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Old 04-14-2004, 05:22 PM   #1
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Kings 966 tires all over the mountain

I just did this ride yesterday. It was my first real off-road ride on the new Kings 966 DS tires.

Long story short - avoid them. They chunk.

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Old 04-14-2004, 05:45 PM   #2
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Long story short - avoid them. They chunk.
Ya shoulda done a search here on Kings...Most of us who have tried um...Hate um

Cut yur losses and get them off now.

I have huge scratches on both sides of my 640 Adv tank from low sides in dirt with the Kings. The front just just washes out in corners. I have had my MT21's for mucho more dirt miles with no low sides.
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Old 04-14-2004, 09:18 PM   #3
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Ya shoulda done a search here on Kings...Most of us who have tried um...Hate um

Cut yur losses and get them off now.

I have huge scratches on both sides of my 640 Adv tank from low sides in dirt with the Kings. The front just just washes out in corners. I have had my MT21's for mucho more dirt miles with no low sides.
How do the MT21's compare to the 606's on the 640 adventure?
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Old 04-15-2004, 08:01 AM   #4
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Hate to say I told you so... but, I told you so.
I hated mine. that pic looks just like mine did. whole knobs come flying off some even some had cracks that looked like they would have made it to cord.
Unsafe at any speed. the Corvair of the tire world.
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Old 04-15-2004, 09:15 AM   #5
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How do the MT21's compare to the 606's on the 640 adventure?
I've not run 606's but I heard they are very good. I have not found them in the 640 Adventure 140 rear size, only 130.
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Old 04-15-2004, 01:08 PM   #6
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M21's are the way. Excellent dirt performance, livable street antics. Even when its wet (the road that is) they stick. How much asphalt you roll over and how long they last isn't an issue. I have them on because they work everywhere and seem to hold up well. Off road they won't let you down, good in mud, hardpack and grass (not the smokin type). I rockgardens they won't fly apart and seem to have good sidewall protection. Lets face it, ON the KTM 640 R you've got a heavy bike underneath (full tank HA!) The performance area can only get so good, not like riding a 200 EXC, but better than a BMW 1100.
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Old 04-15-2004, 07:32 PM   #7
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Jon I ran both Mt21 and D606 on my Lc4 you won;t like the noise the D606's make on the pavement they are really loud I run the MT 21 on my xr400 and a cheapy Kenda on the rear If I had your bike I would use the Mt 21 or like I have on the 95 the TKC I'm learning to appreciate them even though they don't last long for me but no tire does under all my weight You'll like having a front tire that sticks try the MT 21
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Old 04-15-2004, 10:25 PM   #8
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Jon I ran both Mt21 and D606 on my Lc4 you won;t like the noise the D606's make on the pavement they are really loud I run the MT 21 on my xr400 and a cheapy Kenda on the rear If I had your bike I would use the Mt 21 or like I have on the 95 the TKC I'm learning to appreciate them even though they don't last long for me but no tire does under all my weight You'll like having a front tire that sticks try the MT 21
I called z-racing earlier today - as soon as the insurance company comes out & inspects my bike, I'm going to spoon on a set of the MT-21s!

They just sold their last set ... to Mr. Slotard himself, Bob!
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Old 04-16-2004, 10:37 PM   #9
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I called z-racing earlier today - as soon as the insurance company comes out & inspects my bike, I'm going to spoon on a set of the MT-21s!

They just sold their last set ... to Mr. Slotard himself, Bob!
Jon,

I talked to Tim at Z Racing today and they are going to install TKC 80s on my bike so you can have the set of MT 21s they were holding for me. I have a lot of road miles to log in the near future so the TKCs should last longer on my 950. Plus Tim said the MT 21 in 140/80 x 18 was considerably narrower than the Michelin Desert and TKC 80 in the same sizes and he was worried about the Pirelli having the correct profile on a 4" wide rim. I plan to mount MT 21s when I finally get my narower rims.

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By the way-your insurance guy called me today but I was not able to call him back yet. Will do so Monday a.m.
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Old 04-16-2004, 10:43 PM   #10
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He called me too and is sending me a form to fill out
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[QUOTE=Superslotard]Jon,

. I have a lot of road miles to log in the near future so the TKCs should last longer on my 950. back yet. QUOTE] Bob I have my original tires that have enough tread to get you home then you can put your TKC on once your home
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He called me too and is sending me a form to fill out
wow - this guy gets around quick ... I only talked with him once - good thing is, I didn't have to guess at time of day, speeds, etc... the GPS was running at the time and track logging was on, so I just downloaded the information - I have average, max, and low speed data for my bike on that entire stretch of road. There's a gap in the track from where the unit was turned off when I stopped the bike after the accident - the GPS shows I was going 7.4 MPH through that section!

I just made a CD with all the scene photos, a document to narrate the photos, and screenshots of the GPS map and "track info" dialogue boxes - we'll see what happens. In the meantime, I'm hoping the inspector comes out soon so I can ride again!
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Jon,

. I have a lot of road miles to log in the near future so the TKCs should last longer on my 950. back yet. QUOTE] Bob I have my original tires that have enough tread to get you home then you can put your TKC on once your home
Thanks for the offer Greg but my bike is already in the shop with the TKCs on order and to be installed on Tuesday. I plan to p/u the bike from Z Racing and then ride north and hoping to go to ride Hollister with the Scuderia crew. I really want the knobbies for the Hollister ride.

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Thanks for the offer Greg but my bike is already in the shop with the TKCs on order and to be installed on Tuesday. I plan to p/u the bike from Z Racing and then ride north and hoping to go to ride Hollister with the Scuderia crew. I really want the knobbies for the Hollister ride.

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That makes sense I did not know you are headed to Holister By the way what do you think about MaCall Idaho on the 17th my Brother lives there I'm thinking about riding to this event http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38171 after I spend the weekend at Laguna Seca Maybe I could come via Tahoe and hook up with you
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That makes sense I did not know you are headed to Holister By the way what do you think about MaCall Idaho on the 17th my Brother lives there I'm thinking about riding to this event http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38171 after I spend the weekend at Laguna Seca Maybe I could come via Tahoe and hook up with you
Greg,

That sounds like a great idea! A couple of my friends and I had already planned to be at Laguna Seca and to also attend the the Big Cat ride. I met some guys from McCall, ID at the Jimmy Lewis Class and they said the Big Cat is a blast. I may take another Jimmy Lewis Class there, too.

Let's do it! Riding up from Monterey to Tahoe and then over to Idaho sounds like a good plan. Might have a couple of other guys interested in joining us if that's OK.

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