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Old 08-06-2013, 05:03 AM   #2056
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marketing decision ??

Hello,

Newbie to the forum here. I retired last fall, bought a 2007 Suzuki DRZ250, and very much enjoying myself riding the old logging roads in the north Idaho mountains around here. From what I can find out, it looks like my bike was the last year that Suzuki made the bike available in north America... I see that they are still available in Asia and Australia.. anybody know why they quit selling the 250 in the US ???

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Old 08-06-2013, 05:18 AM   #2057
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welcome aboard, my dad lives in post falls. great country up that way!

my guess on why they stopped selling the drz250 in the us is slow sales
from a lack of marketing a dual-sport version

post some pix of the world around you
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Old 08-06-2013, 08:11 PM   #2058
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Whats the extra hole for?

Hey all,
have a question. Have owned a Djebel for a couple of years now and love the bike. Mainly use it for riding to work and trail work in the weekends. Have an "out of interest" question. When I was under it the other day I noticed that the bottom end of the shock that bolts to the bit in the swing arm- has another threaded hole through it lower down. Any ideas what this second hole is for? My guess is if you drop the shock down to the lower hole it will increase seat height from ground? or no?
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Old 08-06-2013, 09:18 PM   #2059
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Hello,

Newbie to the forum here. I retired last fall, bought a 2007 Suzuki DRZ250, and very much enjoying myself riding the old logging roads in the north Idaho mountains around here. From what I can find out, it looks like my bike was the last year that Suzuki made the bike available in north America... I see that they are still available in Asia and Australia.. anybody know why they quit selling the 250 in the US ???

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The Japanese mfg. moved on to updated 250 woods bikes in the mid-2000s or dropped them.

Suzuki never moved forward in the 250 class and barely competed in the modern 450 class then dropped out. They still have an outdated 400 that sells enough to keep it going yet not too many to affect their CAFE rating. Suzuki also has been deal with financial issues. Kawasaki is in the same boat with nothing in the 250 or 450 woods bike class.

Only Honda and Yamaha are the Japanese players.
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Old 08-06-2013, 09:21 PM   #2060
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Hey all,
have a question. Have owned a Djebel for a couple of years now and love the bike. Mainly use it for riding to work and trail work in the weekends. Have an "out of interest" question. When I was under it the other day I noticed that the bottom end of the shock that bolts to the bit in the swing arm- has another threaded hole through it lower down. Any ideas what this second hole is for? My guess is if you drop the shock down to the lower hole it will increase seat height from ground? or no?
Sounds correct. On the DR650 it's that way. The lower hole is the tall suspension position and the upper hole is the lower position.

Are you forks dropped in the tripple clamps too? That was the fast and easy way to match the rear suspenion lowering. The correct way is to switch out the internals of the fork and they stay flush at the top of the tripple.
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Old 08-08-2013, 07:33 PM   #2061
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Sounds correct. On the DR650 it's that way. The lower hole is the tall suspension position and the upper hole is the lower position.

Are you forks dropped in the tripple clamps too? That was the fast and easy way to match the rear suspenion lowering. The correct way is to switch out the internals of the fork and they stay flush at the top of the tripple.

Ok- thats interesting. Yes the forks are also dropped in the clamps. Looks like there are 3 "rings" around the head of each fork and they are on the lowest ones. Maybe time to adjust as I'm 6 2" and 105kg! The rear shock has had a heavy duty spring put on it so it rides about right for me tho. But yes it does sit low as such as can easily put both feet flat on the ground at rest.
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Old 08-09-2013, 05:15 AM   #2062
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any body out there got any hing new on there drz250
have one ready for a tag just need time to go to dmv
the second one is about half way to a tag pix when i can
Tdrally what kit did you use to plate your DRZ250s? I am considering plating mine now that the DR is gone.

