ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Riding > Regional forums > Northeast - Greater Flugistan and home of the carpet baggers.
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

View Results: Have you ridden Pachaug Trail before?
Yes 152 25.63%
No 155 26.14%
I have not but I want to! 291 49.07%
I am scared to ride it.... 10 1.69%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 593. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 12-06-2012, 09:13 PM   #7651
mrt10x
Dumba$s Jarhead
 
mrt10x's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Location: Woodland Park, CO
Oddometer: 3,200
Quote:
Originally Posted by MATPOC View Post
Ducati MonoPosto subframe (single seat) is only 4 lbs lighter than a BiPosto (2 seater) and the Mono is made of Aluminum while BiPosto is steel,

If both E and S subbies are steel there might not even be a pound difference
both are aluminum... which makes the diff even less.. just passing on what I read over at TT when I was still looking at luggage options for my E model.
__________________
We are enmeshed in the cancerous discipline of "security." And in the worship of security we fling our lives beneath the wheels of routine - and before we know it our lives are gone.
mrt10x is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2012, 07:41 PM   #7652
akarob
Green Cantern
 
akarob's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Location: Skuncasville, CT
Oddometer: 7,579
More fun pictures.

Rear wheel all greased up, tightened up. New chain, etc.

Front is off. Steering bearings look good, not dry. I'm not sure if I'll replace them anyway or not.

Still waiting for the subframe, rear fender and related parts to arrive.



I'll probably change out the fork oil now too. I can't believe I have 40 hours on it already.



Plastics will get washed and polished.



Pretty soon, I'll get into the motor to upgrade oil pump gears, water pump seal, and fix the e-start.

I'm still planning on a new piston & rings too.

akarob screwed with this post 12-07-2012 at 07:53 PM
akarob is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2012, 10:34 PM   #7653
bomber1965
Duel
 
bomber1965's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Location: Rhode Island
Oddometer: 2,829
Quote:
Originally Posted by akarob View Post


I'll probably change out the fork oil now too. I can't believe I have 40 hours on it already.



You find yourself sticking with the same weight fork oil, or experimenting with viscosity to fine tune the ride?


bomber1965 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 12:00 AM   #7654
MATPOC
Studly Adventurer
 
MATPOC's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Location: Providence, near Hope
Oddometer: 926
Set the points and timing today, 0.35 mm point gap and 0.071 in BTDC, been a while since I did anything like it!
Still waiting for a crank seal,started working on fork seals: for a 42 year old bike this fork is too complicated! Had to unscrew the top part of the lower fork tube to get the seal out, pretty sure it had gear oil in it, thick as molasses!

MATPOC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 06:02 AM   #7655
akarob
Green Cantern
 
akarob's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Location: Skuncasville, CT
Oddometer: 7,579
Quote:
Originally Posted by bomber1965 View Post
You find yourself sticking with the same weight fork oil, or experimenting with viscosity to fine tune the ride?


Most fork oil is 5, 10 or 20.weight. I've seen evidence (on the internet) that the viscosity can vary a lot from manufacturer to manufacturer though. If you are really trying to dial it in, you need look at a chart like this and go my measured viscosity. http://mahonkin.com/~milktree/motorcycles/fork-oil.html

It's recommended that you change the fork oil every 20 hours on a dirtbike. Dirt gets pushed past the seals and contaminates the oil quickly. To answer your question, I don't worry about the weight of the oil until there's a problem. I'd suggest starting with a 10wt and go from there. The last oil I bought was BelRay. I just with it didn't cost $15/qt. Does anyone use anything less expensive in their forks? From the chart above, it looks like Mobil 1 synthetic ATF is between Bel-Ray 10wt and 15wt oil, and a lot cheaper I'm sure.
akarob is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 06:29 AM   #7656
MATPOC
Studly Adventurer
 
MATPOC's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Location: Providence, near Hope
Oddometer: 926
Rob, fork oils I used in the past usually have been consistent, perhaps slight variations but not enough to notice. Few things I want to point out

Quote:
Originally Posted by akarob View Post
I've seen evidence (on the internet).
C'mon, I have seen evidence of Bigfoot and Martians


Quote:
Originally Posted by akarob View Post
I'd suggest starting with a 10wt and go from there
I suggest starting with whatever your owner manual says, it will vary depending on the fork construction

Quote:
Originally Posted by akarob View Post
it looks like Mobil 1 synthetic ATF is between Bel-Ray 10wt and 15wt oil, and a lot cheaper I'm sure.
Yes, might be cheaper but will cost you more in the long run when you are replacing worn out bushings, fork oil is specially formulated for the task, just like motor oil, just like shock fluid which is almost same as fork oil, but it's not...

