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Old 10-30-2008, 02:47 AM   #91
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Enduro 3 Sahara

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Front & Rear
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140/80-18 TT 70R


Looks Similar to the Metzeler Enduro 3 Sahara

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Old 02-16-2009, 08:46 PM   #92
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MEFO Super Explorer - Sorry for Dupp thread

So did we find a place to get the MEFO Super Explorer tire in the US? I'd be prepared to try it and post results.

Again...sorry if this is a duplicate thread.

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Old 02-16-2009, 08:53 PM   #93
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Twisted Throttle has the MEFO 99 S.Explorer

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Old 02-16-2009, 11:53 PM   #94
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I'm using the Heidenau K60 rear on a 1200ADV. It's almost as good as a TKC on gravel, but lasts about twice as long. Having seen the K60 front, I'm initially pairing with a TKC front until more data becomes available. In South Africa they're approx 1/2 the price of a TKC (rear) US$110 vs $230.

I get mine from Bikegear, a mail order distributer. Last I heard that KTM sizes were available. Im sure they will ship to the US, but shipping costs will make this prohibitive. If somebody desparately want to try these, its www.bikegear.co.za Order by e-mail from the "contact us" link.
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:29 AM   #95
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I get relatives to bring tires in spare suitcase allotment when they're coming over the pond for a visit - last time they brought me four - 2 pairs of the Heidenau's each. Really quite a good all around tire. Rear lasted 8,000 km
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Old 02-17-2009, 08:45 AM   #96
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Really quite a good all around tire.
More details about on/offroad performance, please!
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Old 05-26-2009, 08:12 AM   #97
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Great thread ~ thanks.
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Old 05-26-2009, 09:13 AM   #98
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Very nice thred, thanks.
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Old 05-26-2009, 09:26 PM   #99
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Not sure about the cryptic responses from the one guy Dlrides...
Anyway it's nice to get get a forum portfolio of tire photos from the Grumpy Old Fart and others...
Opinions are sometimes useful.
Better if backed with a description of the reason the tires perform well, or bad.
I like the Scorps for street commuting use.
Rims: Stock rear, and 1.85" bulletproof front.
These tires are sticky, corner well into the edge of the tread without slippage on pavement while affording mediocre confidence on trails/ dirt.
The rear tire is well worn on center at 6500 miles but the front still has much more life.
I'm due for a change on rear at a minimum.
Thinking about the TK's??

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Old 05-27-2009, 08:46 PM   #100
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Yep, a 140/80 tire molded and designed for a 2.5 rim is going to work really great stretched out on a 4.25 rim. Uh-huh. Unless you want to turn, only problem. Put a SE rear wheel on with a high side profile dirt tire and itll work as designed. ALOT of bad advice here in this thread. MT-21s, Deserts, etc. These dirt tires are made for 2.15 to 2. rims. Just WTF are you thinking? You will have NO corner. These tires will spread out like holy crap on that wide stock rim. 950 rear is made for a low profile rear tire and only 3 I know of will fit properly. Conti TKC-80, Scorps, and ?????????????? Made by Heidenau at the behest of us over at LC8.org Weve been begging them for some time to make this size yet its oddly still not available over here. It will be sold as a K60 Heidenau once it makes our market.

So can someone explain, how to tell if the tire fits a 2.5 rim or a 4. rim? Wouldn't any 140 fit the 4. rims for the SE?
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Old 05-27-2009, 11:33 PM   #101
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If you want to maintain stock tire dimension then you have to be aware of how the profile and sidewall affect the total rim and tire dimension.
A 140/80 means 140 mm in tire tread profile and 80% of that in side wall.
I.E. 112 mm tall at the sidewall x 140 mm across the tread.
You figure out what the tire cross section looks like at 2.5" versus 4.5" of rim width?
Example: 4.5" wide rim
140 mm = 5.5"
112 mm = 4.4"
This has an almost flat appearance with a small crest above the 4.4" sidewall.

If the same tire were used on a 2.5" rim the crest would protrude higher and more round.
In this case, the tire may be more suited for off-road but less than desirable for street use.
But then again, the tread pattern and tread density makes more difference for a usable profile.

If someone wants to correct me,... please do so.
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Old 05-29-2009, 09:23 AM   #102
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More details about on/offroad performance, please!
Very good traction on dry and wet pavement, but, as expected, not as good as stock scorpions and they're noisier as well. However, the traction on gravel and trails off road if dry is really quite amazing. Compared with D908 only falls short if ground is quite soft and in mud they pack up quicker.

Clincher for me is I do a fair mix of highway driving - getting quite a few miles on pavement, but equally lots on gravel and like to take it off road as much as I can. The more agressive tires wear out too quick for me ($$). I would think its fair to say I ride somewhat aggresively (wheelies, lots of sliding/spinning on high speed gravel, etc.) and get good distance out of them. 8,000 km on rear and I can get them at fraction of other tires cost. So, its a good all-rounder for me - just like the bike. Doing a 8000 km trip this year and I'm thinking I can make it on one tire - especially 'cause there's a lot of easy highway miles involved versus my local playing around. To wit, my fuel mileage when playing around near home is 7 to 8 liters/100 km. On longer trips with steady highway I get down to 5 or 6 liters.
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Old 06-02-2009, 01:25 PM   #103
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I'm confused (easily). So we are saying despite all the possibilities, 140/80-18 isn't a great idea especially for road riding as the profile is flattened? So going by this the 908rr is really a no no?
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Old 06-02-2009, 02:39 PM   #104
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I'm confused (easily). So we are saying despite all the possibilities, 140/80-18 isn't a great idea especially for road riding as the profile is flattened? So going by this the 908rr is really a no no?
140 profile makes the bike fall into corners when turning. You get used to it. Other than that it's fine. I commute to work every day with a 908 rear.
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Old 06-02-2009, 08:44 PM   #105
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MEFO Explorer 140/80-18

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140 profile makes the bike fall into corners when turning. You get used to it. Other than that it's fine. I commute to work every day with a 908 rear.

Noticed that, along with dancing a lot on grooved pavement.
I'm trying lower pressure as per one inmate.
I put it at 26 and noticed an increase in noise, it seems like it's tracking a little bit bnetter, but I don't know if it's because I unmounted Gobi bags and tail luggage, which were totally full on my SaddleSore 1000 attempt two weeks ago.
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