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Old 10-11-2012, 05:42 AM   #1051
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+1 I had three of the mounting bolts break before I stopped using my tail bag for anything other than clothing.
Are you talking about the screws that bolt the bottom of the bag to the bracket?

I imagine I can put bigger bolts in there. Maybe even include an aluminum plate. Not sure what to do about the quick release. It seems undersized too. I use mine to carry my tool kit, spoons, jack stand, compressor and some odds and ends. I pack it tight with a clean-up rag thinking that would help. I'd guess its 6-7 lbs.
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Old 10-11-2012, 07:38 AM   #1052
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Nope the bolts that held the bracket to the rack. I have not broken the botls that hold the bracket to the bag yet. I think there is enough flex in that area to take the some of the strain off the blots..
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Old 10-11-2012, 10:15 AM   #1053
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Mine are used under similar conditions as you propose. I packed tools poorly in my yellow duffel bag and after 7 days on the CDR, I noticed chafing at the bottom of the bag from my trail stand. It is only aluminum, but it has sharp edges. Then I notice chafing in one of my panniers from the cooking kit. No holes, but chafing. They have patch kits and will do repairs if you want them to fix it, but I learned to pack better and more snugly, protecting the bags from sharp edges. I have not had any chafing since. I've fallen off that Yamaha a few times and they held up. Now I wasn't going very fast, so I cant speak to that. My flops are usually when I go to foot dab and find air. Either that or mud. But they are highly repairable in any event. Surely moreso than aluminum boxes.

Go to an outdoor store like an REI and check out the Sealine kayak and duffel bags. It's made of the same materials so you get a better idea how rugged they are. Maybe watch those videos on their website.

Like I said before, I was unhappy with them the first couple days on the trail because they were so fiddly to pack and mount. But by the third day I had it down. I'm much better today. I can break camp and be on the road just as fast as I could with hard panniers. The main thing for me is compactness and knowing which roll top to open to get what I am looking for.

I like the Giant Loop concept too, but I didn't want to be constantly digging around looking for my stuff. My son used the small one in the Mexican 1000 for some of his spares. It worked well, but changed the air flow around his muffler, which proceeded to melt off his blinker.

'Course, he had that thing pinned a lot of the time and you know how hot things get when you do that.

Let us know what you do, and have fun on your big trip!
Thanks for that, thats exactely what I wanted to know. I will be buying these bags, the rack, and the rotopac for fuel on one side for my trip. Thats usually when I fall as well, the techinical riding we will be doing will be only at Moab itself, in which case I will only have the racks on, no bags.

I just picked up the KTM "tank bag" for the 690 and its excellent! Im building my luggage and supplies slowly and were taking the trip next year.

Thanks everyone for the help, this site is really useful!
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:28 PM   #1054
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Nope the bolts that held the bracket to the rack. I have not broken the botls that hold the bracket to the bag yet. I think there is enough flex in that area to take the some of the strain off the blots..
Thanks. Can't quite remember those bolts. I'll look into it some and see if I can have something better.

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Old 10-11-2012, 05:31 PM   #1055
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Just completed a Seat Concepts upgrade along with a Rotopax and side-bag install for day trippin'...the previous Coyote is for overnighters.....



One feature of Jim's Globetrottin' gear is that it is built to work with many systems. The Rotopax plate will mount to my Wolfman rack on this bike or the Happy Trails rack on my 990Adv, as will the RTE side bag that he makes.....you picks your own systems and takes your own chances....
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Old 10-16-2012, 10:25 PM   #1056
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Magadan Soft Panniers

Has anyone on this thread mounted a pair of the Adventure-Spec Magadan Soft panniers on a 690 yet? I'd like to see a picture if you have. They are meant for use with a luggage rack, and were designed by Walter Colebatch. They seem extremely well thought out.

http://www.adventure-spec.com/defaul...-panniers.html
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Old 10-17-2012, 12:19 AM   #1057
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Has anyone on this thread mounted a pair of the Adventure-Spec Magadan Soft panniers on a 690 yet? I'd like to see a picture if you have. They are meant for use with a luggage rack, and were designed by Walter Colebatch. They seem extremely well thought out.

