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Old 06-03-2013, 02:25 PM   #14911
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Aftermarket Turn signals?

Sweet video, thanks for posting. Bummer about the brake!



And now, adventures in electrical:



I’m trying to replace the rear turn-signals and might find some LED ones for the front. This is what I bought for the rear:

http://www.oemcycle.com/Item/product...m_campaign=NXT

And I have the original turn signal bulbs plugged in for the front.

It will flash when I have the original rear turn signals plugged in but the new bulbs are not enough draw to make the flasher module pulse and just stayed on. I found this online:

http://www.superbrightleds.com/blog/...Hyperflashing))

And I might try something like this but I’m not sure which to try and you would think you could find one in town and not have to wait a week for one to arrive:

http://www.superbrightleds.com/cat/f...FaYWMgod43gAng

Autozone said they have tried in the past but don’t have a source. But when I called Sun Honda, they said that what most of the guys do instead when they switch out to LED turn signals on their crotch rockets is just put in a resistor on all the positive wires to each low-draw or LED bulb. He said you just need to go down to Radio Shack and get an in-line resistor. But, of course, the guys at Radio Shack didn't know their butt from a hole in the ground and were no help. But there were several choices of resistors with different ohms and such.

Has anyone else dealt with this and know what I should buy? Royce, this might be right up your alley? Thanks!
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Old 06-03-2013, 05:24 PM   #14912
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I've been hotwiring my '89 TA for the last few weeks since my bike had a mysterious problem where the electric starter only made a solid click and wouldnt turn the engine. I looked at the starter solenoid and saw one of the nuts and screws to be very copper colored, upon further investigation I found the nut(see pic) to be rusty. I replaced said nut and she started right up

So does this mean I should plan on buying a new starter solenoid?


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Old 06-03-2013, 06:36 PM   #14913
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Sweet video, thanks for posting. Bummer about the brake!



And now, adventures in electrical:



I’m trying to replace the rear turn-signals and might find some LED ones for the front. This is what I bought for the rear:

http://www.oemcycle.com/Item/product...m_campaign=NXT

And I have the original turn signal bulbs plugged in for the front.

It will flash when I have the original rear turn signals plugged in but the new bulbs are not enough draw to make the flasher module pulse and just stayed on. I found this online:

http://www.superbrightleds.com/blog/...Hyperflashing))

And I might try something like this but I’m not sure which to try and you would think you could find one in town and not have to wait a week for one to arrive:

http://www.superbrightleds.com/cat/f...FaYWMgod43gAng

Autozone said they have tried in the past but don’t have a source. But when I called Sun Honda, they said that what most of the guys do instead when they switch out to LED turn signals on their crotch rockets is just put in a resistor on all the positive wires to each low-draw or LED bulb. He said you just need to go down to Radio Shack and get an in-line resistor. But, of course, the guys at Radio Shack didn't know their butt from a hole in the ground and were no help. But there were several choices of resistors with different ohms and such.

Has anyone else dealt with this and know what I should buy? Royce, this might be right up your alley? Thanks!
I believe what you need is an electronic flasher. The guys who put LED turn signals on their old Hondas have the same problem. In their case it's because the LEDs don't draw enough current to operate the old style flasher. They just buy an electronic one instead and that seems to work.
Edit: Wow I see I missed a whole paragraph in your post in which you discovered the same thing. It sure seems like I've seen a simple square flasher relay hanging next to the cylindrical flasher relay at the auto parts store near the fuses. Maybe try another parts store?

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Old 06-03-2013, 07:01 PM   #14914
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Sweet video, thanks for posting. Bummer about the brake!



And now, adventures in electrical:



I’m trying to replace the rear turn-signals and might find some LED ones for the front. This is what I bought for the rear:

http://www.oemcycle.com/Item/product...m_campaign=NXT

And I have the original turn signal bulbs plugged in for the front.

It will flash when I have the original rear turn signals plugged in but the new bulbs are not enough draw to make the flasher module pulse and just stayed on. I found this online:

http://www.superbrightleds.com/blog/...Hyperflashing))

And I might try something like this but I’m not sure which to try and you would think you could find one in town and not have to wait a week for one to arrive:

http://www.superbrightleds.com/cat/f...FaYWMgod43gAng

Autozone said they have tried in the past but don’t have a source. But when I called Sun Honda, they said that what most of the guys do instead when they switch out to LED turn signals on their crotch rockets is just put in a resistor on all the positive wires to each low-draw or LED bulb. He said you just need to go down to Radio Shack and get an in-line resistor. But, of course, the guys at Radio Shack didn't know their butt from a hole in the ground and were no help. But there were several choices of resistors with different ohms and such.

Has anyone else dealt with this and know what I should buy? Royce, this might be right up your alley? Thanks!
Yep, already been through this. I used this flasher (http://www.superbrightleds.com/morei...c-flasher/193/) Mounted above horn relay.



