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Old 01-22-2015, 08:01 PM   #1
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Krauser Sidecase Latch Help

I have the style with the narrow latches.
They are refusing to stay latched on a consistant basis.
The PO showed me the bolt the case to the rack trick to help the seatbelt latch.
Now the cases will stay on the bike.
Now if I can keep the bags from popping open, that would be optimum.
I hate to resort to a strap.
Does anyone make a kit to rebuild these?
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Old 01-22-2015, 11:51 PM   #2
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New latches used to be available. They are hard to impossible to find nowadays. Don't know if you could change over the locks, think not, which means you would have another key, possibly a different key for each latch .

Mine started failing a year ago. Got the idea for this repair from somebody here but forget who that was.



The hardware store latches are available at the corner hardware store or some places on the internet. My local hardware store has a good selection but they didn't stock this item. I paid less than $20 for four latches on the internet. I have repaired one bag, on one side. I tink I'll be doing the other side this year.

I use a generic strip of Aluminum across the top to create a solid base for the latches. I bought these teeny tiny bolts and washers and nuts in stainless steel from McMaster-Carr to firmly attach everything. Rivets would work also. Extra washers are needed because the latches need to be levelled to allow the hooks to properly attach.

They are a little funky or maybe fiddly in operation. There is a small hole in the latch that will accept a pin to keep it from popping open while you are riding. I have not found anything the right size for this so I use straps right now. Even when I didn't have a pin in the hole or a strap providing security they have never popped open.



I think they look proper on my old bike, sort of industrial.
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Old 01-23-2015, 01:06 AM   #3
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New latches used to be available.
I knew there'd be a catch.
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Old 01-23-2015, 01:27 AM   #4
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I think I saw them recently somewhere but forget where that was. Another brand of bike I think.
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Old 01-23-2015, 02:09 AM   #5
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I think I saw them recently somewhere but forget where that was. Another brand of bike I think.
I've seen them or very similar, on luggage too. Surely they could be repaired, but at what cost.
A good s/hand pair of panniers could be found for a couple hundred.
I bought a pristine pair about three years ago for 300. They're too good to use tho.
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Old 01-23-2015, 02:32 AM   #6
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I hate to resort to a strap.
No matter how secure the bags and lid latches look on the bike a strap is a good idea.

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Old 01-23-2015, 02:35 AM   #7
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Hi,

I got those same latches for storage cabinets in my old apartment's shared car port. I found them at OSH. I got them for pretty much the same reason you did; I thought they looked cool and industrial compared to generic. What can I say; I'm an artist, I care about design, I ride old German, industrial, heavy, metal.

Anyway, I found a pair of padlocks (identical keys) that had a tall and thin enough shackle to fit in the open slot there. The other side would come around and fit into the rebate or notched out end (you can see the curve at the end in the picture). You probably don't want four pad locks bouncing around on your cases though.

These open by flipping up the flat latch and the tension holding the hasp down is relieved so it can slide forward and release the loop it's hooked onto. A pin or bolt through the slot will stop the parts from moving and it can not be opened.
Another solution is to prevent the latch from rising up, that is, to simply keep the latch down with a bar or hasp type thing. Tape would also work pretty well but might be ugly and messy in the long run.

If I did not care too much (but still a little) about the look I might use a strip of Velcro (hook & loop) to go through the hole and then wrap tightly over the latch. That should hold it down. If I recall correctly, the tension makes the latch want to stay closed. I think you only need to worry about sharp bumps or bouncing popping the latch open. For design fun I might glue a few magnets on the inside of the latch top and bottom. Then the magnets would hold down the latch, but you could still pop them open when you wanted.

Looks good so far. Good luck.
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They are a little funky or maybe fiddly in operation. There is a small hole in the latch that will accept a pin to keep it from popping open while you are riding. I have not found anything the right size for this so I use straps right now. Even when I didn't have a pin in the hole or a strap providing security they have never popped open.



I think they look proper on my old bike, sort of industrial.
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Old 01-23-2015, 07:42 AM   #8
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Even when the latches were good I still strapped mine. I ran the strap over the seat hand rail to give the bags a bit of lift as well as keeping them closed, this way the plastic tabs never wore or broke.
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Old 01-23-2015, 09:52 AM   #9
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I did find a kit on ebay for $30.
I would need 4.
And keyed seperately.
How about rerofitting to the (slightly)newer style BMW latches?
At least they appear to pull the case lid closed, unlike mine.
(Though the r65 pictured above still uses a strap).
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Old 01-23-2015, 09:55 AM   #10
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I think they look proper on my old bike, sort of industrial.
I have these on the RT. They work well, but I run a strap over em after reading that book from Neil Peart and him having lost a pannier on a trip only to discover some hunderd miles later. And it was a Oilhead not an airhead but still made me nervous.
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Old 01-23-2015, 11:51 AM   #11
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Motobins has the new improved latches.
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Old 01-23-2015, 04:37 PM   #12
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I have these on the RT. They work well, but I run a strap over em after reading that book from Neil Peart and him having lost a pannier on a trip only to discover some hunderd miles later. And it was a Oilhead not an airhead but still made me nervous.
Mine have a bolt through the top front of the rack to the backside of each case.
They are fixed with a wingnut and a lockwasher. Not going anywhere.
Lids are a different story.
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^^

I like that.
Good idea.
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Old 01-23-2015, 05:02 PM   #14
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Motobins has the new improved latches.
Thanks.
$87.00
Thinking about it.
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Old 01-23-2015, 05:06 PM   #15
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I like that.
Good idea.
P.O. (Ivan Rider) did this.
My contribution was to swap out the hex nut for a wingnut & lockwasher to save having to use 2 wrenches to remove the case.
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