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Old 02-08-2012, 06:50 AM   #2851
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I sold my MTS12 after purchasing the S10. No wheel replacements out there, it is a SSSA (190/55/17) so will require a very special wheel. The balance of the bike is nearly 50/50 so it does very well off road on the 17" front.

Service requirements and how hard it is to work on made the difference for me.

I did not have the ABS so can't comment, but the TC was very intrusive compared to the S10 which is very transparent to the point you don't even notice it.

I weighed them both the same day and found about 50 lbs difference, but the MTS12 feels lighter than that when pushing it around. Short chutes I zoomed to 115 mph on the MTS12, I now do 85 mph on the S10, corners are still fun tho as you know.
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Old 02-08-2012, 09:23 AM   #2852
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Hay listen mate don't treat me like a dickhead, I'm only commenting on my bike. At the moment I have a error code come up on the dash DES which I have had it back but need to take it back next tuesday because they don't know how to clear it so they need to go through a process of illimination. Maybe there is something wrong with my bike not allowing it to be a superbike, the same with Ramv's bike. There's 2 of us commenting about it so what's that make us both fuckheads ah!
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Sorry you were offended by the question of whether you test rode the bike before you bought it. Seems like a pretty benign question to me, and was intended as such.

You posted to a public board that you don't like the power delivery of the MTS12. OK, either you're just venting, or you want feedback. I'm trying to understand how this came about. Did you test ride it and your bike is somehow different? Did you not test ride it and found that it doesn't suit you? Again, all pretty tame.

And no, I've never said anything about you or Ram being a f*ckhead, but in your case I'll consider it. And since this IS a public board, I'll post what I feel is appropriate, not what someone tells me to do "In the future....".

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Old 02-08-2012, 06:33 PM   #2853
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Right on Sock Monkey, I think kieran is a troll. I can't believe anyone would think the mutley is under powered, the bloody thing will wheelie in all modes.
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Old 02-08-2012, 08:02 PM   #2854
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Sock, liked your cat post!

I did not get an opportunity to test ride (the local dealers with the exception of BMW don't do test rides, which is part of the reason I bought used on my KTM, no test ride was offered on the Adventure 990R, even though I had bought two bikes in a row from that dealer).

The torque curves are interesting, I definitely don't "feel" that and I would think 45% should be noticable? It runs very well, and I absolutely will slam it into the rev limiter (it definitely doesn't drop off like some bike near redline), if I try to wheelie or get carried away on accelerating in first. It gets to 60 pretty fast and with the 14t it hits the rev limiter about 62.

I definitely don't like the DTC, but it has an off switch, and I am much happier with it now that I have simply disabled it.

Compared to the SE950R, it feels very refined and tame. The Ducati is probably quicker, definitely on top but certainly doesn't have the excitement in getting there. For fun, I ride the SE. For going to meetings, riding 2 up, or just long distances, the MTS seems to do fine. 10 k miles with no dealer vists other then 600 and 7500 maintenance and one rear tire in between.
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Old 02-09-2012, 01:20 AM   #2855
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Hey there inmates. Sorry to be an absolute lazy prick but I just want a bit of advice and this is the best place to get it.
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I read your post and thought you'd be right at home on a BMW R1200GS.
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Old 02-09-2012, 06:00 AM   #2856
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Hay listen mate don't treat me like a dickhead, I'm only commenting on my bike. At the moment I have a error code come up on the dash DES which I have had it back but need to take it back next tuesday because they don't know how to clear it so they need to go through a process of illimination. Maybe there is something wrong with my bike not allowing it to be a superbike, the same with Ramv's bike. There's 2 of us commenting about it so what's that make us both fuckheads ah!
In future to keep the brother hood what do you want us to agree with what's ever posted

kieran

I too have the DES error. mine is pre load which the dealer was investigating before they went bust. happens when try to change out of Urban mode and then clears when switch off the bike for a while. means being stuck in urban until I stop the bikeMy nearest dealer now is 2 hours away so would appreciate if you could keep us informed if you manage to get the DES rectified. Over on Ducati.ms there are a number of cases but were all rectified by a different solution

Anyone else had this and found a solution?

Thanks
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:19 AM   #2857
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kieran

I too have the DES error. mine is pre load which the dealer was investigating before they went bust. happens when try to change out of Urban mode and then clears when switch off the bike for a while. means being stuck in urban until I stop the bikeMy nearest dealer now is 2 hours away so would appreciate if you could keep us informed if you manage to get the DES rectified. Over on Ducati.ms there are a number of cases but were all rectified by a different solution

Anyone else had this and found a solution?

