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Old 03-23-2013, 09:09 AM   #34216
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That looks like an awesome ride. I have a cheap tablet I picked up a while back for dev programming. I'll see what I can load on it...
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Old 03-23-2013, 11:46 AM   #34217
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Chiming in here on the tablet/netbook/navigation discussion. When we did our big 10 day Canada trip last summer, my computer savvy friend got a couple of us set up on Samsung Tab2 tablets that were loaded with Orux mapping software, and we used Bing satellite images (I agree with whomever said these are way better than Google).

While we also had a Montana and a 60CsX on other bikes, we used the tablets 99% of the time. They are amazing for navigating, very accurate. We just slid them right into the map slot on the top of our small Wolfman tank bags, so you could use them at all times.

We created the entire route for our trip using Bing sat images, just poring over old logging roads and drawing lines. Then we uploaded these routes into Orux (and also into out Garmin units) and spent the next 10 days following the orange line. The best part about the tablet vs just using a Garmin unit was that if we came to areas where we would hit a gate or run into impassible trail, we could just zoom out on the pre-loaded satellite images and search for alternative routes. I honestly can't recommend this highly enough.

We would literally never have found the following places if we had not had immediate access to sat images so that we could search for campsites and trials in real time. None of the trials to these spots would have shown up on any map.

Thanks for that info,....I don't have a tablet but will check out the Orux software sounds interesting
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Old 03-23-2013, 01:18 PM   #34218
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I just looked Google Earth was more up to date and clear than Bing....YMMV

But it is always good to have more than one tool in the box...

Interesting on the streets and trips angle Chris...that is what I use on your suggestion a few years back.
Interesting. Up in the Sugarloaf area, and for most of the stuff we were mapping in Canada, Bing was far superior. It allowed us to find trails that would have been obscured otherwise. Here are is a comparison of images of the Sugarloaf golf course. The first is Google, the second is Bing.



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Old 03-23-2013, 02:37 PM   #34219
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this is 2T's Stikney Hill Rd discussed earlier (I think) on Bing

View Larger Map | View Bird's Eye




this is supposed to be the same place on GoogleMaps.


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seems to me, It depends on what kind of information you are looking for that decides which is more useful... and what area you are in it seems too.

I can't tell if that loads right... If it doesn't try this link.
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=east+...gl=us&t=h&z=16
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Old 03-23-2013, 03:16 PM   #34220
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I find that in some places, GMaps has great resolution and some places less so... I compared it with Bing in a few locations and at least in the few places I checked, Bing was at least as good, and in some places it was quite a bit better. That being said, I'd guess that it has a lot to do with the age of the images and how recently the site has been updated.

Definitely going to check out Orux and some of the other options that have been mentioned. The issue for me, at least is going to be that I don't want to add yet another device to the bike (cell phone, gps, tablet???). I like having it all in one place on the bars (I'll usually just carry a Gazetter or a GPS in my bag as a back-up).
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Old 03-23-2013, 03:18 PM   #34221
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Yeah, that's interesting. The zoomed in definition on those two examples is essentially exactly the same. But up here in the hinterlands of northern Maine, it appears that Google has not elected to give the same zoomed in definition.
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:18 PM   #34222
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here is the link for Orux - http://www.oruxmaps.com/index_en.html
Orux is designed for android devices only as far as I can see.

to find Bing just search for Bing Maps....

no satellite image program covers everywhere in equal clarity. I am finding in so. me areas Bing is far better. You need to check google, bing and nokia (which some programs will display) for which is best
The other big issue is having a program which will download the images and save them for use where there is no cell coverage in remote areas. Oruz will do this for the android devices and SAS Planet will do this for windows based devices. (SAS is the best free program I have found for windows)

another trick I have learned this winter is when in google earth click on the map date in lower left to get the timeline to appear in upper left. Frequently the map which displays by default is not the most uptodate map.
Using the timeline in the upper left will enable you to slide to the right and get the most recent version. Much of Maine is now most current with a August 2011. I just tried my area GE map defaulted to 2007 but with the timeline I got a 7/2012 map to show. I also found some maps images are done with summer tree leaves and hide road conditions. By going back in image date you can find images taken in the fall which show some areas better. I know of a atv bridge over a stream which is completely hidden in the most recent images due to tree cover but is seen by going back to an image taken in the fall.
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:51 PM   #34223
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:31 PM   #34224
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Old 03-23-2013, 06:14 PM   #34225
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No excuses now, Stopped and picked up a ram mount for the PN40...time to get acquainted with it.

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Think we need to convince goodol to hold a Duh-lorme users workshop.

Still trying to get my computer to recognize that it's connected.
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Old 03-23-2013, 06:49 PM   #34227
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Think we need to convince goodol to hold a Duh-lorme users workshop.

Still trying to get my computer to recognize that it's connected.
yea I do not find Delorme nearly as intuitive as Garmin
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Old 03-23-2013, 07:29 PM   #34229
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Thanks BKMLWR, I didn't know about the time line trick.

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