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Old 11-18-2013, 05:13 PM   #26956
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650T is for Topo.....comes with 100k topo which is NOT 24k topo...24k is the fine detail. I added the NT maps and the awesome Garmin mounts for the car and the bike.

The 650T just happens to come with a camera. Get the 600 and all of the maps you desire.
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Yeah, that 100K topo is a good money making gimmick. Basically worthless. There is the base unit(600, the one I've been looking at), the one with camera(650) and the one with camera and Topo(650T).
I prefer the topo maps from here

http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/index.php

But looking at the unit Slip just got, Its more like what I used to have with blue tooth and MP3 capability. Hmmm.
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Old 11-18-2013, 05:14 PM   #26957
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Can you upload tracks to it. I like my NUVI 500 but cannot upload tracks without making it a map. I have the 100K topos on the card. No routing but it has all the trails.


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6....... I still have to learn how to use it


bwalsh..........390lm. It will be a while before I can tell you if I like it or not. It should have come with a remote starter for the bike and auto pilot for the price


Dean......maybe Thursday, I will text you


Kevin.........even with the latest in satellite navigation, I dont have your leadership skills. Nice try


Jax.......Hi Jack
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Old 11-18-2013, 05:16 PM   #26958
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If I had MP3,,,I would play Pink Floyd; Comfortably Numb and drive off of a cliff......on Rt 33. If my phone rang in my ear I would drive off a cliff on Rt 250....

I need to concentrate!
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Old 11-18-2013, 05:20 PM   #26959
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PS: Your TOPO maps need to be in book form in a wasserpruf cartridge.
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Old 11-18-2013, 05:57 PM   #26960
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I need to concentrate!
Concentrate on what? What are you talking about?

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PS: Your TOPO maps need to be in book form in a wasserpruf cartridge.
What? You can load them onto a SD or Micro SD card.
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Old 11-18-2013, 05:57 PM   #26961
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I find the TOPO 100k just fine....it gives me just enough info on elev and fire roads. If I want hardcore...I follow paper, compass and the sun. Gazetter and other maps.

In the mid 90's, Davey Coombs organized the Blackwater 200 Dual Sport for a few years from Davis WV. We went up Cabin Mountain on trails and then they were ribboned off to follow another underused path. You could tell they were wagon trails. The two companies closed all of the off road land due to environmental pressure. His explanation for the detour was that the Monongahela Power and Westvaco timber did not own this land....it was "Public land" on the county maps from the 1800's. Public. Mon on one side, Westvaco on the other side of the 'trail' He found them in the courthouse.

Find your own maps and follow them. Electronic maps are only superficial.

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Old 11-18-2013, 06:28 PM   #26962
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I find the TOPO 100k just fine....it gives me just enough info on elev and fire roads. If I want hardcore...I follow paper, compass and the sun. Gazetter and other maps.

In the mid 90's, Davey Coombs organized the Blackwater 200 Dual Sport for a few years from Davis WV. We went up Cabin Mountain on trails and then they were ribboned off to follow another underused path. You could tell they were wagon trails. The two companies closed all of the off road land due to environmental pressure. His explanation for the detour was that the Monongahela Power and Westvaco timber did not own this land....it was "Public land" on the county maps from the 1800's. Public. Mon on one side, Westvaco on the other side of the 'trail' He found them in the courthouse.

Find your own maps and follow them. Electronic maps are only superficial.

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Regarding paper verses electronic maps...

You're preaching to the choir, and to someone who owns more than 150 Quad maps, 8 Gazetteer maps and numerous other maps. Yes I am a recovering map addict!

The only reason I had the ZUMO was because and I had been getting tired of having to stop, open the saddle bag, pull out the map, find where I was on it, and take a look to see which way I wanted to go, put it away and go. Now, 5-10 seconds at a stop sign with the GPS and I am riding again!

Also, it was a demo that was on sale for a ridiculously low price the day I happened by Crutchfield and decided to stop in and "look" at GPS units.


I'm in too deep and can't go back to paper!
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Old 11-18-2013, 06:43 PM   #26963
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There is an online shareware site with finer detail topos than the 100k for download, and some are routable, depending on the state. Haven't really given them a lot of use yet.

