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Old 12-20-2011, 08:08 AM   #5761
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:23 AM   #5762
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When the bike is warm or the ambient temp is warm then it's a one kicker.

I can't tell how many times i've heard those words, usually right after 6 guys have kicked on the fooker about 32 times; ". . uh . . it always starts RIGHT up . ."
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:06 AM   #5763
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The cheapest, best, and easiest carb mod is to put a Mikuni TM40 on it. It really does run sweet.

Take a look here:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...postcount=4511

I mentioned in that post that I have one kick cold starts - but I later found out that it takes a few more kicks than that below 50 degrees F. But you have a good choke and an accelerator pump to give it an extra squirt. It just takes a little experimenting to find the right choke-squirt combo to get it started when it's really cold without giving it too much and flooding it.

When the bike is warm or the ambient temp is warm then it's a one kicker.

Maybe the bike is new to you and you don't have the kick sequence down yet?

1. Kick over slowly until you come to the compression stroke and you hear the compression release on the cam click

2. Pull the compression release on the handle bar

3. Kick it another 1/4 or 1/3

4. Release the compression release lever

5. Come back up to the top with the kickstart and kick her down.

It takes a little practice but once you remember the sequence you can almost start it setting on the seat.

With the proper sequence and a TM40 on there you will make the KTM owners envious as the kick the crap out of their cold bikes after they drained their battery.
Thanks for the info. (I will print this and tape it to my gas tank.)

Yes, it is new to me. I just picked it up on Sunday. I kicked it 4-5 times without success. Mike started it in about 2 kicks. I have complete confidence that when I learn the procedure it will not be a problem. Everybody else seems concerned, however.

And Aaron, I will save the fork rebuild for you. You bring a rock, I will bring a stick. (sorry, private joke)
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Old 12-20-2011, 10:47 AM   #5764
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Yea, I've heard it before too.

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I can't tell how many times i've heard those words, usually right after 6 guys have kicked on the fooker about 32 times; ". . uh . . it always starts RIGHT up . ."
For any XRR owner that is interested - let me know when you are on a GLDS ride and I will look for you and show you what I did and how easy it starts.

(By the way, I also put CRF forks on and they worked out very nicely. There is a super easy way to do that also.)
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Old 12-20-2011, 10:49 AM   #5765
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You can do it.

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Thanks for the info. (I will print this and tape it to my gas tank.)

Yes, it is new to me. I just picked it up on Sunday. I kicked it 4-5 times without success. Mike started it in about 2 kicks. I have complete confidence that when I learn the procedure it will not be a problem. Everybody else seems concerned, however.

And Aaron, I will save the fork rebuild for you. You bring a rock, I will bring a stick. (sorry, private joke)
The previous owner of my bike laughed at me when I first tried to start it. It really is just the procedure that does it.
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Old 12-20-2011, 11:18 AM   #5766
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For any XRR owner that is interested - let me know when you are on a GLDS ride and I will look for you and show you what I did and how easy it starts.

(By the way, I also put CRF forks on and they worked out very nicely. There is a super easy way to do that also.)
I think you should go with reworked BMW forks.
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Old 12-20-2011, 11:23 AM   #5767
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I have an XR-400, not a -650 XR, but one you find the proper seqenece it works like magic, here is mine

Kick slowly at least 10 times for first start of the day
full choke
Find TCD, at top of stroke
Kick hard, and near the bottom of the stroke give the thottle about 1/8 to 1/4 turn quick blip.
Unless I do this exactly I am screwed

For a cold winter ride same as above but put your wifes blow drier on high for at least 15 minute on the intake side of the cylinder

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Old 12-20-2011, 12:28 PM   #5768
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put your wifes blow drier on high for at least 15 minute on the intake side of the cylinder
Now there's a new use for the blow drier. I thought i'd seen it all when the dude in the locker room used his to dry off his balls after a shower.
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Old 12-20-2011, 01:32 PM   #5769
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Now there's a new use for the blow drier. I thought i'd seen it all when the dude in the locker room used his to dry off his balls after a shower.
See, blow dryers are a gift giving idea even for bald guys..............However not for bald eunuchs.
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Old 12-20-2011, 01:58 PM   #5770
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See, blow dryers are a gift giving idea even for bald guys..............However not for bald eunuchs.
So, even if you are going bald, it could be worse.........unless you are already a eunuch.
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:38 PM   #5771
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Now there's a new use for the blow drier. I thought i'd seen it all when the dude in the locker room used his to dry off his balls after a shower.

