? Or is there some airbox mods or a different box that will work? I will remake the spark arrestor from the DRZ can so I can get more flow out of it.

Thanks

JR
Sounds like your Choke could be stuck on,it may be sticking in the carb body.
Your peformance is way below par, it should pull like crazy to 135-140kph then climb up to 155- 160kph eventually getting to 165- 170 kph if you have enough straight road,or more with mods as mentioned above

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Old 10-11-2008, 06:24 PM   #174
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Nope chokes not on. Works well and definately makes a difference when on to off. Like I said it is running very rich and I have to lean it out. I like the idea of pics of peoples airboxes and/or air filter arrangement. I have an idea in my head to go to a different filter set up but would like to be able to keep an airbox. It doesn't have to be the factory airbox and I even have visions of making one myself but if there is something that is simpler than making my own, I would possibly like to try that first.

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Old 10-11-2008, 08:45 PM   #175
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Nope chokes not on. Works well and definately makes a difference when on to off. Like I said it is running very rich and I have to lean it out. I like the idea of pics of peoples airboxes and/or air filter arrangement. I have an idea in my head to go to a different filter set up but would like to be able to keep an airbox. It doesn't have to be the factory airbox and I even have visions of making one myself but if there is something that is simpler than making my own, I would possibly like to try that first.

JR
sounds like someones(previous owners) been playing around with shit they dont know(carby), if they had left everthing standard you would be pulling up to the ton. mines stock standard and has plenty of pulling power.
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Old 10-11-2008, 09:33 PM   #176
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how rude of me not to intrduce myself on my first post.
i'm Deano from NZ, currently riding a DRBIG750 and a DR500.
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Old 10-11-2008, 10:45 PM   #177
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Any chance you could provide pictures of your filter setup, as they say a picture is worth a thousand words.
It's something I'm looking at doing to get the Big to perform more like the wifes XT.Also how low are they, don't want to get swamped doing river crossings

Cheers......
unfortunately, the bike is in my dads garage and my dads garage is 2 months away right now. However, setup is as simple as it sounds. The clamp-ons where bought to be fitted on a 1150gs but the bike didnt like them, so I put them on the big dr. A bit of intermediate tubing helps with torque low down and made them actually fit, since the carbs where larger size than the GS throttle bodies. The only pain is to remove the airbox which is a very tight fit. I dont cross rivers, so height is not a problem, but otherwise is not recommended.
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Old 10-12-2008, 12:37 AM   #178
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unfortunately, the bike is in my dads garage and my dads garage is 2 months away right now. However, setup is as simple as it sounds. The clamp-ons where bought to be fitted on a 1150gs but the bike didnt like them, so I put them on the big dr. A bit of intermediate tubing helps with torque low down and made them actually fit, since the carbs where larger size than the GS throttle bodies. The only pain is to remove the airbox which is a very tight fit. I dont cross rivers, so height is not a problem, but otherwise is not recommended.
Thanks for that Mousitsas, I guess I'll go back to the drawing board. Not much good to me if the setup is to low, N.Z. has lots of rivers with roads/tracks beside/accross them and I never know when I'll be on one.
BTW does anyone have an old spare airbox kicking around the back of the shed they'd like to donate to the cause ($$ offered of course)
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Old 10-12-2008, 09:22 AM   #179
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Hi dear fellows,

I wanted to share with you my experience so far with the BIG one. I own a 750 and I will be soon getting a mint 800 of 96. So, As someone posted above, it is true KLX650 upside downs fit the 750 like a glove, no machining required, same bearings too. I have fitted these to my 750 and i will transfer them to the 800 soon-ish.
Its is by far the best mod handling wise to the bike. Very stable at all speeds even with a 20 year old back shock. I didnt even change springs up front, but i cant tell if they were the originals as i bought the forks from ebay.

Another interesting little thing. The 750 (and i guess the 800 too) respond extremelly well to ditching the airbox and fitting clamp-on KNs. Havent dyno'ed yet, but changed the main jets with a pair of 130 i had lying around and attached the KNs to a plastic tube of about 15cm long and 5 in diameter, which in turn where fitted to the carbs by a very non permanent sleeve made out of old inner tyre tube. Not the best craftmanship, but wanted to experiment before doing anything more permanent. Exhaust is stock, very rusty and with the last 10cm of it fallen off from rust and vibes, so a little bit more open than standard but not very much so.

Results? Simply amazing. I was never able to see more than 165km/hr before, but the bike now pulled hard to the red line. Top indicated speed with standard gearing was about 185 till rev limiter cut-off. The accelaration from 140 on 5th was fantastic. Absolutely no hesitation either at low revs whatsoever. Unforyunately the afore mentioned engine was toasted due to doing 5000km without checking the oil level and when i did so, the top end was rattling, and i managed to pure out 200ml of oil. Engine had 70,000km at that point.

I'm planning now to do the same to 800, put the klx forks in it, get a decent shock, fabricate a single exhaust with larger diameter downpipe, get excel rims, and look to the possibility of fitting fcr's.

As i wont get the 800 till a month or so, i was wondering if anybody knows whether the 750 tanks and plastics fit the later 800 frame. I like the old 750 looks much more than the 800. Alternatively, would the 800 engine fit the 750 frame?
DR800 engine fits to DR750 frame. Engines are almost identical outside. Magneto cover is different because startmotor and torque limiter. But there is difference between electrics (CDI unit etc.). I was told to put 750 magneto and pickup)powersource coils etc. located in the magneto cover with 800 engine with 750 wires and electrics. Runs with no problems. (or did) I didn't try dr800 magneto electrics with dr750 CDIs. Might work as well.

BTW people, what is your fuel level, jets needle positions etc. and exhaust setup. I have everything stock , but with Laser Produro. I've replaced many worn out carburetor parts and I'm lost with jetting. With old parts bike run rich at high RPMs and ok. or bit lean in lover RPMs. Now i have lean all rpms. I think... I plan to to make some air box modifications next winter with foam filter. But i have to get bike runnig with no problems before that

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Old 10-12-2008, 11:59 AM   #180
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Somethings not right there Jack Rabbit . I've just fitted a Suzuki RMZ can to the back of my 750 with no air boxs mods and it pulls like no tommorrow and im based at 1250 ft above sea level. I'll post some pic's Soon.
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