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Old 10-07-2012, 08:57 AM   #1036
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That's a nice twisty shot S.G. What is that dry bag on top of the GL, if I may ask?
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Old 10-07-2012, 03:04 PM   #1037
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And found this pic Apple deleted with GL mounted on my e with sm wheel set. Dry bag on top has tent and rain suit in it.

The GL looks like a good set up for me. At $329 is not exactly a bargain, but you gotta pay to play I guess...How's your access to the tank when fully set up on bike? Do you have to remove stuff to fill up?
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Old 10-07-2012, 03:33 PM   #1038
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That's a nice twisty shot S.G. What is that dry bag on top of the GL, if I may ask?
Bag is made by Watershed This one's done a lot of days in the sun. First whitewater, then blue water, now tent toter. Very well made, I think it's fifteen or twenty years old - still getting it done.

I took this a while back for Ricky when he was interested in this set up. Fastens right onto GL. I'm using a SW Mototech rear rack, fix whole set up towards the back and am able to access fuel fill with ease.

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Do you have to remove stuff to fill up?
No removal, maybe a push if things have shifted.

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Old 10-09-2012, 08:00 AM   #1039
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Ive been looking through this thread, and Trying to decide on what I want to put on my 690 for a trip a few friends and I are making next summer to Moab from Oregon. Were trying to make is mostly off road on the way down, with mostly highway on the way back, should be 3 days on the road each way. I was wondering what a solid set up would be with adiquite gas/water/camping/misc stuff would be. Im leaning toward getting the RR racks, 1 gallon rotopax water and fuel, coyote bag, top duffel (giant loop 12 liter), and tank bag (KTM) to carry everything.

Im just wondering how durable all that will be, and if I will have enough storage for everything without strapping everything OUTSIDE my bags and what not. Thanks for any responses, and hopefully pictures if anyone is running the RR racks and coyote together!
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:03 AM   #1040
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Ive been looking through this thread, and Trying to decide on what I want to put on my 690 for a trip a few friends and I are making next summer to Moab from Oregon. Were trying to make is mostly off road on the way down, with mostly highway on the way back, should be 3 days on the road each way. I was wondering what a solid set up would be with adiquite gas/water/camping/misc stuff would be. Im leaning toward getting the RR racks, 1 gallon rotopax water and fuel, coyote bag, top duffel (giant loop 12 liter), and tank bag (KTM) to carry everything.

Im just wondering how durable all that will be, and if I will have enough storage for everything without strapping everything OUTSIDE my bags and what not. Thanks for any responses, and hopefully pictures if anyone is running the RR racks and coyote together!

Giant loop bags don't fit properly over the RR racks. The GL bags are shaped to the bike, not to the extra width of racks.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:10 AM   #1041
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Giant loop bags don't fit properly over the RR racks. The GL bags are shaped to the bike, not to the extra width of racks.
Well that Kind of sucks... Haha.

My other alternative was running the wolfman racks and bags, same top duffel and tank bag. But I dont know how to carry extra fuel and water for the trip with them, and dont want to run rotopax with them cause theyre so wide with them :/
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:30 AM   #1042
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I like my Wolfman Expedition Kit with KTM tankbag and KTM flip bag on the back. Basically all my tools and spares are in the tailbag. Extra gloves, water, jetboil, cup, camera maps etc in the tankbag. It's actually quite large and can take lots of stuff. My left pannier has my tent, Big Agness air mattress, air pollow and sleep bag, My right pannier has my clothes, camp shoes, heated jacket liner and toiletries. I strap my tent poles and camp chair crosswise in front of my tailbag.

I have a similar set-up on my Yamaha 250, but instead of a tailbag I strap on a duffel. I've ridden with people who use the giant loop bags, but I guess my preference is the ease of access to find the stuff I am looking for. I also like the way they attach to the bike.



I wear a Camelback that has some storage too. The whole thing weighs maybe 35lbs. I don't notice it's weight hardly at all. I've only been camping off the KTM once, though. I did the CDR and Pny Express with the Yamaha and after getting the packing down, found the gear pretty functional and easy.

I may get a Wolfman Rotopax side mount for the KTM, but the Yam has plenty of range.



Not so wide...A rotopax should go good enough on the right...



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Ive been looking through this thread, and Trying to decide on what I want to put on my 690 for a trip a few friends and I are making next summer to Moab from Oregon. Were trying to make is mostly off road on the way down, with mostly highway on the way back, should be 3 days on the road each way. I was wondering what a solid set up would be with adiquite gas/water/camping/misc stuff would be. Im leaning toward getting the RR racks, 1 gallon rotopax water and fuel, coyote bag, top duffel (giant loop 12 liter), and tank bag (KTM) to carry everything.

Im just wondering how durable all that will be, and if I will have enough storage for everything without strapping everything OUTSIDE my bags and what not. Thanks for any responses, and hopefully pictures if anyone is running the RR racks and coyote together!
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:50 AM   #1043
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I like my Wolfman Expedition Kit with KTM tankbag and KTM flip bag on the back. Basically all my tools and spares are in the tailbag. Extra gloves, water, jetboil, cup, camera maps etc in the tankbag. It's actually quite large and can take lots of stuff. My left pannier has my tent, Big Agness air mattress, air pollow and sleep bag, My right pannier has my clothes, camp shoes, heated jacket liner and toiletries. I strap my tent poles and camp chair crosswise in front of my tailbag.

