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Old 11-21-2008, 06:31 PM   #31
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Is it possible to install the Scottoiler using a "T" fitting in the hose instead of removing the canister altogether?

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Old 11-22-2008, 04:54 AM   #32
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Is it possible to install the Scottoiler using a "T" fitting in the hose instead of removing the canister altogether?

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I think you will end up with "fitment" issues as well and defeating the vacuum the ScottOiler requires to operate normally. In addition, as the fuel vents to the charcoal canister, fuel vapors could end up coming into contact possibly come into contact with the oil, degrading the properties of the lubricant.
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Old 01-18-2009, 06:55 AM   #33
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Scottoiler follow up q

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I think you will end up with "fitment" issues as well and defeating the vacuum the ScottOiler requires to operate normally. In addition, as the fuel vents to the charcoal canister, fuel vapors could end up coming into contact possibly come into contact with the oil, degrading the properties of the lubricant.
Did you guys install the scottoiler HCR on the 8gs? if so where did you put it? thanks
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Old 01-18-2009, 07:25 AM   #34
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Step by step on charcoal canister removal

Here ya go. Pic's and all. Canister removal
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Old 01-18-2009, 08:11 AM   #35
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Here's why:

If you tip over, and your cannister fills with gas, your bike won't run.
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Old 01-18-2009, 08:19 AM   #36
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Noticed the canister on another 800 on my trip thru the States. Actually had to ask what it was. Thought it was a little cheezy the way BMW had just zapped strapped it to the frame. Woulda been one of the first things I removed. Actually, it would have been the only thing. The rest of the bike is perfect.
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Old 01-19-2009, 10:04 AM   #37
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In fact, if I was a cash-strapped gov. entity like CA, I'd turn the CHP loose with their ticketbooks specifically targeting bikes with obviously modified emmisions control systems (this includes exhaust). Think of the money that would generate.

Ever ride through Cali? I do.
They already do. CHP sets up road blocks on popular motorcycle roads and pulls over bikes and checks for illegal after market parts such as exhaust and turn signals. Was riding on hwy 33 a couple of months ago and passed one, they only waved over the guy riding a sport bike that was with us. They started to harass him until they found out he was a LEO too.
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Old 01-19-2009, 11:30 AM   #38
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They already do. CHP sets up road blocks on popular motorcycle roads and pulls over bikes and checks for illegal after market parts such as exhaust and turn signals.
Somewhat related, also note that if your dirt bike came originally equipped with a charcoal canister and you removed it, you're subject to a $600 or $700 fine.

And yes, they check. At least at Hollister SRVA. The kids are scrambling to fix the err of their ways.
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Old 01-19-2009, 12:54 PM   #39
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Here ya go. Pic's and all. Canister removal
Wow nice write-up. We were wondering how we would get the canister out once it was detached. Guess we know now.
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Old 07-29-2009, 07:35 PM   #40
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Now here's another reason to remove it: The rain stalling issues that some folks are having seems likely to be related to the charcoal canister filling with water. It's possible that this happens through rain entering "at the top" from the airbox after being ingested through the fresh air intakes, but it's also possible to suck a surprising amount of water through te vent tube. As routed by BMW, that vent hangs right in the spray from the wheels. Check out the video on post 213 here: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...420546&page=15

I personally have not had stalling problems yet, but I have seen an amazing amount of water drain from the vent hose for many hours after even short rides in heavy rain. Certainly at this point I am tempted to remove the canister, but there is another way to at least prevent water being sucked up the vent tube: Add a "T" in the tube and run an open piece of hose up high on the bike, under the seat for instance. Leave the original hanging down so any fluid can be ejected. This way there will never be a vacuum at the bottom end of the vent tube.
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Old 11-23-2009, 12:19 AM   #41
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I had the stalling issue affect me 4 times on my most recent trip. What a terrible feeling to be stranded in the middle of nowhere by your steed. I even made a map: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...6723b18fc2&z=5

Great suggestion! I'm gonna do this over t-day holiday. Thanks!

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I personally have not had stalling problems yet, but I have seen an amazing amount of water drain from the vent hose for many hours after even short rides in heavy rain. Certainly at this point I am tempted to remove the canister, but there is another way to at least prevent water being sucked up the vent tube: Add a "T" in the tube and run an open piece of hose up high on the bike, under the seat for instance. Leave the original hanging down so any fluid can be ejected. This way there will never be a vacuum at the bottom end of the vent tube.
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Old 11-23-2009, 02:25 PM   #42
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I had the stalling issue in heavy rain and after fording deep water before removing the canister. The stalling has not reappeared since removal.
I'd sure hope the police have more important things to do than inspect for motorcycle charcoal canisters. But I'd rig up a dummy canister before I'd go back to stalling.
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Old 11-23-2009, 03:22 PM   #43
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We're beating a dead horse with this stalling/charcoal canister nonsense here boys. It's been proven over and over that the cause is not the canister itself, rather the routing of the canister drain hose. Simply re-route the drain hose somewhere else where it won't pick up water and you're good to go. I guarantee it! No need to completely remove the canister unless you need to make room for a Scott Oiler or a rear shock remote reservoir or something. Of course removing the whole charcoal canister system will eliminate the issue, but due to the fact that the fix is as simple as re-routing the canister drain hose, there's no need to completely remove the system. As a plus you won't have to worry about getting a fine, which is a serious reality, unless you live in the woods.

And I know all the non-environmentals out there will chime in here but the fact is that the thing does some good for the environment. It's effen 50 degrees in Minnesota in November for eff's sake!
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Old 11-23-2009, 04:19 PM   #44
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Lol I just want to remove the charcoal canister to piss off the californians hehe

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Old 11-23-2009, 04:51 PM   #45
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Hey now, Californians are the nicest people I've ever met!
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