Don't knock it till you try it,,,, useing it to warm your engine that is.

Seroiusly both Huskies need to go in for some service R&R and my XR-400 may need an upper end rebuild as it is loving oil these days. This task is beyond my scope, any recomended shops in the Nortvhille/Plymouth Canton area?

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Old 12-20-2011, 04:21 PM   #5772
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The cheapest, best, and easiest carb mod is to put a Mikuni TM40 on it. It really does run sweet.

Take a look here:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...postcount=4511

I mentioned in that post that I have one kick cold starts - but I later found out that it takes a few more kicks than that below 50 degrees F. But you have a good choke and an accelerator pump to give it an extra squirt. It just takes a little experimenting to find the right choke-squirt combo to get it started when it's really cold without giving it too much and flooding it.

When the bike is warm or the ambient temp is warm then it's a one kicker.

Maybe the bike is new to you and you don't have the kick sequence down yet?

1. Kick over slowly until you come to the compression stroke and you hear the compression release on the cam click

2. Pull the compression release on the handle bar

3. Kick it another 1/4 or 1/3

4. Release the compression release lever

5. Come back up to the top with the kickstart and kick her down.

It takes a little practice but once you remember the sequence you can almost start it setting on the seat.

With the proper sequence and a TM40 on there you will make the KTM owners envious as the kick the crap out of their cold bikes after they drained their battery.

First i turn the key.
Then turn the choke on full.
Take a deep breath.
Push the start button.
Watch Honduh guys sweat and do special starting dances. These traditional dances usually get contagious as other "non hondah" guys try to get a kick in.

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Old 12-20-2011, 04:23 PM   #5773
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So you're selling used cars part time?

I have a new toy.
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Old 12-20-2011, 05:15 PM   #5774
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You forgot the curse words

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First i turn the key.
Then turn the choke on full.
Take a deep breath.
Push the start button.
Watch Honduh guys sweat and do special starting dances. These traditional dances usually get contagious as other "non hondah" guys try to get a kick in.

You forgot the curse words - you know the ones the KTM guys use right before they load their bike in the truck.

I'm just giving ya a hard time. I like KTMs too. Just can't afford to pay for all those broken engine parts. Maybe someday when I'm rich...
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:29 PM   #5775
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Saw this message from GLDS. ACT NOW

USFS Action Needed by 12/21/11

Email the USFS and tell them you support alternative #3 for the Forest
Plan SEIS and uses allowed in Semi-Primitive Non-Motorized (SPNM)
Areas of the Huron-Manistee National Forests.

This alternative changes all current semi-primative non-motorized
management areas to fit their actual usage by the public.

Send the email to:

comments-eastern-huron-manistee@fs.fed.us

Fax to: 231-775-5551 if emailing is not your thing.

Put your own spin on it. Tell them you also actively enjoy not only
hunting and snowmobiling but ALSO your street licensed off highway
motorcycle as well as your ATV and desire more opportunities to
recreate with them on USFS public land.

Form letters only count as one letter, so make your own letter!!!!!

Comments must be received by December 21, 2011

Here's the nutshell version:

The USFS has been sued by a tree hugger who wants to eliminate all
motorized and "noise making" activity in the forest.

To comply with the ruling, the USFS must revisit management practices
and make a decision. They have come up with 4 choices:

1. Do nothing (and get sued some more).
2. Close snowmobile trails and eliminate hunting on much of USFS land.
3. Change the designation on some areas that could be closed to
hunting/snowmobiling and designate them as specifically open to such
uses.
4. Close roads in more areas to effectively limit any recreation on
them.

Item 4 is the USFS's preferred choice. It will be VERY BAD for us if
this do this. It IS what they HAVE been doing and why we keep losing
so many forest roads to ride on.

MSA's view on this:
http://www.msasnow.org/index.php?opt...d=70&Itemid=80

USFS link:
http://prdp2fs.ess.usda.gov/wps/port...s%20Management
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