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Old 08-09-2013, 08:06 AM   #2063
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i made that one up, but i would use the rockymountain atv with a better headlight
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Old 08-10-2013, 08:17 AM   #2064
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Buy a used complete harness for the djebel250xc. everything solved.
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Old 08-10-2013, 08:24 AM   #2065
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the rockymountainatv kit is made better than the oe harness , led flasher can ect and its less money too
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Old 08-17-2013, 01:30 PM   #2066
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DRZ Jetting - Yurgh.

I am working on jetting for my new-to-me DRZ. It has a TM-33 & airbox mod, and the pipe is opened up. Home elevation is ~6,500', and I mostly ride in the 5,000 - 10,000' elevation zone (sometimes a bit higher).

Main jet is 130
Pilot jet is 42.5
Needle is in middle position

It was stumbling when you tried to twist the throttle and go, so I had already changed main jet from 125 to 130. It still feels like there might be a slight bog there, but if so, it's very subtle now. It has not stumbled at all with the 130 main jet.

The issue now is that when I come to a hard stop, the engine dies. And if I try to go down a hill too slow, it stalls and dies again. So for example I was riding single track today and I stopped at the top of a hill to see what the drop was, and it died. I restarted and tried to ride off - not holding it back but not giving it much gas - and it died again so I skidded merrily down the steep 'lil hill. I tried the same hill again without stopping and had the same issue.

I *think* this is still from it running too lean, but would like some advice on this before I go changing anything else. I was thinking of changing the pilot jet next, to a bigger size? Or do I move the needle next?

Help, pretty please!!

Thanks,
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Old 08-17-2013, 01:54 PM   #2067
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sounds like an air screw or jet issue to me
a bit more fuel could help
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Old 08-17-2013, 02:46 PM   #2068
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Hey guys, I got my DR250R registered last week, been having a blast hooning around but it has become apparent that the rear shock is stuffed :mad:

So I have ordered the parts and its off to a Suspension dude this week hopefully to get an overhaul. Needs new seal, the chrome on the shaft looks good but you can see the seal is leaking. Im aware that it also needs a new reservoir cap so that it can become a serviceable part from thereon in.

Hopefully this guy gets it done quick.
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Old 08-17-2013, 08:19 PM   #2069
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sounds like an air screw or jet issue to me
a bit more fuel could help
Thanks - I don't think it's the air screw, I am pretty sure it's something with jetting, just not sure which way to go. I think it needs richer, but the previous owner thought leaner. ??

I guess I'll open the carb tomorrow and muck around. Maybe put in a richer pilot jet?

I'm afraid I'll get it dead perfect for 6,500' or less, and then it will be a twit at altitude.

Wish there were more DRZ's around and the jetting was more of a known issue...
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Old 08-17-2013, 11:54 PM   #2070
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as you have an upgraded carb,
ask about jetting over on Thumpertalk.
http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/89032-drz250-02/
you might have something clogged in the carb.
take all the parts out and do a Pine Sol soak to start.
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I am working on jetting for my new-to-me DRZ. It has a TM-33 & airbox mod, and the pipe is opened up. Home elevation is ~6,500', and I mostly ride in the 5,000 - 10,000' elevation zone (sometimes a bit higher).

Main jet is 130
Pilot jet is 42.5
Needle is in middle position

It was stumbling when you tried to twist the throttle and go, so I had already changed main jet from 125 to 130. It still feels like there might be a slight bog there, but if so, it's very subtle now. It has not stumbled at all with the 130 main jet.

The issue now is that when I come to a hard stop, the engine dies. And if I try to go down a hill too slow, it stalls and dies again. So for example I was riding single track today and I stopped at the top of a hill to see what the drop was, and it died. I restarted and tried to ride off - not holding it back but not giving it much gas - and it died again so I skidded merrily down the steep 'lil hill. I tried the same hill again without stopping and had the same issue.

I *think* this is still from it running too lean, but would like some advice on this before I go changing anything else. I was thinking of changing the pilot jet next, to a bigger size? Or do I move the needle next?

Help, pretty please!!

Thanks,
Michele
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