I have a similar set-up on my Yamaha 250, but instead of a tailbag I strap on a duffel. I've ridden with people who use the giant loop bags, but I guess my preference is the ease of access to find the stuff I am looking for. I also like the way they attach to the bike.



I wear a Camelback that has some storage too. The whole thing weighs maybe 35lbs. I don't notice it's weight hardly at all. I've only been camping off the KTM once, though. I did the CDR and Pny Express with the Yamaha and after getting the packing down, found the gear pretty functional and easy.

I may get a Wolfman Rotopax side mount for the KTM, but the Yam has plenty of range.



Not so wide...A rotopax should go good enough on the right...
Deleted the pictures for forum space.

Thank you for your input! I saw how your bike was setup and really liked it. I was curious though about the rear rack on the back of the bike and was wondering what kind you have mounted to it. I may do just a single sided rotopax for the gas tank and then just use a camel back for water, but I would like to have at least a gallon of water that I can use for fire hazard/stranded/drinking/washing/rinsing and all that.

My friend has the KTM tank bag on his F800 and I love it, so im definately getting one of those later on today.
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:13 AM   #1044
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I've been using a similar alternative. Wolfman racks, expedition and tank bags, generic duffel and RotoPax fuel (right). Since these pictures, I use a larger duffel that fits all the camp gear. Packing: right saddle bag -- cloths and cooking equipment, left -- tools, spares and misc, duffel -- tent, pad, sleeping bag, chair.



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Well that Kind of sucks... Haha.

My other alternative was running the wolfman racks and bags, same top duffel and tank bag. But I dont know how to carry extra fuel and water for the trip with them, and dont want to run rotopax with them cause theyre so wide with them :/
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:15 AM   #1045
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I was curious though about the rear rack on the back of the bike and was wondering what kind you have mounted to it.

My friend has the KTM tank bag on his F800 and I love it, so im definately getting one of those later on today.
The rear rack is the KTM flip tailbag. The front of it has a quick release that allows the bag to be removed for fueling.

The bottom of the bag is hard. There is a top bracket that bolts to the bag and also bolts to my Woflman side racks. You need the longer bolts provided by Wolfman, plus the bevel washers from the rear hand rails.

1. Install the racks
2. Lay the top bracket on top of the Wolfman rack mounts
3. Slip the bolts and bevel washers through it and tighten.

Then slip the tailbag on it and click the release pin home.
http://www.ktmtwins.com/ktm-690-smc-enduro-top-bracket

http://www.ktmtwins.com/ktm-950-990-...-rear-tail-bag
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Old 10-09-2012, 12:47 PM   #1046
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Awesome guys, thank you for the advice! Im pretty positive im going to run the wolfman bags, but I have just one last question, are they durable enough for extensive off road use? Our trip is going to be taking us on some light single track, sand, and fire roads, and in the pretty certain case that I go down, will the bags hang on?

Going to my local KTM dealer to take a look at that flip case today!
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Old 10-09-2012, 01:32 PM   #1047
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Mine are used under similar conditions as you propose. I packed tools poorly in my yellow duffel bag and after 7 days on the CDR, I noticed chafing at the bottom of the bag from my trail stand. It is only aluminum, but it has sharp edges. Then I notice chafing in one of my panniers from the cooking kit. No holes, but chafing. They have patch kits and will do repairs if you want them to fix it, but I learned to pack better and more snugly, protecting the bags from sharp edges. I have not had any chafing since. I've fallen off that Yamaha a few times and they held up. Now I wasn't going very fast, so I cant speak to that. My flops are usually when I go to foot dab and find air. Either that or mud. But they are highly repairable in any event. Surely moreso than aluminum boxes.

Go to an outdoor store like an REI and check out the Sealine kayak and duffel bags. It's made of the same materials so you get a better idea how rugged they are. Maybe watch those videos on their website.

Like I said before, I was unhappy with them the first couple days on the trail because they were so fiddly to pack and mount. But by the third day I had it down. I'm much better today. I can break camp and be on the road just as fast as I could with hard panniers. The main thing for me is compactness and knowing which roll top to open to get what I am looking for.

I like the Giant Loop concept too, but I didn't want to be constantly digging around looking for my stuff. My son used the small one in the Mexican 1000 for some of his spares. It worked well, but changed the air flow around his muffler, which proceeded to melt off his blinker.

'Course, he had that thing pinned a lot of the time and you know how hot things get when you do that.

Let us know what you do, and have fun on your big trip!

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Awesome guys, thank you for the advice! Im pretty positive im going to run the wolfman bags, but I have just one last question, are they durable enough for extensive off road use? Our trip is going to be taking us on some light single track, sand, and fire roads, and in the pretty certain case that I go down, will the bags hang on?

Going to my local KTM dealer to take a look at that flip case today!
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Old 10-09-2012, 01:41 PM   #1048
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Love the rear factory KTM top mount bag, quick release for refueling, and has plenty of expandable storage capacity:


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Old 10-10-2012, 06:45 PM   #1049
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Love the rear factory KTM top mount bag, quick release for refueling, and has plenty of expandable storage capacity:
Maybe

But if you get this thing dirty, it won't last. The zipper will begin to do free games at one point. Then the quick release won't be quick anymore. You'll have to oil the release latch on a regular basis. And whatever you put in there will be destroyed with vibrations.

I had two of these. I know.

But on paved road, it's ok ...

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Old 10-11-2012, 06:25 AM   #1050
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+1 I had three of the mounting bolts break before I stopped using my tail bag for anything other than clothing.
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