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Old 04-02-2014, 07:47 AM   #1
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Question Being prepared?

I'm looking for some input and advise from my fellow PNW riders. I've been getting into this adventure thing and now that I'm riding more and more gravel and getting farther into the hills I'm thinking much more about preparedness.

I've ridden on-road for years and on my old airhead I've got enough spare parts and tools to do almost a full rebuild by the side of the road. There's security though always knowing you can thumb a ride if things go sideways... Last time I rode to Oakridge on the gravel I didn't see a single other person for 3 hours so that changes my thinking about fixing vs. walking.

My new bike, F800 comes with a "tool kit" under the seat, (a screwdriver even though the bike uses torx fasteners almost exclusively and a wrench, perhaps these are for snugging the fittings on your espresso machine while camping at the KOA?). Pretty worthless in other words so I'm trying to be prepared without becoming that crazy guy who rides around loaded for a trans-Siberian tour.

Hoping to come up with a complete but sensible tool/parts kit to carry into the woods. Tire changing is my absolute least favorite task and I'm not sure I want to carry extra tubes and a compressor, I'm thinking tire irons, patch kit, and a small hand pump. Is this foolish? could I seat the tires properly with a bicycle pump? I know I should try in the garage to find out first but hey, this is what internets are for.

OK, so for riding around forest service roads, gravel, a few trails, camping, etc. what do you folks find is the "right" amount of stuff to keep on board for emergencies? Ever find you needed something desperately that you didn't have? Any items that you've carried for years but never used?

Thanks in advance for any help. -Paul
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:01 AM   #2
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I'm looking for some input and advise from my fellow PNW riders. I've been getting into this adventure thing and now that I'm riding more and more gravel and getting farther into the hills I'm thinking much more about preparedness.

I've ridden on-road for years and on my old airhead I've got enough spare parts and tools to do almost a full rebuild by the side of the road. There's security though always knowing you can thumb a ride if things go sideways... Last time I rode to Oakridge on the gravel I didn't see a single other person for 3 hours so that changes my thinking about fixing vs. walking.

My new bike, F800 comes with a "tool kit" under the seat, (a screwdriver even though the bike uses torx fasteners almost exclusively and a wrench, perhaps these are for snugging the fittings on your espresso machine while camping at the KOA?). Pretty worthless in other words so I'm trying to be prepared without becoming that crazy guy who rides around loaded for a trans-Siberian tour.

Hoping to come up with a complete but sensible tool/parts kit to carry into the woods. Tire changing is my absolute least favorite task and I'm not sure I want to carry extra tubes and a compressor, I'm thinking tire irons, patch kit, and a small hand pump. Is this foolish? could I seat the tires properly with a bicycle pump? I know I should try in the garage to find out first but hey, this is what internets are for.

OK, so for riding around forest service roads, gravel, a few trails, camping, etc. what do you folks find is the "right" amount of stuff to keep on board for emergencies? Ever find you needed something desperately that you didn't have? Any items that you've carried for years but never used?

Thanks in advance for any help. -Paul
I carry 3 tire irons, patches, plugs, and a CO2 inflator.. You could air it up with a hand pump but may have a combination of carpal tunnel and tennis elbow by the time you are finished the CO2 inflator makes short work of it. I have a Tusk brand inflator, it is cheap, light, small, and very effective.
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:10 AM   #3
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One other thing: Small first aid kit
Very handy if you cut yourself, get a headache....
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:20 AM   #4
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I assume you are running tubes and not tubless? If so a bicycle pump should be fine, but a cheap Slime compresssor doesn't take up much more space. Of course you need to carry a tube or patches. Personally I wouldn't patch unless it was a last resort. I carry a front tube, that can be used one the rear in a pinch and a couple of Pro-Moto Combo tire irons (Ones with a wrench/ring spanner in the end).

As for tools, the sky is the limit. I've slowly been whittling my tools down to a manageable level. I carry the bare minimums for day rides, but for overnighters I have a tool roll (Roadgear) with a good selection (About the size of a Large Nalgene Bottle). I try to use this same tool roll for doing routine maintainance, that way you know what is missing. The most used tools in there are T-handle socket driver with correct bits, set of allen keys, flashlight, test light, multitip screwdriver, leatherman.

Also carry a small pouch (About the size of a hot-dog) of spares: Fuses, Zip Ties, epoxy, screw assortment, safety wire, spare master link, electrical tape etc. I've used this pouch as much as the tool roll.

Finally, I almost always have a small emergency stuff sack (About the size of a Whopper Cheeseburger): Space Blanket, Survival Kit, First Aid Kit, Water Purifyication Tablets and matches.

There's a toolkit thread that will give you much more and better ideas.
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:34 AM   #5
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Here's a good thread.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=262998
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:53 AM   #6
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I do a lot of gravel road. Be prepared to walk and make a fire if need be. Fixing your bike is great ( I also carry stuff to fix tire and small repair kit) but getting cold hungry and dehydrated sucks. Your bike is big enough that you will almost always be able to get back to it with a truck it need be. In a ideal world we would always have some one to ride with, in reality we almost never do. Bring snacks, water, warm clothes, head lamp a lighter and walking shoes. Good luck and enjoy.
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:56 AM   #7
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Old 04-02-2014, 09:07 AM   #8
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Perfect, thanks for the replies guys!
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Old 04-02-2014, 10:17 AM   #9
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I'm almost in the same boat as you TK. I probably get more nasty, remote area covered than you, learning what all to include for a kit now too. One thing I've decided I will take as soon as I can make it happen is Spor Messenger. I ride alone too much to be without one I think.

We need to meet up and ride, or at least so I can check out the F800.
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Old 04-02-2014, 10:44 AM   #10
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Why I carry toobz..

Framing nail did this 45 miles out on a gravel road...

I covered it with two big truck tire patches. That got me 2 miles out of the deep woods to main forest service road before it totally failed. 4PM, 45 miles up the Smith River, N California, on the wrong side of a rock wall scaling operation that had the road closed to traffic 8 to 5.

Ditched the bike in the woods, took off the rear wheel, sat there to see who came down the road or if I'm "camping out."

A local came by, eventually got to Crescent City 930PM. Next day, got a new tube installed, hitched back up the road, got through the scaling op at noon shutdown and bike rolling at 1PM, but couldn't get out until the road work shut down again!

I had another rear flat on the coast that took two days to fix a couple years ago, the stem tore out, and another big nail tube-killer here in baja last month.

That's why we carry tubes, sometimes they can't be fixed and then your screwed!
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Old 04-02-2014, 10:53 AM   #11
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Old 04-02-2014, 11:00 AM   #12
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I always carry a few highway road flares. Perfect for starting fires even in wet area.
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Old 04-02-2014, 11:06 AM   #13
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I also like to carry a small tarp or piece of tarp to lay the wheel on while Im changing the tire/flat repair, a pair of Mechanix gloves to work on the bike and small pump bottle of Matrix tire lub(or Windex). Lubing the bead makes it SO much easier.....
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Old 04-02-2014, 11:13 AM   #14
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Bug spray.

Because when you finally do get that flat, it will be in the middle of a mosquito infested forest.



also tape, for when the rimlock falls apart

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Old 04-02-2014, 12:23 PM   #15
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Hey, so this is kind of a silly question, but that photo above with the rear wheel propped up got me thinking.

When you're out in the middle of nowhere and get a rear flat, what's the best way to get the wheel up and off the ground to take it off the bike? Find a tree / rock to get the bike on? Dump it on it's side?
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