Also used this brake light flasher. (http://www.superbrightleds.com/morei...be-module/195/) But you have to have an LED tail/brake light bulb (or Led tail light ). These are at least as bright as oem. (http://www.superbrightleds.com/morei...ycle-bulb/170/) I've been hit twice by persons talking on cell phones. Figured it might help. Wired my turn signals to function as running lights (http://roadstarclinic.com/content/view/24/103/) with 2 NC relays. Set up like this the signals are on all the time and flash "OFF" instead of on.

2 NC relays hanging loose and mounted. Mines got Africa Twin insturments, but you get the idea.

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Old 06-03-2013, 07:07 PM   #14915
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I've been hotwiring my '89 TA for the last few weeks since my bike had a mysterious problem where the electric starter only made a solid click and wouldnt turn the engine. I looked at the starter solenoid and saw one of the nuts and screws to be very copper colored, upon further investigation I found the nut(see pic) to be rusty. I replaced said nut and she started right up

So does this mean I should plan on buying a new starter solenoid?

Sounds like you just had a bad connection. If it starts, don't think I'd look for any thing else.
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Old 06-03-2013, 11:14 PM   #14916
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Wow, my head is spinning looking at all that, nice work! I'm just trying to get it wired up so both headlights go on at the same time on high beam and the turn signals flash, and figure out where to place it, and mount it and ....and....and....it might be done one day....but,





After a little trial and error, this resistor will work too for the small bulbs, not sure about LED yet.

 photo P1010035_zps690d5a85.jpg

But if you have to solder them into each positive wire for all 4 bulbs I'm not sure it is the simple option. Radio Shack should have them but this one was setting in dad's garage for a long time.
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Old 06-04-2013, 04:11 AM   #14917
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Raabe, did you find that the headers etc made a worthwhile difference to the bikes performance?

I have an Arrow can fitted to the oem headers, and have been wondering if it was worth the time and money fitting aftermarket headers to the TA?


I cant say anything regarding power increase/decrease since i have not made any real dyno tests yet.

From just the feeling i cant tell any relevant difference. I only drove the "old" setup for about 3000km and i never drove any other bike before so i really cant say if its better or worse than before.
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Old 06-04-2013, 05:24 AM   #14918
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Wow, my head is spinning looking at all that, nice work! I'm just trying to get it wired up so both headlights go on at the same time on high beam and the turn signals flash, and figure out where to place it, and mount it and ....and....and....it might be done one day....but,





After a little trial and error, this resistor will work too for the small bulbs, not sure about LED yet.



But if you have to solder them into each positive wire for all 4 bulbs I'm not sure it is the simple option. Radio Shack should have them but this one was setting in dad's garage for a long time.
I wired my headlights through 2 relays, one for high and one for low. Maybe over kill, but that way you've got at least one beam if something goes south with the other one and the current doesn't go through the contacts in the headlight switch.

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Old 06-04-2013, 10:18 AM   #14919
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I wired my headlights through 2 relays, one for high and one for low. Maybe over kill, but that way you've got at least one beam if something goes south with the other one and the current doesn't go through the contacts in the headlight switch.

That is probably the better way to do it, I was going to use a diode instead of a second relay but I think I will get another relay and do it that way so I can handle bigger lights down the road and not worry about it. I'm putting an inline fuse in there too.

Thank you thank you!
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Old 06-04-2013, 02:46 PM   #14920
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That is probably the better way to do it, I was going to use a diode instead of a second relay but I think I will get another relay and do it that way so I can handle bigger lights down the road and not worry about it. I'm putting an inline fuse in there too.

Thank you thank you!
I used these. You have to cut and splice some of the wires, but it makes it pretty easy. http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-2-12V-30...item334f8cae5b
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Old 06-06-2013, 06:37 AM   #14921
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There is a pair of CDIs on ebay off of a bike that "was totaled in a wicked accident" that I am going to bid on. If anyone else is going to bid we should talk, so as to not be running up the price on each other. At least one has suffered some trama so these should be good candidates for my hard wireing a 6 wire cable directly to the PCB experiment.
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Old 06-06-2013, 06:46 AM   #14922
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I cant say anything regarding power increase/decrease since i have not made any real dyno tests yet.

From just the feeling i cant tell any relevant difference. I only drove the "old" setup for about 3000km and i never drove any other bike before so i really cant say if its better or worse than before.
Thanks for that.
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Old 06-06-2013, 07:37 AM   #14923
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Thanks for that.
No problem. But what they certanly DO change is that they are lighter than stock, they have a slightly greater diameter so theres more airflow (wich CAN lead to increased power IF i manage to do some dyno runs AND adjust the carbonation correctly) and they dont rust!

I wanted those because of the looks and the fact that they dont rust.
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Old 06-06-2013, 03:55 PM   #14924
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I did the same on mine. But I installed a dedicated and higher guage wire from the battery, to two 30A relays. Used the one coming from the switch to trigger. I recommend to either put a switch on this trigger wire if you are considering LED running lights. I have a diagram if you wish. Also I made a TA to AT pin conversion on the clocks...need to look around for it...:-/

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That is probably the better way to do it, I was going to use a diode instead of a second relay but I think I will get another relay and do it that way so I can handle bigger lights down the road and not worry about it. I'm putting an inline fuse in there too.

Thank you thank you!
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Old 06-09-2013, 01:31 AM   #14925
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