'06 1150 GSA Thread - Page 51

Whip · 11-18-2009, 08:03 PM

Anyone want to chime in on my wheel play?

I think 1 mm is about right.

Don't worry about it.

idea man · 11-18-2009, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whip

Not exactly true.

The Adventure's have lower gearing???

Yes, the ADV bikes have lower gearing than the regular GS. FD's on the 1150 and the 1200's oviously are totally different. Seems like between the FD and the key antennae failures, the 1150 was a little more sorted. And since the '06 was the last in line, it seems like they have them pretty well figured out. And FWIW, I've heard of 300% more tanks failing on these 06's than I've heard of FD failures. (aren't statistics great...they say whatever you want them to say.

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Oh and get your FD fluid changed by someone who knows these bikes. My local guy wroks on all the local cop bikes and it's very conforting to hear "there is no metal in your fluid" and the ""fluid looks good, no concerns at all" ahhhhh now, that's better.

zouch · 11-18-2009, 08:37 PM

actually, exactly true; the gearing in the ADV is only different in the transmission.

FWIW, the third failure i had was on a FD from another model (so i could get yet a lower 33/11 FD ratio); an R1100R, IIRC. point being, it's not just 1150 FDs that are failing.

cheers!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whip

Not exactly true.

The Adventure's have lower gearing???

zouch · 11-18-2009, 08:49 PM

"revision" for the '06s? color me skeptical, but unless you can point to a specific change and it shows up as a different P/N, i'd have to call BS.

don't kid yourself; some of them work great forever, and some of them just don't. read around in the rest of the world outside of this thread, and '06s don't seem to be immune to FD failures, no matter whether they're GSs or other (11xx) models. (note that my last FD issue was with a later factory-supplied FD from a completely different model of a later production run.)

am i an '06 owner? no; i've been an ADV owner since '02. (you could've looked at my profile, eh?)

as for your wheel play, i wouldn't be safe making a guess without seeing how you're measuring it in person. i don't dare assume that wheel bolts are tight, etc.

EDIT:
there was no play evident before any of the 3 failures i had.

cheers!

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradatlarge

If you go back through, there is some discussion of the '06s having some sort of revision to the FD....and therefore a lower likelihood of failure.

Having nothing what-so-ever to do with the ADV gearing.

And

Are you, Mr 3X failure, a 06 1150GS ADV owner? What number on the registry are you (curious about your relation to my production date)?

Anyone want to chime in on my wheel play?

ericb67 · 11-19-2009, 05:47 AM

FWIW, I had close to 100k miles spread across several 02-06 1150 Adventures before mine crapped out. My 06 had 20,000 miles on it when it died. Immediately before failure I had zero play in the back wheel. I checked it because I suspected it was the FD. It did feel like I was riding on a washboard road and it got progressively worse. The seal finally blew, resulting in the photos shown earlier. The only other indicator I saw was when spinning the back wheel, the caliper wobbled in and out as if the rotor was warped.

If you have wheel play, please for God's sake check your lug nuts and make sure they are properly torqued. When you hear hoof beats, think horses and not zebras.

bradatlarge · 11-19-2009, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ericb67

When you hear hoof beats, think horses and not zebras.

I will have a go at the wheel lugs when I get back to the left coast (writing this from the Admirals Club @ JFK)....

ericb67 · 11-19-2009, 05:52 AM

Part 2 to this reply, lol.

I changed the fluid for the first time on the new FD. The plug was thick with metal sludge and the pan had a nice metal shimmer in the fluid. I was only able to get about 6 ounces out when the specs call for about 8. If my brother (BMW tech at Gateway BMW) hadn't been the one to do the work on the new drive, I might be concerned about the work. He's a top notch mechanic so I'm taking that possibility off the table. So where did the other 2oz of gear oil go?

BTW, the new FD has a two year, unlimited mileage warranty.

I too heard something about the 06 having some sort of fix to the final drive. That being said, it has the same part number so I'm calling shenanigans.

idea man · 11-22-2009, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericb67

I too heard something about the 06 having some sort of fix to the final drive. That being said, it has the same part number so I'm calling shenanigans.

Does BMW always change part numbers when they change suppliers?
You know, I'm getting to where we just need to travel to Germany and feret this out. WHO's WITH ME?

ericb67 · 11-22-2009, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idea man

Does BMW always change part numbers when they change suppliers?
You know, I'm getting to where we just need to travel to Germany and feret this out. WHO's WITH ME?

I can see it now... you and I prowling through Germany demanding answers and always getting the same comment "Americans are huge!"

bradatlarge · 11-22-2009, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by idea man

In!

