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Old 12-12-2012, 08:00 AM   #32311
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You must be some sort of n00b or something 'cause it would gave taken most of us a whole lot more than one to read this whole thread..

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Old 12-12-2012, 06:03 PM   #32312
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So, what's the trick to getting steering bearing races out of the frame? I thought I could just tap them out using a punch (ok, a big screwdriver), but I can't get a purchase on the races. There isn't enough of a "shelf" to tap on.
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:08 PM   #32313
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So, what's the trick to getting steering bearing races out of the frame? I thought I could just tap them out using a punch (ok, a big screwdriver), but I can't get a purchase on the races. There isn't enough of a "shelf" to tap on.

Look for a half moon cut out in the head stock.
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:10 PM   #32314
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http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/...g-Race-Remover

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Old 12-12-2012, 06:47 PM   #32315
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Thanks guys

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Look for a half moon cut out in the head stock.
There doesn't appear to be any on this bike.

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I might have to do that. A little bending and filing on the screwdriver for a better angle of attack and I got the top race out. Not so fortunate with the bottom. The problem is, if I order that tool, I'm going to want to order wheel bearings and spacers, swingarm bearings, new seat cover... this gets expensive!

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Old 12-12-2012, 06:56 PM   #32316
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There doesn't appear to be any on this bike.



I might have to do that. A little bending and filing on the screwdriver for a better angle of attack and I got the top race out. Not so fortunate with the bottom. The problem is, if I order that tool, I'm going to want to order wheel bearings and spacers, swingarm bearings, new seat cover... this gets expensive!

So-k, bearings should never be if'y.

Bent bars, bent rim, maybe, but not bearings.

Just me.

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Old 12-12-2012, 07:02 PM   #32317
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So-k, bearings should never be if'y.

Bent bars, bent rim, maybe, but not bearings.

Just me.

The head bearings weren't iffy, they were gone

Tool ordered (along with $80 more worth of parts so I can get free shipping). Yee-ha!

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Old 12-12-2012, 07:29 PM   #32318
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I've seen that thing in action. It was the shit.

I recently had to cut one out with a dremmel. Nothing for a tool to bite on.

Took forever, but I was eventually able to break the race once I had cut deep enough into it.
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:57 PM   #32319
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It's been a good x-mas for the DR650 around here. As a result I have a collection of 10% discount coupons - most of them expiring around the end of the year.

The first 4 people to PM can have them.
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:03 AM   #32320
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I've seen that thing in action. It was the shit.

I recently had to cut one out with a dremmel. Nothing for a tool to bite on.

Took forever, but I was eventually able to break the race once I had cut deep enough into it.
Jeez your scaring me. I am just getting ready to try and pull mine in the next few days. Hope I don't have to cut stuff, that will suck. I saw a video over on the F650 site and it shows a guy putting the new bearings in the freezer, and then heating up the head frame with a heat gun. The old bearings and rings popped out, and the new bearings from the fridge dropped right in. I am hoping for this method to work for me.
http://faq.f650.com/dvd/F650_Maintenance_DVD_3_14.m4v
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:13 AM   #32321
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Jeez your scaring me. I am just getting ready to try and pull mine in the next few days. Hope I don't have to cut stuff, that will suck. I saw a video over on the F650 site and it shows a guy putting the new bearings in the freezer, and then heating up the head frame with a heat gun. The old bearings and rings popped out, and the new bearings from the fridge dropped right in. I am hoping for this method to work for me.
http://faq.f650.com/dvd/F650_Maintenance_DVD_3_14.m4v
I'll have the tool on Tuesday, you're welcome to borrow it after that


In my case there is no space for a punch to get to the head bearing races. I don't think all (most?) bikes are like that. The more I work on this bike, a Honda XR250R, the more I wonder if they designed it to not be serviceable. Sort of a disposable "beginner's bike" or something.
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:43 AM   #32322
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Jeez your scaring me. I am just getting ready to try and pull mine in the next few days. Hope I don't have to cut stuff, that will suck. I saw a video over on the F650 site and it shows a guy putting the new bearings in the freezer, and then heating up the head frame with a heat gun. The old bearings and rings popped out, and the new bearings from the fridge dropped right in. I am hoping for this method to work for me.
http://faq.f650.com/dvd/F650_Maintenance_DVD_3_14.m4v
you should be good with the heat/cold solution
heating the steering stem would have been another method for Cj if he had not ordered the puller
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:45 AM   #32323
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you should be good with the heat/cold solution
heating the steering stem would have been another method for Cj if he had not ordered the puller
I got the race off the steering stem ok, It's the races (cups?) in the head tube. I tried heating the head tube, but no dice.
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:40 PM   #32324
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Read somewhere on the interweb, so it must be true, that some guys will run a bead around the inside of the race with a welder. When they're done they pop right out. Heat. Shrinking. Magic. All of those things playing a part.

Of course, if you don't have the welder...
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Old 12-13-2012, 05:49 PM   #32325
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