Thanks
I had this - DES preload error - rectified by a new shock ecu. Previous attempts to reset it or download a different software were only temporarily successful. Since the new shock ecu, no issues in about 10k miles.

The fact that you need a shock ecu is another discussion entirely, but speaks to the complexity of the bike. One of the reasons that I'll be getting an extended warranty.
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:28 AM   #2858
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I had this - DES preload error - rectified by a new shock ecu. Previous attempts to reset it or download a different software were only temporarily successful. Since the new shock ecu, no issues in about 10k miles.

The fact that you need a shock ecu is another discussion entirely, but speaks to the complexity of the bike. One of the reasons that I'll be getting an extended warranty.

thanks Dave.
i will get this done and also will be having the extended warranty.
Due to this and the dealer going bust I was starting to look at the K1600GT. came to my senses thankfully!
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:35 AM   #2859
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Multi 1200...rear brake pedal help

All,

New to the MS1200 after coming off a 12GS and am very pleased with the bike so far.

One problem that I am having with the bike is the size of the "pad" on the rear brake pedal being too small for my large feet. Don't wear the boy toy racer boots so this probably doesn't help.

Have searched the internet for a foot pedal enlarger of some type to no avail. The only thing that seems to be available is the DP set with footpegs, new shifter lever and rear brake pedal for close to a grand, which is definitely beyond my budget.

Does anyone know of a work around to this situation short of going the DP route or heading to the machine shop?

Any and all help would be appreciated.
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Old 02-09-2012, 11:50 AM   #2860
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I too have the DES error. mine is pre load which the dealer was investigating before they went bust. happens when try to change out of Urban mode and then clears when switch off the bike for a while. means being stuck in urban until I stop the bikeMy nearest dealer now is 2 hours away so would appreciate if you could keep us informed if you manage to get the DES rectified. Over on Ducati.ms there are a number of cases but were all rectified by a different solution

Anyone else had this and found a solution?

Thanks
Can you tell me what page this was on, and yes I will get back to you on the out come.
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Old 02-09-2012, 12:58 PM   #2861
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Can you tell me what page this was on, and yes I will get back to you on the out come.
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Old 02-09-2012, 04:14 PM   #2862
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All,

New to the MS1200 after coming off a 12GS and am very pleased with the bike so far.

One problem that I am having with the bike is the size of the "pad" on the rear brake pedal being too small for my large feet. Don't wear the boy toy racer boots so this probably doesn't help.

Have searched the internet for a foot pedal enlarger of some type to no avail. The only thing that seems to be available is the DP set with footpegs, new shifter lever and rear brake pedal for close to a grand, which is definitely beyond my budget.

Does anyone know of a work around to this situation short of going the DP route or heading to the machine shop?

Any and all help would be appreciated.
I don't have any actual assistance, so I will offer this - the rear brake doesn't work worth a shit so don't worry about it. Alternatively, you could get used to it - I ride in Sidi Adventure boots and I don't have any problems with the brake pedal - I did in tall a larger shift lever though.
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Old 02-09-2012, 04:24 PM   #2863
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My wife of 47 read the posts about the lack of passenger comfort. Her response, "try riding on the back of a f'ing Buell".
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Old 02-10-2012, 09:37 PM   #2864
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My wife likes the MS pillion way more than the GS1200.... just sayin.
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Old 02-12-2012, 05:21 AM   #2865
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I too have the DES error. mine is pre load which the dealer was investigating before they went bust. happens when try to change out of Urban mode and then clears when switch off the bike for a while. means being stuck in urban until I stop the bikeMy nearest dealer now is 2 hours away so would appreciate if you could keep us informed if you manage to get the DES rectified. Over on Ducati.ms there are a number of cases but were all rectified by a different solution

Anyone else had this and found a solution?

Thanks
I don't wish to alarm you but here's my story regarding the DES Preload error.
Last september my 1200s showed this error.
Since then my dealer has changed the rear shock ecu twice,the rear shock twice,
put new clocks on and finally fitted a complete new wiring loom.
The bike finally came back to me 3 weeks ago and touch wood ,so far so good.
Still the best bike I've ever had,but not without a warranty.
Incidentally my dealer,Ducati Leeds have been brilliant throughout
with what seemed to be little or no help from Ducati UK.
They even supplied and fitted a new back tyre F.O.C because of the hassle I'd had.
Good luck.
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