Behindbars · 12-01-2009, 08:49 PM

Quick question. What kind of mileage are ya'll guys getting out of a tank? I've been looking at a '06 GS1150 Adv with 12k miles on it. Thanks

bradatlarge · 12-01-2009, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Behindbars

Quick question. What kind of mileage are ya'll guys getting out of a tank? I've been looking at a '06 GS1150 Adv with 12k miles on it. Thanks

I rode from LA to PHX Sunday, average speed over 85mph, got just about 250 from a tank before getting nervous about that big yellow light on the dash.

Behindbars · 12-01-2009, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradatlarge

I rode from LA to PHX Sunday, average speed over 85mph, got just about 250 from a tank before getting nervous about that big yellow light on the dash.

About how many gallons do you think you used?

bradatlarge · 12-01-2009, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Behindbars

About how many gallons do you think you used?

IIRC the pump claimed 6.5-ish - I don't really pay attention to such things and when I do, I'm always surprised at what the pump says.

I believe that my mileage is a bit lower than what others may experience, we're talking about a bike with 62,000 miles on it, knobbies, jesses (loaded) top case and a ginormous cee baileys screen for my blasts across the desert.

idea man · 12-01-2009, 09:16 PM

310 is my max on a tank. Still had about 1/2 gallon left. Probably a little too close for comfort.
Fully loaded at pretty high speeds on the GRN I was getting 245 to 265. Still had a gallon left at the end, but didn't want to take any chances.

11-18-2009, 08:03 PM	#751
Whip Onward through the fog Joined: Mar 2005 Location: San Antonio Tx Oddometer: 603	Anyone want to chime in on my wheel play? I think 1 mm is about right. Don't worry about it. __________________ 2006 KTM 950 Adventure, 2006 1150 GS Adventure 2011 KTM 990 DAKAR, 1999 ZRX1100 www.whip.smugmug.com I'm their leader...Which way did they go???

11-19-2009, 05:47 AM	#755
ericb67 Studly Adventurer Joined: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago Oddometer: 585	FWIW, I had close to 100k miles spread across several 02-06 1150 Adventures before mine crapped out. My 06 had 20,000 miles on it when it died. Immediately before failure I had zero play in the back wheel. I checked it because I suspected it was the FD. It did feel like I was riding on a washboard road and it got progressively worse. The seal finally blew, resulting in the photos shown earlier. The only other indicator I saw was when spinning the back wheel, the caliper wobbled in and out as if the rotor was warped. If you have wheel play, please for God's sake check your lug nuts and make sure they are properly torqued. When you hear hoof beats, think horses and not zebras. __________________ IBA # 33073 2006 R1150GS Adventure, "Moby Dick" 2006 R1150GS Adventure thread 2006 R1150GS Adventure Registry "No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle." - Winston Churchill "We are all destined to die, some choose to live while alive" - Davo Jones - RIP

11-19-2009, 05:52 AM	#757
ericb67 Studly Adventurer Joined: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago Oddometer: 585	Part 2 to this reply, lol. I changed the fluid for the first time on the new FD. The plug was thick with metal sludge and the pan had a nice metal shimmer in the fluid. I was only able to get about 6 ounces out when the specs call for about 8. If my brother (BMW tech at Gateway BMW) hadn't been the one to do the work on the new drive, I might be concerned about the work. He's a top notch mechanic so I'm taking that possibility off the table. So where did the other 2oz of gear oil go? BTW, the new FD has a two year, unlimited mileage warranty. I too heard something about the 06 having some sort of fix to the final drive. That being said, it has the same part number so I'm calling shenanigans. __________________ IBA # 33073 2006 R1150GS Adventure, "Moby Dick" 2006 R1150GS Adventure thread 2006 R1150GS Adventure Registry "No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle." - Winston Churchill "We are all destined to die, some choose to live while alive" - Davo Jones - RIP

12-01-2009, 08:49 PM	#761
Behindbars Let's Ride Joined: Mar 2006 Location: Groves,TX Oddometer: 611	Quick question. What kind of mileage are ya'll guys getting out of a tank? I've been looking at a '06 GS1150 Adv with 12k miles on it. Thanks __________________ 2011 Kawasaki Concours 14 2009 KTM 950 Super Enduro

12-01-2009, 09:16 PM	#765
idea man ^OP Plate Spinner Joined: Jun 2006 Location: 101 and 246, CA Oddometer: 2,510	310 is my max on a tank. Still had about 1/2 gallon left. Probably a little too close for comfort. Fully loaded at pretty high speeds on the GRN I was getting 245 to 265. Still had a gallon left at the end, but didn't want to take any chances. __________________ "You know sir, there is a fine line between Badass and Dumbass." Medical Records Lady []'06 1150 GSA Thread: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=375824[]'06 1150 GSA SE Registry: http://www.ericsyn.com/2006bmwr1150gsadv.html[*]Great Ride North, Alaska/Yukon '09 http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=494846[/LIST]

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