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Old 01-09-2012, 08:18 AM   #766
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tuffstuff - Flattop is great fun with different challenges. The "easier" ride is up Simmons Gap from 810 to a right staying on Simmons Gap and up to Shiffletts on the right. That section takes you up past the entrance to Flattop Mtn (private subdivision) and over eventually all the way down to Bacon Hollow in Greene. Just about 1/4 mile below the Flattop entrance there's an intx with Wyatt to the right. That's very tight and narrow (I've seen grass 18" tall in the center of it in summer but,yes, it's a state road) and connects over to Brokenback. Brokenback also goes from Simmons at the small Mennonite church over to Bacon Hollow but most find it a bit rougher and more challenging. They're all State roads but depending on weather (steep/big washouts occasionally) they can give you a workout. If you ride Brokenback from Simmons to Bacon Hollow, be careful at the Bacon Hollow intx. It's a fairly steep braking zone with lots of loose sediment that gets washed down - always there and always a risk of sliding out into Bacon Hollow rd. Maybe I should just slow down...
AFAIK most anything between 20/231 is private back near the mountains. Only 600 and 640 go over. The big paved gov't road on 640 is a NORAD Air defense station buried in the mountain - no it doesn't say that anywhere, don't go up there.

Did that ride over brokeback on my old connie, definatly had a few pucker moments with that big beast getting loose. Need to head back with the DR and have some fun.
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Old 01-09-2012, 09:37 AM   #767
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I rode my old Connie over the Flattop side once - yeah, it was a handful. Rode my K75RT over it once too. I'm a slow learner.
Ask Jack90210 about the time we rode it in the snow (I was on my first weeStrom with deathwings), dug Steverino's xm radio out of a drift after he had a little off, etc.
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Old 01-09-2012, 12:59 PM   #768
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I rode my old Connie over the Flattop side once - yeah, it was a handful. Rode my K75RT over it once too. I'm a slow learner.
Ask Jack90210 about the time we rode it in the snow (I was on my first weeStrom with deathwings), dug Steverino's xm radio out of a drift after he had a little off, etc.
2005. (Is that the time we got "held up" in Bacon Hollow?) That was the second time, I think, that I had ever been on gravel. After that ride I was hooked! Look, there's Poonie in the pic below ...



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Old 01-09-2012, 06:38 PM   #769
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Hah! Great that you still have those pix! Good pic of Poonie - Anton, SST and Grimmboy are in there too.
Yeah, that was the day we were "held up". Jack90210 and I were trapped in a dead-end by a couple of drunk rednecks claiming that we had run over their dog the week before. Not true - however I damn near DID run over it on the way out. As I recall it all happened because we were following Steverino's GPS up dead ends because it showed that we could get through.
That was quite a ride.
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Old 01-09-2012, 06:56 PM   #770
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Jack90210 and I were trapped in a dead-end by a couple of drunk rednecks claiming that we had run over their dog the week before.
Silly rednecks. Don't they know they are supposed to put signs up warning people like these guys did?

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Old 01-10-2012, 04:46 AM   #771
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2005. (Is that the time we got "held up" in Bacon Hollow?) That was the second time, I think, that I had ever been on gravel. After that ride I was hooked! Look, there's Poonie in the pic below ...



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Old 01-10-2012, 03:02 PM   #772
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Hey, I'm officially selling the KLX if anyone is interested. (sig line linky)

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Old 01-10-2012, 03:24 PM   #773
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Mapping Question

Does anyone here in central VA have a maping source that shows which roads are gravel? Not finding it on any of my Garmin software or google earth. I think the old paper county maps used to, but I'm not sure if VDOT still sells those.
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Old 01-10-2012, 03:51 PM   #774
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Does anyone here in central VA have a maping source that shows which roads are gravel? Not finding it on any of my Garmin software or google earth. I think the old paper county maps used to, but I'm not sure if VDOT still sells those.
i've been trying to find the same thing! so far just keeping track of what i learn from you all and what we find out riding but finding an official map would be so much better!
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Old 01-10-2012, 03:53 PM   #775
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ah and it's such a nice bike!!! i will tell friends about it.
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Old 01-10-2012, 04:13 PM   #776
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Does anyone here in central VA have a maping source that shows which roads are gravel? Not finding it on any of my Garmin software or google earth. I think the old paper county maps used to, but I'm not sure if VDOT still sells those.
Pretty sure VDOT still gives those away for free. Downstairs at the County offices in Albemarle, and at the visitor's center in Nelson.

I'll be near the Alb Co Offices tomorrow and I'll check. But I'm pretty sure you can order them directly from VDOT.

You can order them county by county directly from VDOT

http://www.virginiadot.org/travel/maps-default.asp


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ah and it's such a nice bike!!! i will tell friends about it.
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Does anyone here in central VA have a maping source that shows which roads are gravel? Not finding it on any of my Garmin software or google earth. I think the old paper county maps used to, but I'm not sure if VDOT still sells those.
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i've been trying to find the same thing! so far just keeping track of what i learn from you all and what we find out riding but finding an official map would be so much better!
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Found here....

http://www.virginiadot.org/travel/maps-default.asp

Unfortunately you can't view them online. The bound copies are nice(I've seen one years ago) for home use and at 50 cents a copy for the paper ones...that's a bargan! I used to have a bunch of those old county maps.

Here is their City map of Charlottesville...

EDIT: Just an FYI, there are 95 counties in Va.
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Old 01-10-2012, 04:21 PM   #778
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Old 01-10-2012, 06:36 PM   #779
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I still have a number of those VDOT maps of the counties near here. They used to sell them in the library of the Highway Research Council on Observatory Hill but it's been quite a while since I bought any there. They were never great about updating them and VDOT's misdirected "Pave in Place" program has thrown asphalt down on perfectly good gravel at a fairly quick pace in some spots. Be aware that quite a few shown as dirt aren't any longer.
They're still a good resource, about the only good clue about what might be gravel that I know of and have mileages on every section.
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Pretty sure VDOT still gives those away for free. Downstairs at the County offices in Albemarle, and at the visitor's center in Nelson.

I'll be near the Alb Co Offices tomorrow and I'll check. But I'm pretty sure you can order them directly from VDOT.

You can order them county by county directly from VDOT

http://www.virginiadot.org/travel/maps-default.asp




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