I use Honda stuff or Bellray or Slikolene... no real preference, Just got some Ohlins oil for the Aprilia, talking about expensive, AF1 is charging $30/qt, (no I didn't pay that!)

Want something in 15W range pick up "Showa Type E" from your local "Douche Marina" (Harley Davidson shop) it's good oil for damper style fork, too heavy for cartridge type, for those I use 5W or 10W.

I'm not sure what to look for in a dirt suspension, all of my experience is On-Road, but you are that in-tune with it and want to fine-tune it you can blend different weight oils so achieve in-between numbers, like mixing half-and-half 5W and 10W will get you 7.5W
MATPOC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 07:16 AM   #7657
Bob Q
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Location: Chester CT
Oddometer: 141
Fork oil

I just went through the same thing, my forks had Bell Ray 5wt oil in them, I blew a fork seal and could not find Bell Ray in stock in my area so I used some Maxima fork oil 5wt instead, and changed both forks. Well they are defiantly softer then the Bell Ray.
Bob Q is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 08:12 AM   #7658
MATPOC
Studly Adventurer
 
MATPOC's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Location: Providence, near Hope
Oddometer: 926
when you replaced fork oil did you measure the volume or set the level? If by level, did you bleed the cartridge?
MATPOC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 08:25 AM   #7659
Bob Q
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Location: Chester CT
Oddometer: 141
I'm kind of into suspension stuff, so I did the whole thing, broke them down, cleaned them and refilled them, I set the level at 170mm from the top, springs out, tube fully compressed, I do my own rear shock also.
Bob Q is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 09:06 AM   #7660
Ken F
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Ken F's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2012
Location: Wallingford
Oddometer: 407
Anyone willing to help me with my gas gas forks.there way to stiff for me.any way of changing oil without taking them off bike?
Ken F is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 10:02 AM   #7661
Capt. REDBEARD
TWECO
 
Capt. REDBEARD's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Location: buzzards bay
Oddometer: 1,120
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken F View Post
Anyone willing to help me with my gas gas forks.there way to stiff for me.any way of changing oil without taking them off bike?

taking the forks off is only 8 bolts and a brake bleed more then removing the front wheel.
so don't let that stop you.
__________________
1976 R60/6, 2009 530 EXC, 2008 250 XC, 2004 950 ADV

if the ocean were whiskey and I were a duck - I'd swim to the bottom and never come up
Capt. REDBEARD is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 11:46 AM   #7662
akarob
Green Cantern
 
akarob's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Location: Skuncasville, CT
Oddometer: 7,579
He could always just turn his bike upside down.
akarob is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 03:03 PM   #7663
gpj530
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Nov 2012
Location: Wallingford CT
Oddometer: 139
Quote:
Originally Posted by akarob View Post
He could always just turn his bike upside down.
LMAO
gpj530 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 03:46 PM   #7664
MATPOC
Studly Adventurer
 
MATPOC's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Location: Providence, near Hope
Oddometer: 926
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken F View Post
Anyone willing to help me with my gas gas forks.there way to stiff for me.any way of changing oil without taking them off bike?

Yes, siphon it, but why not take them off and do it proper?
MATPOC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 03:47 PM   #7665
MATPOC
Studly Adventurer
 
MATPOC's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Location: Providence, near Hope
Oddometer: 926
Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt. REDBEARD View Post
taking the forks off is only 8 bolts and a brake bleed more then removing the front wheel.
so don't let that stop you.
Why would you bleed brakes? caliper just unbolts and you let it hang...
MATPOC is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 06:20 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014