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Old 12-16-2014, 08:57 PM   #1
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super tenere 2013 power vs 2014

There are a lot of bargains on leftover 2013 models,is the 2014 base model to base model really worth the difference mostly concerned about the power difference. Some of the magazines report the power being down on the tenere,I don't know because I haven't ridden one.the dealers in my area don't even know what one is ,so they don't have any and don't plan to get any.Let me know your thought if anyone has ridden both bikes.I have been holding out for a good deal on the 14 only because it is suppose to have more get up and go.But the 13 models are priced really low.Thanks
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Old 12-16-2014, 09:28 PM   #2
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Well i have a 2012 with the ECU reflashed and i test rode a 2014,and i can't tell the difference between the 2.
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Old 12-16-2014, 09:46 PM   #3
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The power diff is not large.

The "feel" i guess is the difference.

Reflash. I have not done it. But i will just to see. Everyone says good things about it.

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Old 12-17-2014, 03:34 AM   #4
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Well i have a 2012 with the ECU reflashed and i test rode a 2014,and i can't tell the difference between the 2.
I had a 2012 with reflash and my 2014 feels quite a bit stronger. I felt my 12 was a bit of a turd.
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Old 12-17-2014, 06:34 AM   #5
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I had a 2012 with reflash and my 2014 feels quite a bit stronger. I felt my 12 was a bit of a turd.
Who flashed your 2012, and what flash did you have installed?

My 2013, that I had Anthony flash, and my buddies 2014 feel almost identical in Sport mode. My Touring mode feels better because of the flash that I had done.
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Old 12-18-2014, 04:45 PM   #6
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Who flashed your 2012, and what flash did you have installed?

My 2013, that I had Anthony flash, and my buddies 2014 feel almost identical in Sport mode. My Touring mode feels better because of the flash that I had done.
thanks for the help.Does the dealer do this reflashing under warranty if you buy the bike new.Im leaning towards a 13.
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Old 12-18-2014, 05:30 PM   #7
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thanks for the help.Does the dealer do this reflashing under warranty if you buy the bike new.Im leaning towards a 13.
No.

I have never heard of this happening. Someone chime in if I'm wrong.
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Old 12-18-2014, 05:36 PM   #8
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Who flashed your 2012, and what flash did you have installed?

My 2013, that I had Anthony flash, and my buddies 2014 feel almost identical in Sport mode. My Touring mode feels better because of the flash that I had done.
ECU-unleashed done by AF-1. The bike was better after the flash but it was still a turd.
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Old 12-18-2014, 08:56 PM   #9
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ECU-unleashed done by AF-1. The bike was better after the flash but it was still a turd.
Therein lies the difference. I have ridden a couple of AF-1 tuned Tenere's and they don't behave the same as mine that AVC did. Not that they were bad, just didn't feel as crisp and smooth. I didn't do anything wild, just the enhanced T and enhanced S. I also had a bit of the deceleration decreased so it would be smoother. I never did the CJM.

Stock out of the box, the 2014 is much improved over a stock '12/'13. $200 and a few days, that's all cured.
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Old 12-18-2014, 09:27 PM   #10
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ECU-unleashed done by AF-1. The bike was better after the flash but it was still a turd.
Wow! The 2014 i took out must of been a turd as well then Because it pulled just like mine.
Or, maybe your 2012 was really a turd? A Friday bike maybe?
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Therein lies the difference. I have ridden a couple of AF-1 tuned Tenere's and they don't behave the same as mine that AVC did. Not that they were bad, just didn't feel as crisp and smooth. I didn't do anything wild, just the enhanced T and enhanced S. I also had a bit of the deceleration decreased so it would be smoother. I never did the CJM.

Stock out of the box, the 2014 is much improved over a stock '12/'13. $200 and a few days, that's all cured.
I too have Anthony's basic reflash. Love it, much more pull in s mode, smoother, more refined in t mode. Well worth the $.
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Old 12-19-2014, 04:27 PM   #12
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ECU-unleashed done by AF-1. The bike was better after the flash but it was still a turd.
AF-1 is flashing ECUnleashed. They did 2 main iterations. Their first iteration was known to be "soft". I wonder if you had that.

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AF-1 is flashing ECUnleashed. They did 2 main iterations. Their first iteration was known to be "soft". I wonder if you had that.

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91 rear wheel hp shouldn't be that much of a turd should it.I have ridden bmw for ever and now have a 1200GSAW bmw and triumph 1050 tiger and neither one sets the world on fire either,the bmw is pretty good,is the power on the tenere way worse than these bikes,I would go ride one if any dealer in my area had one.Henserson ky area.
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Old 12-19-2014, 07:05 PM   #14
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91 rear wheel hp shouldn't be that much of a turd should it.I have ridden bmw for ever and now have a 1200GSAW bmw and triumph 1050 tiger and neither one sets the world on fire either,the bmw is pretty good,is the power on the tenere way worse than these bikes,I would go ride one if any dealer in my area had one.Henserson ky area.
I had a Buell 1125CR before my 2012 S10. So to say the change from ~130 rwhp to ~90 rwhp was "shocking" is an understatement. When I left the dealer I rode about 20 miles in "T" mode. I literally almost turned around and asked for my money back (no test rides allowed, I had just handed him a bag of $100s). I found "S" and decided the bike was "meh, but ok". After 12k miles, I started working on the ECU. Now...after about 30 iterations and 44k miles I am "happy". The bike has snap, throttle response is crisp. The bike responds.

Is it a sportbike? Hell no. Is it fun? Heck yeah!

I spent ~1k miles on a buddy's 1200GS over a weekend. I also rode his S10 that I flashed back to back. I liked the S10 better. My flashed S10 has sharper throttle response and the engine is snappier. The BMW felt "flat" to me. I know that was exactly what BMW wanted.

You really have to ride them both.

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Old 12-19-2014, 07:27 PM   #15
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91 rear wheel hp shouldn't be that much of a turd should it.I have ridden bmw for ever and now have a 1200GSAW bmw and triumph 1050 tiger and neither one sets the world on fire either,the bmw is pretty good,is the power on the tenere way worse than these bikes,I would go ride one if any dealer in my area had one.Henserson ky area.
I'm not that far north of you, and could get together in a spot in between for a bit of riding. You would be more than welcome to take my ST out for a spin.
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