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Old 11-18-2009, 08:03 PM   #751
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Anyone want to chime in on my wheel play?


I think 1 mm is about right.


Don't worry about it.


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Old 11-18-2009, 08:35 PM   #752
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Not exactly true.

The Adventure's have lower gearing???

Yes, the ADV bikes have lower gearing than the regular GS. FD's on the 1150 and the 1200's oviously are totally different. Seems like between the FD and the key antennae failures, the 1150 was a little more sorted. And since the '06 was the last in line, it seems like they have them pretty well figured out. And FWIW, I've heard of 300% more tanks failing on these 06's than I've heard of FD failures. (aren't statistics great...they say whatever you want them to say. )
Oh and get your FD fluid changed by someone who knows these bikes. My local guy wroks on all the local cop bikes and it's very conforting to hear "there is no metal in your fluid" and the ""fluid looks good, no concerns at all" ahhhhh now, that's better.
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Old 11-18-2009, 08:37 PM   #753
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actually, exactly true; the gearing in the ADV is only different in the transmission.

FWIW, the third failure i had was on a FD from another model (so i could get yet a lower 33/11 FD ratio); an R1100R, IIRC. point being, it's not just 1150 FDs that are failing.


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The Adventure's have lower gearing???



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Old 11-18-2009, 08:49 PM   #754
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"revision" for the '06s? color me skeptical, but unless you can point to a specific change and it shows up as a different P/N, i'd have to call BS.

don't kid yourself; some of them work great forever, and some of them just don't. read around in the rest of the world outside of this thread, and '06s don't seem to be immune to FD failures, no matter whether they're GSs or other (11xx) models. (note that my last FD issue was with a later factory-supplied FD from a completely different model of a later production run.)

am i an '06 owner? no; i've been an ADV owner since '02. (you could've looked at my profile, eh?)

as for your wheel play, i wouldn't be safe making a guess without seeing how you're measuring it in person. i don't dare assume that wheel bolts are tight, etc.

EDIT:
there was no play evident before any of the 3 failures i had.


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If you go back through, there is some discussion of the '06s having some sort of revision to the FD....and therefore a lower likelihood of failure.

Having nothing what-so-ever to do with the ADV gearing.

And

Are you, Mr 3X failure, a 06 1150GS ADV owner? What number on the registry are you (curious about your relation to my production date)?

Anyone want to chime in on my wheel play?
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Old 11-19-2009, 05:47 AM   #755
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FWIW, I had close to 100k miles spread across several 02-06 1150 Adventures before mine crapped out. My 06 had 20,000 miles on it when it died. Immediately before failure I had zero play in the back wheel. I checked it because I suspected it was the FD. It did feel like I was riding on a washboard road and it got progressively worse. The seal finally blew, resulting in the photos shown earlier. The only other indicator I saw was when spinning the back wheel, the caliper wobbled in and out as if the rotor was warped.

If you have wheel play, please for God's sake check your lug nuts and make sure they are properly torqued. When you hear hoof beats, think horses and not zebras.
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Old 11-19-2009, 05:51 AM   #756
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When you hear hoof beats, think horses and not zebras.


I will have a go at the wheel lugs when I get back to the left coast (writing this from the Admirals Club @ JFK)....
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Old 11-19-2009, 05:52 AM   #757
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Part 2 to this reply, lol.

I changed the fluid for the first time on the new FD. The plug was thick with metal sludge and the pan had a nice metal shimmer in the fluid. I was only able to get about 6 ounces out when the specs call for about 8. If my brother (BMW tech at Gateway BMW) hadn't been the one to do the work on the new drive, I might be concerned about the work. He's a top notch mechanic so I'm taking that possibility off the table. So where did the other 2oz of gear oil go?

BTW, the new FD has a two year, unlimited mileage warranty.

I too heard something about the 06 having some sort of fix to the final drive. That being said, it has the same part number so I'm calling shenanigans.
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Old 11-22-2009, 09:00 AM   #758
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I too heard something about the 06 having some sort of fix to the final drive. That being said, it has the same part number so I'm calling shenanigans.
Does BMW always change part numbers when they change suppliers?
You know, I'm getting to where we just need to travel to Germany and feret this out. WHO's WITH ME?



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Does BMW always change part numbers when they change suppliers?
You know, I'm getting to where we just need to travel to Germany and feret this out. WHO's WITH ME?



I can see it now... you and I prowling through Germany demanding answers and always getting the same comment "Americans are huge!"
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Old 11-22-2009, 12:02 PM   #760
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Old 12-01-2009, 08:49 PM   #761
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Quick question. What kind of mileage are ya'll guys getting out of a tank? I've been looking at a '06 GS1150 Adv with 12k miles on it. Thanks
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Quick question. What kind of mileage are ya'll guys getting out of a tank? I've been looking at a '06 GS1150 Adv with 12k miles on it. Thanks
I rode from LA to PHX Sunday, average speed over 85mph, got just about 250 from a tank before getting nervous about that big yellow light on the dash.
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I rode from LA to PHX Sunday, average speed over 85mph, got just about 250 from a tank before getting nervous about that big yellow light on the dash.
About how many gallons do you think you used?
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About how many gallons do you think you used?
IIRC the pump claimed 6.5-ish - I don't really pay attention to such things and when I do, I'm always surprised at what the pump says.

I believe that my mileage is a bit lower than what others may experience, we're talking about a bike with 62,000 miles on it, knobbies, jesses (loaded) top case and a ginormous cee baileys screen for my blasts across the desert.
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Old 12-01-2009, 09:16 PM   #765
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310 is my max on a tank. Still had about 1/2 gallon left. Probably a little too close for comfort.
Fully loaded at pretty high speeds on the GRN I was getting 245 to 265. Still had a gallon left at the end, but didn't want to take any chances.
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