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Old 06-06-2011, 08:02 AM   #226
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At least with Metzeler Karoo rear I had to stand on the side peg (I'm 220lbs) and "hang" on the bike to get the sidestand trick to work in the garage. Bike needed to be about 15 degrees leaned, and it was much more force than I expected, especially after watching a couple of you tube videos where the sidestand popped the bead like nothing.

I couldn't imagine having to do the sidestand dance on the side of a trail... I also tried the "2x4 method" and other tricks over the course of 2 hours, so needless to say a tool of some sort isn't looking all that bad.

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Thanks for the center stand tip, I'm happy to not have to carry another tool.
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Old 06-06-2011, 09:27 AM   #227
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FYI... if you are prepping for a long trip you may want to upgrade to the 10mm Allen key drain plug. It is much less likely to strip in the field. The 24mm plug is weak... from experience!
Also, the monster torx for the rear lower shock bolt will fit in the drain plug fairly securely.
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Old 06-06-2011, 09:53 AM   #228
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Probably going to get a Motion-Pro bead popper:
http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/...ry/tire_wheel/

$20 well spent and not hard. Been trailside with the sidestand. It works but is a PITA.

Also considering the rim shields. Can make something similar out of an old plastic bottle (oil jug or shampoo). For $11.50 for something that works and saves the scratches & cussing. LOL!
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Old 06-06-2011, 01:27 PM   #229
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Probably going to get a Motion-Pro bead popper:
http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/...ry/tire_wheel/

$20 well spent and not hard. Been trailside with the sidestand. It works but is a PITA.
I've been breaking the bead like this the last years and I think it works great. The twist makes You much stronger compared to just using the tire irons. I usually use a rug between the spanner and the rim to avoid scratches.
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Old 06-06-2011, 02:14 PM   #230
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Probably going to get a Motion-Pro bead popper:
http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/...ry/tire_wheel/

$20 well spent and not hard. Been trailside with the sidestand. It works but is a PITA.

Also considering the rim shields. Can make something similar out of an old plastic bottle (oil jug or shampoo). For $11.50 for something that works and saves the scratches & cussing. LOL!

I have the bead popper. It works. I have the rim protectors. They work but are somewhat cumbersome and none too compact. Also every use shaves off bits of blue plastic. Guess that is better than bits of rim.
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Old 06-06-2011, 02:55 PM   #231
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I have the Motion Pro (blue) version of that bead popper and it works great. I've never found an easier way to break the bead on a tire. Even a tire with stiff sidewalls like the Heidenau K60 pops off like butter. I tried the sidestand method, but you've got to be some sort of masochist to put yourself through that. Get the bead popper! Seriously. It's cheap and takes up next to no space in your tool kit. Works every time.

How exactly do you use the bead popper to get the heavy K60s off? I have one and I tried it... didn't work. It worked fine on the front tire for me... Maybe I don't have the right technique... ?
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Old 06-06-2011, 03:06 PM   #232
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I'm with Ender on that one. Didn't work for me either, those bad boys are friggin on there. Depending on how stiff the tire sidewall is, the blue rim protectors will get cut through as well. I switched to a small swatch of leather and that has been effective.
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Old 06-06-2011, 03:25 PM   #233
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How exactly do you use the bead popper to get the heavy K60s off? I have one and I tried it... didn't work. It worked fine on the front tire for me... Maybe I don't have the right technique... ?
In the garage I've whacked it with a 3 lb. mallet, pops the bead nicely. But out on the trail (which I haven't done) I imagine any heavy, blunt object would do. I've just had Woody seal my rear tire, so I hope I'll never have to pop the bead on anything but the front from now on. Knock wood.
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Old 06-06-2011, 07:31 PM   #234
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Well, I can say for sure it's much less effective when struck with a rock or hunk of firewood (I'll stop there so I don't embarrass myself further)! And wear a glove when trying that- DAMHIK.
Eventually the guys in the next campsite will stop laughing long enough to bring over a hatchet to get it done.
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Old 06-07-2011, 06:34 AM   #235
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I've been breaking the bead like this the last years and I think it works great. The twist makes You much stronger compared to just using the tire irons. I usually use a rug between the spanner and the rim to avoid scratches.
that is a great alt to breaking bead! I cut up milk jugs to keep the scratches to a min. I have also started carrying A 3"x3" piece of thin tarp.. It came in handy last saturday.

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Old 06-07-2011, 06:48 AM   #236
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Nice to see You struggeling with a tire change out in the woods At least You made it!

If You need to replace the tube it's a lot easier if You remove the tire completely, mount the tube inside the tyre, inflate it a bit and then fit the air outlet (is it called that?) in the rim and mount the tire. That saves You a lot of time and cursing
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Old 06-07-2011, 07:02 AM   #237
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Old 06-07-2011, 07:06 AM   #238
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We struggled with the tube for about a min. we will try it with the tire off next time. None of it was a struggle really.. So far we have had fun with most of our hiccups on the trail. I probably jinxed us now. Some carry a stem puller . It takes a second to pull it.

We tend to feed off of each other's strife in these situations. Video helps
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Old 07-07-2011, 01:48 PM   #239
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When I have some time I am going to go through and update the "Recommended Toolkit" from this list...

one thing I've been looking at carrying is a set few of these:

http://www.gearwrench.com/catalog/wr....jsp?part=9230

Though mislabeled on the site they are a socket adapter for a grearwrench. Basically it converts any brand ratcheting box wrench (gearwrench, craftsman, etc.) into a ratcheting socket handle.

Sort of thinking this will reduce the size and weight of the toolkit I carry. Kit cost $10 at sears and includes all three. Figure that along with a few adapters from 1/4 to 3/8 and reverse and I have a nice small size kit that will work in most any situation.

Any thoughts?

Also I need a good recommendation on a tool roll. Just added a pelican case 1400 as a rear trunk box and the tool bag I use is a bit too big. A good tool roll will work perfect.
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Old 07-07-2011, 01:52 PM   #240
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Adapters

I have those and they work but they sure don't feel too solid. It is nice that they weigh nothing and store right in the wrench.

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When I have some time I am going to go through and update the "Recommended Toolkit" from this list...

one thing I've been looking at carrying is a set few of these:

http://www.gearwrench.com/catalog/wr....jsp?part=9230

Though mislabeled on the site they are a socket adapter for a grearwrench. Basically it converts any brand ratcheting box wrench (gearwrench, craftsman, etc.) into a ratcheting socket handle.

Sort of thinking this will reduce the size and weight of the toolkit I carry. Kit cost $10 at sears and includes all three. Figure that along with a few adapters from 1/4 to 3/8 and reverse and I have a nice small size kit that will work in most any situation.

Any thoughts?

Also I need a good recommendation on a tool roll. Just added a pelican case 1400 as a rear trunk box and the tool bag I use is a bit too big. A good tool roll will work perfect.
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