Is my NX650 transmission binding? [video inside]

foxgguy2001 · 10-13-2008, 09:23 PM

**previously added to garage, added to thumpers as it is more relevant here...

It's doing this all the time in 2nd and 3rd gear mostly at low RPM's and especially noticeable when engine breaking, but even when accelerating. In the video when it starts binding up I pulled the clutch in. Any ideas anyone? Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated.

bongodave · 10-13-2008, 11:21 PM

Wheel bearings shot? Or is it the tranny that's doing it?

XR650L_Dave · 10-14-2008, 09:09 AM

Divide and conquer.

Pull the chain (or just get it off the sprocket) and see if the binding is in the wheel, or the trans.

Or the chain itself.

Dave

Pablo83 · 10-14-2008, 09:21 AM

I've had something similar happen with a loose chain.

foxgguy2001 · 10-14-2008, 04:00 PM

Here's another one i took after popping the chain off... almost a little over 1/8" movement in here... is that normal?
Also when I put pressure on it, feels like somethings catching....

foxgguy2001 · 10-14-2008, 04:18 PM

Here's another oen without the gear on.

mcma111 · 10-14-2008, 04:30 PM

Wish I had my Super Man glasses on so I could look inside your engine. But they are out for service.

Anyway you look at it it is time to pull the engine apart to get to the root of the problem. You might start pulling the clutch cover off and seeing what the counter shaft is doing on the right side of the engine. We can see what it's doing on the left side. My guess is the right side bearing took a shit thus allowing the shaft to move to the right. I would stop running the engine before something that is floating around in there gets into something that will not like it.

See Big Bang Theory.

But it was time for a rebuild anyway was it not?? 675cc , cam, the works...

foxgguy2001 · 10-14-2008, 05:06 PM

Actually my brother just rebuilt it... here's another, will check the right side bearing....and make sure i stop running it...

mcma111 · 10-14-2008, 05:25 PM

What did he do?? Just the top end or all the way to the bottom??

xDownSetx · 10-14-2008, 08:53 PM

I did a complete tear down, had to replace the shift spindle. Everything was bagged and labeled so there were no left over parts. Don't know what I did wrong but something wasn't done right.

JeffS77 · 10-16-2008, 09:03 PM

Hey did you ever figure out whats up with your bike?? splitting the cases yet?? damn i just got my XL500 out of hibernation and thought we where gonna go ridding. went up to silverado on the OC side of the hills and of course it is still all closed..hmmm maybe we'll get some rain pretty soon.

foxgguy2001 · 10-16-2008, 09:57 PM

crackin the case this weekend...err, my weekend...next wed/thursday.

JeffS77 · 10-20-2008, 06:17 PM

cool man good luck..let me know what happens.. i wont be riding for awhile.. i was racing in ridgecrest on friday night and had a bad highside that destroyed my shoulder basically tore all the legaments that hold my shoulder together. should be in surgery by end of week but looks like a 6-8month recovery

mcma111 · 10-24-2008, 08:46 AM

foxgguy2001 · 01-01-2009, 06:40 PM

Turns out there were 2 spacers left over after the rebuild, after some detective work we located, and after a tear down, reinstalled said spacers....

pictures below. (spacers on each side of the right cog)

only took me 2 months...

10-13-2008, 09:23 PM	#1
foxgguy2001 ^OP Sheputy Deriff Joined: Mar 2008 Location: Riverside, CA Oddometer: 196	Is my NX650 transmission binding? [video inside] **previously added to garage, added to thumpers as it is more relevant here... It's doing this all the time in 2nd and 3rd gear mostly at low RPM's and especially noticeable when engine breaking, but even when accelerating. In the video when it starts binding up I pulled the clutch in. Any ideas anyone? Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated.

10-13-2008, 11:21 PM	#2
bongodave Cite Pwner Joined: Mar 2006 Location: Fabulous Eerie, Indiana! Oddometer: 31,825	Wheel bearings shot? Or is it the tranny that's doing it? __________________ Freedom without regulations that protect the general good is nothing more than anarchy by the rich. -R-1150-RS

10-14-2008, 09:21 AM	#4
Pablo83 Sleep, Wrench, Ride Joined: Aug 2008 Location: Woodland Park, CO Oddometer: 4,520	I've had something similar happen with a loose chain. __________________ Bikes: DR350 \| GR650 Street Tracker \| NX650 Turbo \| Catamount Cycles Events: 2013 Monkey-Butt 500 \| BreckTrek 2013

10-14-2008, 04:30 PM	#7
mcma111 Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2007 Location: San Francisco,Ca. Oddometer: 8,162	It's Tear Down Time Wish I had my Super Man glasses on so I could look inside your engine. But they are out for service. Anyway you look at it it is time to pull the engine apart to get to the root of the problem. You might start pulling the clutch cover off and seeing what the counter shaft is doing on the right side of the engine. We can see what it's doing on the left side. My guess is the right side bearing took a shit thus allowing the shaft to move to the right. I would stop running the engine before something that is floating around in there gets into something that will not like it. See Big Bang Theory. But it was time for a rebuild anyway was it not?? 675cc , cam, the works... __________________ Steve in SF BMW's 58 R26 79 R100s 91 R100gs 87 Harley FXRS-SP ~ 06 KTM 625 SMC ~ 72 Honda CB750/915cc ~ 92 XR600/654cc ~ 95 XR650l/675cc ~ 03 CRF450r ~ 05 CRF450x ~ 02 XR650l/675cc ~ 86 YZ490 ~ 93 YZ80 ~ 93 XR650l Project