http://www.adventure-spec.com/defaul...-panniers.html
I didn't realize they were selling them now. They do look quite nice. Maybe someone in the UK could stop by ADVspec and snap a few photos
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Old 10-17-2012, 03:50 PM   #1058
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looks like a copy of the andy straps
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Old 10-17-2012, 08:47 PM   #1059
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looks like a copy of the andy straps
Its an evolution of the Andy Straps. The designer of the bag had some Andy Straps, that he used under conditions of long and heavy service. He liked the Andy Straps but decided to address some issues that came up. So the design is based on them.
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:31 PM   #1060
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looks like a copy of the andy straps
And Andy was the first to complain on the site.....everything is a copy of something.....where did your genes come from.......and maybe evolution is occurring....

Personally, I hope I don't need to spend that amount of coin for the experience of carrying my necessary goods. As I discovered in Italy this summer, somebody who really wants to steal from you........will steal from you.......

And somebody who is Bat Shit Crazy.........will remain Bat Shit Crazy.......
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Old 10-18-2012, 02:04 AM   #1061
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Question Wolfman tank bag pics

So, I've been trying to make a decision on a tank bag for my 690. I'm struggling to visualize the size of some of the tank bags out there so I'm looking for pics of some bags mounted on the bike.

Things I'm thinking of fitting in the bag:
Spare gloves, rain jacket, first aid kit, tool kit, phone, wallet, snacks and DSLR if I can

I like the idea of the rainier and the explorer lite but I'm wondering if they are a bit bulky for the 690? If they are too big, do you think I could fit all of the above into the enduro or small expedition?

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Old 10-18-2012, 02:56 AM   #1062
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So, I've been trying to make a decision on a tank bag for my 690. I'm struggling to visualize the size of some of the tank bags out there so I'm looking for pics of some bags mounted on the bike.

Things I'm thinking of fitting in the bag:
Spare gloves, rain jacket, first aid kit, tool kit, phone, wallet, snacks and DSLR if I can

I like the idea of the rainier and the explorer lite but I'm wondering if they are a bit bulky for the 690? If they are too big, do you think I could fit all of the above into the enduro or small expedition?

If you are going to put all that stuff in a tank bag it's going be have to be very big and will get in the way of your nuts when you stand up. No way on the Enduro, will even be tight in an Explorer Lite when fully expanded.

I would recommend combining a Giant Loop Mojavi or Wolfman Day Tripper on the rear for most of the stuff and then putting the DSLR into a smaller tank bag like the GL Diablo.

It won't really weigh any more but the ergonomics and the handling will be much better. The only one not so happy will be your wallet...
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Old 10-18-2012, 03:14 AM   #1063
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So, I've been trying to make a decision on a tank bag for my 690. I'm struggling to visualize the size of some of the tank bags out there so I'm looking for pics of some bags mounted on the bike.

Things I'm thinking of fitting in the bag:
Spare gloves, rain jacket, first aid kit, tool kit, phone, wallet, snacks and DSLR if I can

I like the idea of the rainier and the explorer lite but I'm wondering if they are a bit bulky for the 690? If they are too big, do you think I could fit all of the above into the enduro or small expedition?

I got the small expedition tank bag. It suits me with my setup. Have found I can stand comfortably with the bag (either with safari tank on or off).
To give you an idea of size; in it I have tyre repair kit, spare tube, small container of clutch fluid, sunscreen, spare glasses and a couple of other items
Sorry I haven't got a better pics

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Old 10-18-2012, 07:05 AM   #1064
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Maybe

But if you get this thing dirty, it won't last. The zipper will begin to do free games at one point. Then the quick release won't be quick anymore. You'll have to oil the release latch on a regular basis. And whatever you put in there will be destroyed with vibrations.

I had two of these. I know.

But on paved road, it's ok ...

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+1 on the vibes destroying stuff. Have to make sure you pack things in with soft stuff. Don't put your lunch leftovers in there, DAMHIK

I found silicon spray works wonders for zippers. Use it on all my bags and my jackets. Also works on that quick release.
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Old 10-18-2012, 12:13 PM   #1065
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