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08-09-2008, 03:34 PM
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Office Adventurer
Joined: Jun 2007
Location: Southern Africa
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Over the Great Wall, under the Iron Curtain
Russia, Mongolia and China- 2008
"A riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma" was how Winston Churchill famously described Russia. To many people, myself included, the Far East was a closed book and touring Asia was probably the last thing on my Planned Rides list a few years ago. That all changed around 2006, with the screening of “The Long Way Round”: it became apparent that it was actually possible to ride in the former ![]() Disadvantages were also apparent: lack of performance (100 km/h max), inherent instability of a side-car configuration, weight of the rig and lack of riding comfort. But it was worth considering, so the Ural factory was contacted to explore the possibilities. If you are curious about the lack of commercial success of the Ural brand, wonder no more. The factory and its agents have a totally dogmatic approach that simply excludes marketing flair and customer relations as we know it in the capitalist world. It was suggested we buy a rig in In order to get a feel for riding such a machine, it was necessary to hire or borrow one for a while. Fortunately one of my friend’s father owned an authentic Russian version (albeit one-wheel drive only) with the side-car on the right hand side ( After locating the ignition key we arranged to pick it up and I gingerly rode it home. The combination of imbalanced traction, poor brake force distribution and sheer inexperience combined to see me disappearing off road even before getting home. But after a week of practice and some adjustments, I got confident enough to open her up all the way to the maximum speed. 100 km/h. Although the Ural was not particularly comfortable, it could certainly be suitable, particularly on bad roads and in colder weather. Colder weather. ![]() With half the trip at mean temperatures below 5ºC (and therefore night times well below freezing) this did not look particularly appealing to people used to sunny skies. A quick calculation of the likely temperature at each location in the reverse direction ( ![]() Riding in the opposite direction had immediate implications on the choice of motorcycle: we would now have to obtain a vehicle in There are various “200-GY” Chinese made bikes sold under various badges such as Zongshen (Dragon), Lifan, Qingqi and Shineray. Check out http://www.mychinamoto.com for some local enthusiast’s blogs. These are basically face-lifted Chinese derivatives of the Honda XL185 with 8 litre tanks, about 240 km range and a 100 km/h claimed top speed. ![]() After trying in vain to find Chinese motorcycle dealers on the internet, I gave up looking and decided that we would just locate one when we got there.
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Do it before you die! Lure of Zanzibar/Mozambique via Vilanculos/Snow in Lesotho?/Great Wall, Iron Curtain/Islands,Falls,Rocks & Blocks/Salt,Silver&Stone/Two Twins Hit Namibia/Caprivi (S)trip 1NiteOwl screwed with this post 08-20-2008 at 03:50 PM |
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08-09-2008, 03:48 PM
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Mod Squad
Joined: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto, ON
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This is going to be great!!
![]() Thanks for the intro and stay away from Georgia! ![]() btw, the person on mychinamoto, is an imate here and has posted two very good ride reports on his Chinese built adventure bike.
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ADV decals, patches & flag? Here GB screwed with this post 08-09-2008 at 05:58 PM |
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08-09-2008, 04:34 PM
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'Bikes are OK, but . . .
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: Bangkok
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I'm sending waves of encouragement. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() OK niteowl, let's get rollin'
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08-09-2008, 06:30 PM
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Office Adventurer
Joined: Jun 2007
Location: Southern Africa
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China
One out of every four people in the world is Chinese.
![]() But foreigners do live in ![]() In order to stay away from the wet and populous coastal areas, we had to commence our trip somewhere in the central plateau. We decided to start in ![]() It set the tone for the trip- even if you can look up a question in a Phrasebook, how do you interpret the response? To make things worse, the meaning of Mandarin speech is strongly related to the pronunciation. And while the alphabet is standardised, there are many local dialects which are very different from the Kunming has a number of interesting sights, but the real must-see attraction there is the Stone Forest, about 120 km south-east of the city. These are actually eroded karst (limestone) rocks and caves which were formed when water receded from the area millions of years ago. It's an amazing sight. The local Sani ladies add some colour. As does the water that remains.
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08-09-2008, 06:58 PM
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Office Adventurer
Joined: Jun 2007
Location: Southern Africa
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Shopping for Bikes
Kunming is one the “clean” cities in
There are lots of them around, but this policy has had a devastating effect on motorcycle dealers trading in our kind of bikes, who have been driven out to the periphery of the city. After spending the morning asking around the scooter shops (a whole block of them) for the Zongshen dealer visited by Beemerboy a few years earlier, we eventually got to a printing shop and made a print of the web page (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222736&page=3). After showing it to a few dealers we eventually hit paydirt when one of them recognised the area and marked it on our map. ![]() We had arranged some help with a local business contact, who could speak English. She picked us up at the hotel the next morning and, after some phone calls, a truck dropped off two crates with our new bikes!
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08-09-2008, 08:03 PM
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Wet Side of the Mountains
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Location: Tacoma, WA
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Curious to see how these bikes work out for you. Great report. |
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08-09-2008, 08:53 PM
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Don't taze me bro.
Joined: Mar 2007
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Awesome. Subscribed.
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08-09-2008, 09:52 PM
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Dusty and Thirsty
Joined: Oct 2007
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Looking forward to this.
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08-09-2008, 09:59 PM
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Fascinaing, thanks for the peek into this part of our planet.
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08-09-2008, 11:43 PM
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Explorer.
Joined: Jan 2008
Location: Manila, Philippines
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Lots of luck on your trip!
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08-10-2008, 02:09 AM
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F5lood.
Joined: Oct 2005
Location: Austria
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Wow. Everything needed for an epic ride, right there!
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08-10-2008, 05:25 AM
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The bikeless wonder
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Should be good!
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08-10-2008, 07:12 AM
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Gnarly Adventurer
Joined: Sep 2007
Location: Perth Australia
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This looks like its going to be a lot of fun - bring it on
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08-10-2008, 05:17 PM
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Adventurer
Joined: Jul 2001
Location: Augusta GA.
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08-10-2008, 07:40 PM
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Groovinator
Joined: Dec 2007
Location: Utarded in Lubbuttock
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Y'all don't have a sense of adventure...y'all have a deep understanding of adventure.
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