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Old 03-07-2014, 03:42 PM   #40291
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Right click, "save image as"...

You know, for later.

ummmmm.... I'm a wee bit skeeert about what "later" might mean.



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Old 03-07-2014, 05:50 PM   #40292
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Would it be a bad idea to get one of these and a standard car gps?

Arkon Bike or Motorcycle Handlebar Mount with Water-Resistant Holder for 4.3-inch Screen Size Garmin TomTom Magellan GPS by Arkon http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003FMUP0K/..._uKMgtb03FCNAP
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Old 03-07-2014, 06:24 PM   #40293
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Would it be a bad idea to get one of these and a standard car gps?

Arkon Bike or Motorcycle Handlebar Mount with Water-Resistant Holder for 4.3-inch Screen Size Garmin TomTom Magellan GPS by Arkon http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003FMUP0K/..._uKMgtb03FCNAP

my brother had one of these... it is water resistant, NOT waterproof. I have done thousand of ROAD miles with a cheap Nuvi auto gps. When it rains, I pull a clear plastic bag over the Nuvi and keep going. Sooo not the best OR most elegant solution, but cheap, and no harm thus far to the gps. did i mention cheap?
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Old 03-07-2014, 06:46 PM   #40294
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my brother had one of these... it is water resistant, NOT waterproof. I have done thousand of ROAD miles with a cheap Nuvi auto gps. When it rains, I pull a clear plastic bag over the Nuvi and keep going. Sooo not the best OR most elegant solution, but cheap, and no harm thus far to the gps. did i mention cheap?
That might be the way I'm heading. I can't see spending 250+ on a Garmin 78
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Old 03-07-2014, 07:34 PM   #40295
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my brother had one of these... it is water resistant, NOT waterproof. I have done thousand of ROAD miles with a cheap Nuvi auto gps. When it rains, I pull a clear plastic bag over the Nuvi and keep going. Sooo not the best OR most elegant solution, but cheap, and no harm thus far to the gps. did i mention cheap?
notice the word 'ROAD' is emphasized. If you want to do off road riding the typical car gps does not so well.
a gps that can handle tracks does much better for off road work

I bought a nuvi 50LM on sale for $95 and was able to teach the wife how to use it and she does not do well with electronic devices...works nice for pavement as long as I don't set it on "shortest distance" instead of "fastest time"
Shortest distance puts my wife on roads she does not want to drive on....

your android phone would be almost as good as a Nuvi...
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Old 03-08-2014, 02:27 AM   #40296
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your android phone would be almost as good as a Nuvi...
except where the might be no data connection. With a phone, if you have no cell coverage you have no guidence. I know, there are apps for that.
(and I have probably tried 'em, Haven't found one I like enough to keep it around)
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Old 03-08-2014, 03:09 AM   #40297
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First reaction is...
...then you read it...

"...The signature feature on the SR400 is its curious kickstarter. Riders will have to use the kickstarter and a hand-operated decompression lever to get the engine running..."

Combining the 'it's too complicated' with today's gasoline, 'dead in the water' comes immediately to mind.

On the money side, kickstart only machine = $5990 or...

"...Appealing the younger riding demographic, the SR400 pricing is hundreds cheaper than the new small displacement models from Harley-Davidson (starting at $6700)."

My money sez for $710 the consumer is going with the HD badge regardless if it's a new model and not quite as 'cool' as even the 883.



OTOH, if this...



...was sitting on the showroom floor instead, it might gain some steam but the kickstart only thing may still be too big of a hurdle. I mean, you can't even buy a little KTM without the magic button anymore (that's prolly just BS) because the buyers don't want to have to kick it.

What kills me is someone at Yamaha will then make major future market decisions based on this USA market introduction flop and kill anything like it with the magic button for decades to come. /rant

But what the hell do I know? I'm just rambling on over morning coffee.

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Old 03-08-2014, 03:39 AM   #40298
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except where the might be no data connection. With a phone, if you have no cell coverage you have no guidence. I know, there are apps for that.
(and I have probably tried 'em, Haven't found one I like enough to keep it around)
awhile back Pundy posted a RR he and some friends did in Quebec deep woods using android tablets and oruxmaps. the oruxmaps program will download and store sat. images and they were able to load in gpx tracks and operate with no cell signal for a mulit day ride. They were able to find a nice campsite because they could see a lake and little access road that would not have been seen on the usual gps display. They were powered off the bike which is a good feature and kept the tablets in the tankbag map pocket.

The only downside to this setup would be if the bike stopped and you had to walk. the battery life is not going to last too long. I usually carry several sets of batteries for my gps which would allow for several days of walking if needed.

I should dig up Pundy's RR. It is interesting from the gps useage info.
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Old 03-08-2014, 04:22 AM   #40299
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awhile back Pundy posted a RR he and some friends did in Quebec deep woods using android tablets and oruxmaps....