Edit: gpsfiledepot.com. One if the guys I hunt with uses them rather than the Garmin 100k- like I said I really haven't tested it yet
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Old 11-18-2013, 08:01 PM   #26964
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Wow, I started a topic going. I dont believe it has topo, but you can create and upload routes on basecamp. It came with North America maps and free lifetime upgrades. The bells and whistles are in the apps, bluetooth, maintenance log tracking, alarm clock, meh. If you buy the right valve stem caps it will tell you your tire pressure. Thats all I know for now. I got it wired up and mounted. I will plug it in to the PC later and play around with it.


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Old 11-19-2013, 07:35 AM   #26965
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I left you a message on your phone.
Which one, the house phone? There were a couple of messages on the house phone that got screwed up ( dam telco company!).

Try again or call my cell. I'm at drs in NoVA right now.
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Old 11-19-2013, 03:43 PM   #26966
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If I had MP3,,,I would play Pink Floyd; Comfortably Numb and drive off of a cliff......on Rt 33. If my phone rang in my ear I would drive off a cliff on Rt 250....

I need to concentrate!
Big time! Riding is it's own experience and demands 100%. It you find me riding and "listening to" music it's because I've given up and am on a suicide mission. Or Alzheimer's has really set in so take my keys. And for me, listening to music is also it's own experience and demands 100%. I guess each is either all or none.

Dean, I would love to ride one morning but I'm in crunch mode to get a roof on.

Stacey, I'd put a safety tether on that instrument, if you haven't already, in case it gets jarred from its mount on rough trails.
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Old 11-19-2013, 04:00 PM   #26967
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Lance, will do when I get a chance


George, thats a damn good idea. It did come with a ram mount, but it kind of snaps onto the back of it instead of wrapping around the front of it like a lot of them do.
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Old 11-19-2013, 04:18 PM   #26968
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Big time! Riding is it's own experience and demands 100%. It you find me riding and "listening to" music it's because I've given up and am on a suicide mission. Or Alzheimer's has really set in so take my keys. And for me, listening to music is also it's own experience and demands 100%. I guess each is either all or none.
I agree 100%. "And that is a Norton" I listen to the music in my head when I ride...I change it up like a DJ... sometimes I listen to the valves of my Airhead, sometimes I listen to the tires. Most of the time.......it is "Eyes of the world".....(Ya, Michhub)
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Old 11-19-2013, 06:20 PM   #26969
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The Montana 600/650 will handle a 64Gb SD card. It may take a bigger one, all I had on hand were 32Gb and 64Gb.

Walter mapped his last trip to Magadan from London with Google Earth and then converted it to a gpx(?) file for his Montana 600.



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Regarding paper verses electronic maps...

You're preaching to the choir, and to someone who owns more than 150 Quad maps, 8 Gazetteer maps and numerous other maps. Yes I am a recovering map addict!

The only reason I had the ZUMO was because and I had been getting tired of having to stop, open the saddle bag, pull out the map, find where I was on it, and take a look to see which way I wanted to go, put it away and go. Now, 5-10 seconds at a stop sign with the GPS and I am riding again!

Also, it was a demo that was on sale for a ridiculously low price the day I happened by Crutchfield and decided to stop in and "look" at GPS units.


I'm in too deep and can't go back to paper!
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Old 11-19-2013, 09:23 PM   #26970
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Just to be clear I'm not really interested in the MP3 player, which as it turns out, the 390lm does not have anyway. It does have a lot of other useful features though.

390lm specs

If anything, I'd be more interested in the Bluetooth for use in my truck with my phone.

As far owning a GPS unit verses maps...I use mine all the time for the speedometer feature, trip odometer, fuel minder(on the ZUMO), etc. Haven't looked at the speedometer on the XR in four years!

I've been going to a lot of places I'm not too familiar with so plugging in an address and hitting "go" is just soooo nice.



Mike, I remember Colebatch mentioning he had all that on his card. He is who got me looking at the Montana in the first place. I'm hoping to see Black Friday and or Cyber Monday sales include GPS units.
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