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Old 10-08-2008, 07:15 PM   #16
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In fact, if I was a cash-strapped gov. entity like CA, I'd turn the CHP loose with their ticketbooks specifically targeting bikes with obviously modified emmisions control systems (this includes exhaust). Think of the money that would generate.

Ever ride through Cali? I do.
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Old 10-08-2008, 08:16 PM   #17
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In fact, if I was a cash-strapped gov. entity like CA, I'd turn the CHP loose with their ticketbooks specifically targeting bikes with obviously modified emmisions control systems (this includes exhaust). Think of the money that would generate.

Ever ride through Cali? I do.
Yeah I grew up in the Palm Springs area riding HWY 74 over to San Diego and the many desert byways near Yucca Valley and Joshua Tree. I just noticed your sig says Nevada, are you a Lost Wages resident as well?

Unless I'm crazy I remember hearing bikes in Nevada don't even require a charcoal canister. Manufacturers only install them to become 50-state legal making the bike registerable in the republic's of Kalifornia and New Yalk.
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Old 10-08-2008, 09:16 PM   #18
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Honestly Jet, I'm saying this with all due respect but I have bought and sold two dozen bikes in Ca. and never once has the DMV guy behind the counter come outside to see if my bike had a charcoal canister. Even in Nevada where I now live and vehicles are subject to inspection, bikes are exempt.

Again I'm saying this with respect, but I'm looking for answers on actually removing the canister, not the ethical ramifications of doing so.

Ride on my friend.
California only requires the charcoal canister on bikes with less than 7500 miles on them. More than that they don't care.
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Old 10-08-2008, 09:32 PM   #19
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Not Vegas. Reno, but looking at a forced move toward the Bay soon, as in before I can manage to put 7500 miles on a bike. Maybe.
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Old 10-09-2008, 03:34 AM   #20
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California only requires the charcoal canister on bikes with less than 7500 miles on them. More than that they don't care.
Really!?!?!

What's the logic behind that choice piece of rule-making?
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Old 10-09-2008, 06:30 AM   #21
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Really!?!?!

What's the logic behind that choice piece of rule-making?
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You're looking for a law (or rule) to make sense?

In any case, canisters come off my bikes, for two reasons.

1. Weight. Why have more of it on the bike than necessary.
2. Aesthetics. Maybe not an issue if it's under a fairing, but on some bikes like the Ducati Hypermotard, or BMW XChallenge, it's right out there where eyes fall on it.
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Old 10-09-2008, 07:10 AM   #22
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California only requires the charcoal canister on bikes with less than 7500 miles on them. More than that they don't care.
Actually, that's not quite accurate. The State requires it to be there at all times. You are not LEGALLY allowed to modified anything emissions related, and that includes the exhaust. However, they are almost never inspected. Look at how many bikes have aftermarket exhausts...........

The 7500 miles comes into play if you are bringing an out of state bike into Commiefornia and it needs to pass a CHP inspection to get a new in-state registration.

There has been talk/rumors for years that Commiefornia will start the bi-annual smog inspections of motorcycles, but most fortunately it has gotten anywhere yet.
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Old 10-09-2008, 08:52 AM   #23
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So how does CARB certifications come into play???

Aren't there a lot of aftermarket companies that seek CARB certification for aftermarket parts such as exhaust and intake systems?
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Old 10-20-2008, 08:35 PM   #24
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I don' think CARB certifications on after-market products are dependent on the charcoal canister.

Has anyone actually removed their canister yet?
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Old 10-21-2008, 05:21 AM   #25
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You mean other than myself???
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Old 10-21-2008, 08:47 AM   #26
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You mean other than myself???
Yeah someone with a camera.

I sort of figured by now someone would have done a write-up with pics but maybe I'll just do it. Would you be willing to help a brotha out if I ran into any problems? I've removed the canisters on all my bikes but I've been hesitant to rip this one out mostly because I am unfamiliar with the workings of this bike.
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Old 10-21-2008, 08:52 AM   #27
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Yeah someone with a camera.

I sort of figured by now someone would have done a write-up with pics but maybe I'll just do it. Would you be willing to help a brotha out if I ran into any problems? I've removed the canisters on all my bikes but I've been hesitant to rip this one out mostly because I am unfamiliar with the workings of this bike.
I'd be happy to help you out.

I'll send you a PM with my phone number as I just don't have the time to ride to Vegas to help you out personally.

If you want to ride here...you're more than welcome.
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Old 10-21-2008, 08:17 PM   #28
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I used to be gung ho about all modifications for the slightest advantage... but now, it's more worth my time to go ride than take off a carbon can that weighs less than my lunch.

Especially when the only thing it does (performance wise) is handle gasoline fumes. There's no performance advantage to removing it, but i have seen lots of running issue headaches with removing them.
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Old 10-21-2008, 09:15 PM   #29
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Really!?!?!

What's the logic behind that choice piece of rule-making?
CA requires new vehicles (cars and bikes) to be CA emissions certified.

CA law says anything with less than 7500 miles is "new".
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Old 10-22-2008, 03:19 AM   #30
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CA requires new vehicles (cars and bikes) to be CA emissions certified.

CA law says anything with less than 7500 miles is "new".
Interesting.

Thank you for the 411.
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