10-14-2008, 05:25 PM	#9
mcma111 Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2007 Location: San Francisco,Ca. Oddometer: 8,162	Brother What did he do?? Just the top end or all the way to the bottom?? __________________ Steve in SF BMW's 58 R26 79 R100s 91 R100gs 87 Harley FXRS-SP ~ 06 KTM 625 SMC ~ 72 Honda CB750/915cc ~ 92 XR600/654cc ~ 95 XR650l/675cc ~ 03 CRF450r ~ 05 CRF450x ~ 02 XR650l/675cc ~ 86 YZ490 ~ 93 YZ80 ~ 93 XR650l Project

10-14-2008, 09:09 AM	#3
XR650L_Dave Beastly Adventurer Joined: Apr 2006 Location: Near Cortland NY Oddometer: 3,163	Divide and conquer. Pull the chain (or just get it off the sprocket) and see if the binding is in the wheel, or the trans. Or the chain itself. Dave

10-14-2008, 04:00 PM	#5
foxgguy2001 ^OP Sheputy Deriff Joined: Mar 2008 Location: Riverside, CA Oddometer: 196	Here's another one i took after popping the chain off... almost a little over 1/8" movement in here... is that normal? Also when I put pressure on it, feels like somethings catching....

10-14-2008, 04:18 PM	#6
foxgguy2001 ^OP Sheputy Deriff Joined: Mar 2008 Location: Riverside, CA Oddometer: 196	Here's another oen without the gear on.

10-14-2008, 05:06 PM	#8
foxgguy2001 ^OP Sheputy Deriff Joined: Mar 2008 Location: Riverside, CA Oddometer: 196	Actually my brother just rebuilt it... here's another, will check the right side bearing....and make sure i stop running it...

10-14-2008, 08:53 PM	#10
xDownSetx The Flyin' V-Strom! Joined: Sep 2006 Location: Anaheim, CA Oddometer: 113	I did a complete tear down, had to replace the shift spindle. Everything was bagged and labeled so there were no left over parts. Don't know what I did wrong but something wasn't done right. __________________ 2006 DL1000 Silver 2008 Wee FlatBlack(Totaled) 1983 GS1100ED(sold) 1989 NX650(Out there somewhere) 1987 KLR(rip)

10-16-2008, 09:03 PM	#11
JeffS77 cheap bastard Joined: Apr 2006 Location: Riverside , CA Oddometer: 3,004	Hey did you ever figure out whats up with your bike?? splitting the cases yet?? damn i just got my XL500 out of hibernation and thought we where gonna go ridding. went up to silverado on the OC side of the hills and of course it is still all closed..hmmm maybe we'll get some rain pretty soon. __________________ A n00b Races Hell on Wheels Vintage Scrambles A n00b Races Elsinore Grand Prix For a Cause A n00b Goes Flat Track Racing

10-16-2008, 09:57 PM	#12
foxgguy2001 ^OP Sheputy Deriff Joined: Mar 2008 Location: Riverside, CA Oddometer: 196	crackin the case this weekend...err, my weekend...next wed/thursday.

10-20-2008, 06:17 PM	#13
JeffS77 cheap bastard Joined: Apr 2006 Location: Riverside , CA Oddometer: 3,004	cool man good luck..let me know what happens.. i wont be riding for awhile.. i was racing in ridgecrest on friday night and had a bad highside that destroyed my shoulder basically tore all the legaments that hold my shoulder together. should be in surgery by end of week but looks like a 6-8month recovery __________________ A n00b Races Hell on Wheels Vintage Scrambles A n00b Races Elsinore Grand Prix For a Cause A n00b Goes Flat Track Racing

10-24-2008, 08:46 AM	#14
mcma111 Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2007 Location: San Francisco,Ca. Oddometer: 8,162	Well ??? __________________ Steve in SF BMW's 58 R26 79 R100s 91 R100gs 87 Harley FXRS-SP ~ 06 KTM 625 SMC ~ 72 Honda CB750/915cc ~ 92 XR600/654cc ~ 95 XR650l/675cc ~ 03 CRF450r ~ 05 CRF450x ~ 02 XR650l/675cc ~ 86 YZ490 ~ 93 YZ80 ~ 93 XR650l Project

01-01-2009, 06:40 PM	#15
foxgguy2001 ^OP Sheputy Deriff Joined: Mar 2008 Location: Riverside, CA Oddometer: 196	Turns out there were 2 spacers left over after the rebuild, after some detective work we located, and after a tear down, reinstalled said spacers.... pictures below. (spacers on each side of the right cog) only took me 2 months...

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