The only downside to this setup would be if the bike stopped and you had to walk. the battery life is not going to last too long. I usually carry several sets of batteries for my gps which would allow for several days of walking if needed.
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I actually have orux maps on my tablet, and on my phone, and to be honest find it very powerful and jam full of features. My biggest grip is BECAUSE of all the features, it lacks ease of use. I am absolutely certain that properly motivated, I could figure out how to make Orux map show me how to get from point A to point B - which is 90% of what I need. I love having it on my tablet because once i create a gpx (for example) I can view it on the tablet, but again, I am vastly under utilizing the app.
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Old 03-08-2014, 04:46 AM   #40300
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I actually have orux maps on my tablet, and on my phone, and to be honest find it very powerful and jam full of features. My biggest grip is BECAUSE of all the features, it lacks ease of use. I am absolutely certain that properly motivated, I could figure out how to make Orux map show me how to get from point A to point B - which is 90% of what I need. I love having it on my tablet because once i create a gpx (for example) I can view it on the tablet, but again, I am vastly under utilizing the app.
are you able to get maps displayed and the gpx track displayed and then drive/ride along and see some sort of marker move along the track like a gps? If so then you are the thread expert and can teach others....I have not been able to justify buying a tablet yet to make a dot move on it just like my gps does.....prolly should look for a used one somewhere..
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are you able to get maps displayed and the gpx track displayed and then drive/ride along and see some sort of marker move along the track like a gps?
ummmm. I Think so... the "dot" moves by it self as YOU move based on the gps. Maps display display likewise. And the .gpx makes the red (or whatever color you tell to be). Just load up the .gpx and the rest should be follow the line. As usual, the devil is in the details. 1) creating the .gpx. 2 "offline maps" and getting the "right ones" on your device.

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so then you are the thread expert and can teach others....
lmao. Ya know Dave, there ARE things that I might classify myself as "able to teach others" at. THIS is not one of them. I am willing to share what I have, but knowledgeable on THIS topic I am not

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I have not been able to justify buying a tablet yet to make a dot move on it just like my gps does.....prolly should look for a used one somewhere..
If you have a smartphone, you have a tablet - except for the big screen of course. I like my tablet for some things, and hate it for others. Android is not a mature operating system! I often prefer to browse Advrider for instance, with my web browser. Images and navigation is better and easier for ME in the browser. But when it comes time to create a message or reply to one of you FF's it is often FAR easier to do it with "tapatalk" because of the way android handles the "edit message screen".

I am sure that there are others closer to you who can offer the same thing, but any time you want to play with my toyz, you are welcome to try them before you buy anything.




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Old 03-08-2014, 05:38 AM   #40302
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"...The signature feature on the SR400 is its curious kickstarter. Riders will have to use the kickstarter and a hand-operated decompression lever to get the engine running..."
With EFI, the kickstarter shouldn't be an issue, but I agree, kick only is probably the death blow. The thing the bugs me the most is the drum brake in the back. Seriously, a drum brake in 2014?
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Old 03-08-2014, 05:49 AM   #40303
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First reaction is...
...then you read it...

"...The signature feature on the SR400 is its curious kickstarter. Riders will have to use the kickstarter and a hand-operated decompression lever to get the engine running..."

Combining the 'it's too complicated' with today's gasoline, 'dead in the water' comes immediately to mind.

On the money side, kickstart only machine = $5990 or...

"...Appealing the younger riding demographic, the SR400 pricing is hundreds cheaper than the new small displacement models from Harley-Davidson (starting at $6700)."

My money sez for $710 the consumer is going with the HD badge regardless if it's a new model and not quite as 'cool' as even the 883.



OTOH, if this...



...was sitting on the showroom floor instead, it might gain some steam but the kickstart only thing may still be too big of a hurdle. I mean, you can't even buy a little KTM without the magic button anymore (that's prolly just BS) because the buyers don't want to have to kick it.

What kills me is someone at Yamaha will then make major future market decisions based on this USA market introduction flop and kill anything like it with the magic button for decades to come. /rant

But what the hell do I know? I'm just rambling on over morning coffee.

Magic button overrated. It's a 400, how hard could it be to start, especially with modern day electronics. I could get a '86 600 going with two kicks. I think the nostalgia thing will do well, very well.

Now if we could get them to do something like this, I WOULD get one.

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Old 03-08-2014, 05:49 AM   #40304
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ummmm. I Think so... the "dot" moves by it self as YOU move based on the gps. Maps display display likewise. And the .gpx makes the red (or whatever color you tell to be). Just load up the .gpx and the rest should be follow the line. As usual, the devil is in the details. 1) creating the .gpx. 2 "offline maps" and getting the "right ones" on your device.



lmao. Ya know Dave, there ARE things that I might classify myself as "able to teach others" at. THIS is not one of them. I am willing to share what I have, but knowledgeable on THIS topic I am not



If you have a smartphone, you have a tablet - except for the big screen of course. I like my tablet for some things, and hate it for others. Android is not a mature operating system! I often prefer to browse Advrider for instance, with my web browser. Images and navigation is better and easier for ME in the browser. But when it comes time to create a message or reply to one of you FF's it is often FAR easier to do it with "tapatalk" because of the way android handles the "edit message screen".

I am sure that there are others closer to you who can offer the same thing, but any time you want to play with my toyz, you are welcome to try them before you buy anything.




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At this point in it's life Android is quite mature, you just need to know which devices to buy. I always use Tapatalk, but I use the older version (2.4.13) because imo it's far better than the new one. As far as the maps go, if you have the storage space then by all means download the maps onto your phone so that if you lose internet access you will still be able to view them.

If you guys need any help choosing android devices just let me know, I've been buying/selling them for a better part of 2 years so I've tried basically all of them. In terms of tablets, the Nexus 7 is definitely the way to go if you want the best bang for your buck. There are two models, the original version (2012) and the more recent 2013 version. If just using it on the bike I would recommend the original one because you can pick them up dirt cheap nowadays.

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Oh and someplace in this pile of parts is an e button and a kicker..

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